Why are swords "better" than guns?

[Silverleon]

Swords are better because of me

[SteyrAUG]

Originally Posted by a2ng0d

however to use the gun as a blunt object, you'd have to put it into position (we're talking about back in the day rifles). the stock could be used to own someone, but only if you position it so that the gun is raised above your head and the stock smashes downward. you won't do much damage otherwise, as the barrel is weak. this is where the gun becomes a heavy, clumsy close combat weapon. and you cannot miss, because you only have one chance to swing at (and hit) your enemy. at close combat, the sword would over power the gun with its graceful movement that allows multiple swings and maneuvers. and, the sword can be used to parry, where the gun can only used defensively to block blows (in which you must use movement to get into the weapon into a defensive position thus wasting time). in this case, i would much rather use a sword in a close combat situation (on the battlefield of course).

and one more point: the bayonet. it turns the firearm into a spear basically. however, the sword > the spear, especially a hollow one, for the sword has more maneuverability than spears do.

a sword can chop, sweep, slash, and thrust.

a spear can thrust, and sweep.

a gun fixed with a bayonet has no reach, therefore it cannot sweep, and so it is limited only to thrust action.

despite this argument, i still think guns are the overall better weapons, as long as they are loaded.

A gun with a bayonet has no reach? Please explain how there is no reach to a 3-4 foot rifle with a blade on the end? A combat knife in hand has no reach. As for swords > spears I call bs there too. As spearmen and swordsmen alike will know there is more to mele than just swinging a spear or sword. If you can successfully deflect the sword with a spear (or rifle) you can use the opponents motion against them to knock them off balance which can be advantageous. The spear isn't so helpless against swords. While the barrel can me ruined it can also be replaced.

Originally Posted by Shigami

So when you're in a fight you tell to your opponent to carefully aim at your sword's sharp edge?
And just for your information..' Guns ' can be any type firearm.YOU mean that a sword can cut through a pistol's bullet? Technically thats correct,IF they are placed in the right spot.


This type of bullet,cuts through your sword,kills you - your dog,and your whole freaking family.


Here's a gun vs sword duel.*Fake obviously *

YouTube - Indiana Jones : Sword vs. Gun

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Swords are nothing but show-off nowadays,guns have replaced them,and lazers will some day replace guns.That's technology for you.

That pretty much just supports my statement about cutting through bullets with a sword.

Originally Posted by Holly-Sama

Guns are definitely more appropriate for our time, but I have always been fascinated with sword fighting.

By all means an outdated weapon can still be an interesting one. I don't know many people who would want to go into combat with a ball and cap gun, but they're still fun to use. A scimitar is a sword I like.

Originally Posted by contrast

What I really mean and this is for the majority here. the fact remains world wide for every day guns have become an necessity, like food. people will continue their blood shed as long as guns or weapons exist. Check out the narrative film with Kevin Cosner called Lord of War. All the truth about guns and weapons are there. It states a lot of relevant truths about guns and our need for weapons. I said If that if anyone holds a weapon that they are are not a cowardly, otherwise if we were cowards for holding a weapon then every one on earth is a coward for having a weapon.

-"Братья в рукоятках" (Brothers in Arms) contrast

I didn't especially care for Lord of War. For a movie about an illegal arms dealer it was lacking action.

Originally Posted by analogZero

I saw that movie, Lord of War, and it definitely carried well how people perceive that the person with the most guns wins. Kinda like the beginning of iron man, where they kidnap tony to build his super missile because the outcome of war is based on who has the most advanced weaponry. The amount spent on weapons production is ridiculous to say the least. retarded even. look into how much the US alone spends on weapons and you'll have a small slice of the cake that makes up how stupid people are to think weapons are the answer. Granted it's the reason we survived as a species, if our monkey forefathers hadn't picked up sticks to scare off predators, we'd be s.o.l. in the living department.
Anyway, swords also hold such appreciation for the artistic value they hold. craftsmanship and use are both held in high regard for this reason. guns, well they're made in a factory...

It's only guns today because guns are the weapon of choice. Back in the feudal age the strongest lord was the one with the most warriors and the strongest.

[contrast]

Originally Posted by Holly-Sama

Perhaps your facts are your own opinions, yes? And I find it difficult to understand anything that you are trying to say because of your grammar.

Quote of quote of quote and so on, seash- Give me a break here. I suck at typing not grammer or spelling. I only meant for you too see the valid point of the truth on weapons. And I used a Film that I knew of- It wasn't supposed to be a thrill ride action film like XXX or something. I learned a lot by re-watching the film. so it was a good example to use. Are you going to accuse me for just living? I think not. The Facts are Facts not someone's own opinion. there is no changing the facts here, you can't deny it. Swords are respected as an art from and doesn't necessarily make it better than anything. Guns are mass produced but some swords are now done the same way and the the AK Klosh-ni-kove was made by hand so not all weapons were machine made through mass production. As you see I tell it like it is, not how it isn't. I don't promote the use of violence and its my choice, you can say that is an opinion- violence only leads to violence and blood-shed. So say what you will, I just don't care anymore. Also the German Luger was and still is hand made, it is a custom made weapon. :P

[SteyrAUG]

Originally Posted by contrast

Also the German Luger was and still is hand made, it is a custom made weapon. :P

The luger is one of my favorite handguns. My grandpa has a .22 replica that he will give to me when I turn 21. I don't think I would want a regular luger as a sidearm though. 9mm parabellum ammunition doesn't hit as hard as I would like, and it had the nasty flaw of jamming when in the presence of dirt. It's still a nice weapon to have.

[Silverleon]

Actually i know something that's better than both, BEHOLD!!

A gunblade, the best weapon there is!

[a2ng0d]

@Steyr: 3-4 feet is not a lot compared to a sword/spear, and the spear is definitely a disadvantage against the sword (the sword was invented to defeat the spear). although yes, the bayonetted rifle still rapes the combat knife. but we are not comparing combat knives, we are comparing guns. and while barrels can be replaced, they cannot be replaced in the heat of battle.

[Holly-Sama]

Originally Posted by contrast

Quote of quote of quote and so on, seash- Give me a break here. I suck at typing not grammer or spelling. I only meant for you too see the valid point of the truth on weapons. And I used a Film that I knew of- It wasn't supposed to be a thrill ride action film like XXX or something. I learned a lot by re-watching the film. so it was a good example to use. Are you going to accuse me for just living? I think not. The Facts are Facts not someone's own opinion. there is no changing the facts here, you can't deny it. Swords are respected as an art from and doesn't necessarily make it better than anything. Guns are mass produced but some swords are now done the same way and the the AK Klosh-ni-kove was made by hand so not all weapons were machine made through mass production. As you see I tell it like it is, not how it isn't. I don't promote the use of violence and its my choice, you can say that is an opinion- violence only leads to violence and blood-shed. So say what you will, I just don't care anymore. Also the German Luger was and still is hand made, it is a custom made weapon. :P

I quote because I like to let whoever I am trying to talk to know that I am talking to them. And it is your opinion. You weren't stating facts, but your opinions based on this movie. I am glad you learned something from the film. That's wonderful, but I'm sure everyone has their own views on this matter. That's why this is in a debating forum. And no, I am not accusing you for just living. You sound like the whole world is out to get you just because someone may believe differently. And if you didn't care, this conversation would have never happened.

[SteyrAUG]

Originally Posted by Silverleon

Actually i know something that's better than both, BEHOLD!!

A gunblade, the best weapon there is!

Please refer to my statement on bayonets and gunblades.

Originally Posted by a2ng0d

@Steyr: 3-4 feet is not a lot compared to a sword/spear, and the spear is definitely a disadvantage against the sword (the sword was invented to defeat the spear). although yes, the bayonetted rifle still rapes the combat knife. but we are not comparing combat knives, we are comparing guns. and while barrels can be replaced, they cannot be replaced in the heat of battle.

Acknowledged, but my point is that while parts of a gun may be destroyed it's worth damaging/ruining the part if it wins the day since the parts are replaceable while your head is not. As for a rifle not being as long as a spear the point is that it has a better chance in mele combat than many people think.

[analogZero]

Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

Please refer to my statement on bayonets and gunblades.

Acknowledged, but my point is that while parts of a gun may be destroyed it's worth damaging/ruining the part if it wins the day since the parts are replaceable while your head is not. As for a rifle not being as long as a spear the point is that it has a better chance in mele combat than many people think.

some of those gunblades actually fire though. they're not a video game simulation. those things are a double whammy.

Second note, you're not likely to win the day with damaged and malfunctioning weaponry. A jammed gun, or yes, quite worse, a destroyed barrel is going to leave you in an open position. there's no time outs and you risking your head for the hopes that your damaged gun might still fire an accurate shot is in bad practice.

[SteyrAUG]

Originally Posted by analogZero

some of those gunblades actually fire though. they're not a video game simulation. those things are a double whammy.

Second note, you're not likely to win the day with damaged and malfunctioning weaponry. A jammed gun, or yes, quite worse, a destroyed barrel is going to leave you in an open position. there's no time outs and you risking your head for the hopes that your damaged gun might still fire an accurate shot is in bad practice.

My response in the first post for gunblades that actually shoot was that we pretty much call them guns with bayonets.

A person who has a damaged/destroyed barrel still has a better chance at survival than the guy who gets attacked by a swordman during reload and simply lets the swordsman cut his head off. If the barrel is bent I won't trust the gun enough to fire it, but would continue to use it as a mele weapon until I either die or can get away and replace it. If I carry a rifle into combat you can be sure I also carry a sidearm just in case. Anyway with a malfunctioning firearm you're still only helpless if you let yourself be helpless. Think about it. The samurai had two swords. The katana and the smaller wakazashi. If the blade of the katana broke off at the handle would that swordsman just sit there and let another swordsman decapitate them or would they draw their wakazashi and keep fighting? The backup is used even today. As well as being issued a rifle many soldiers are issued with a handgun like a baretta 92f or a colt 1911. The rifle malfunctions then you have the sidearm to keep fighting.