Gay Marriage

[Akisu]

Um, I was just told that it was specifically between a man and a woman, I never saw it for myself and I was told by my Uncle who's a Rabbi so I didn't argue 0.o

[hsb39]

Originally Posted by Akisu

Um, I was just told that it was specifically between a man and a woman, I never saw it for myself and I was told by my Uncle who's a Rabbi so I didn't argue 0.o

Many people say it, but it is actually arguable. And if your uncle is a Rabbi he probably would have been refering to verses in the OT, if you want to get me started on that you can, but I warn you there I have a lot to say.

[Akisu]

Considering I'm in favor of gay marriage, I don't really care (no offense) exactly what the bible states because its irrelevant. Religious views aren't supposed to be involved in the passing of laws. Its absurd Prop 8 got passed in my home state (if you don't know what it is its a Proposition banning gay marriage) and I'm ashamed to live here. I wish people could get over their homophobia and stop using religion as an excuse. Its disappointing how judgmental human beings can be sometimes.

[fejknick]

Originally Posted by hsb39

Many people say it, but it is actually arguable. And if your uncle is a Rabbi he probably would have been refering to verses in the OT, if you want to get me started on that you can, but I warn you there I have a lot to say.

Since i like the one you're arguing with and Im for gay-marriage i took the time to open a bible.

Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination

[Akisu]

BUT who are we to judge what is mankind and what is womankind? o:
If a gay man refers to himself as a woman, than hes a woman. Thats what I believe at least.
Sure his genitalia may indicate otherwise but its not our place to classify people like that.

[hsb39]

Originally Posted by Akisu

Considering I'm in favor of gay marriage, I don't really care (no offense) exactly what the bible states because its irrelevant. Religious views aren't supposed to be involved in the passing of laws. Its absurd Prop 8 got passed in my home state (if you don't know what it is its a Proposition banning gay marriage) and I'm ashamed to live here. I wish people could get over their homophobia and stop using religion as an excuse. Its disappointing how judgmental human beings can be sometimes.

I certainly agree with you there.

Ah.. at Leviticus 18: 22:

1. It makes no reference to marriage.
2. Leviticus 21: 16-21, it talks about those evil people (you know, everyone with glasses, I just sensed they were plotting against us!).

[fejknick]

Originally Posted by hsb39

I certainly agree with you there.

Ah.. at Leviticus 18: 22:

1. It makes no reference to marriage.
2. Leviticus 21: 16-21, it talks about those evil people (you know, everyone with glasses, I just sensed they were plotting against us!).

That shit was written 2000 years ago. The ones that follow it are in my opinion kinda stupid. If there is a god and a heaven and hell, then the first thing I'm going to do when i get there is to fuck god up for letting idiots rule the world and children starve to death.
After that i would gladly spend eternity in hell with all the great legends.

[hsb39]

Originally Posted by fejknick

That shit was written 2000 years ago. The ones that follow it are in my opinion kinda stupid. If there is a god and a heaven and hell, then the first thing I'm going to do when i get there is to fuck god up for letting idiots rule the world and children starve to death.
After that i would gladly spend eternity in hell with all the great legends.

There are points in the Bible that cut down those points, but I'll leave that to the people who actually follow the religion.

As for hell, there a whole heap of people that I would like to meet that should be there right about now.

[fejknick]

Originally Posted by hsb39

There are points in the Bible that cut down those points, but I'll leave that to the people who actually follow the religion.

As for hell, there a whole heap of people that I would like to meet that should be there right about now.

The bibles answer to anything that it cant explain: its the devils work. Or its god, testing our fate. Id say fuck you god and suck this thing between my legs you gave me.
I have read the entire bible, new and old. Thats why i know its a bunch of bullshit. I don't talk about things if i don't know what I'm talking about.

If you have read the bible then you would know that its a bunch of bullshit. And an other point is: last sunday ken drank 7 beers. In 4 weeks he has jumped from that to 16 beers. Now you think about the fact that the bible was written 60 years after jesus so called crucifixion.

And I'm not against you hsb39, you're a good guy. ^^
This is just a subject that makes me so damn angry. How people can believe anything that a person in power tells them. And I'm not saying i don't believe in a god. I just don't believe in a god that the bible describes. I believe in spirituality and unity. And that you create the future yourself. But that mixed with physics and logical thinking.

Ohh, and why does the pope have his own city and inf. money while there are children starving to death in this world? If he was the number one in christianity/bible-people, wouldn't he give that money to those children? He would live in a hut if he had to. And 2000 years ago the crux was a symbol of torture, today its a religious symbol.

[atomsk]

Originally Posted by Zaraki

i'm not trying to push my religion on anyone i'm against that. i love it how ppl take things out of content of what i've said. i'm only giving my opinion. i also love it how people get so upset about someone else's when the author of the thread said what do you think about it and someone says something that has a different opinion from the others and gets upset about it.

thats nice buuuuut i wasnt reffering to you or anyone in general. it seems everyone against gay marrige is a whiney little christian