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Old 10-21-2008   #211
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I would've said law enforcement is more so trained in martial arts due to their requirement to restrain and subdue wrong doers. They get in trouble when applying "excessive force" as they call it. shooting aggressive, doped up junkies with colourful language often doesn't roll over too well.
And I see close quarters combat as being within foot to sternum range. I don't much know what specific radii distance from you to your target qualifies as close quarters so I'll just leave that topic right there...
I guess the cop part makes sense as for close quarters being that close then a gun probably wouldn't be as effective, especially a long gun like a rifle or shotgun. Most militant combat isn't like that these days though.
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I'd have to say that both swords and guns have their positives and negatives. Almost all of you have valid points... (I say 'almost' because there are certain posts that are full of ignorance and opinionated bias; a lact of fact makes these useless and, if put to my decision, would be deleted. It's a good thing that our wonderful country allows for a "Freedom of Speech." In other words, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK. Also, DO NOT SAY THAT GUNS OR SWORDS ARE FOR PANSYS UNTIL YOU HAVE ACTUALLY WIELDED ONE.)
Anyway, I'm not entirely sure if one can "win" this argument. Therefore, I will offer my opinion, and am willing to debate it with anyone. I just ask that you put my ideas to mind.

-I, for one, prefer guns, but that is merely because I am more skilled with one. I enjoy swords immensely, and wish that I was competent with one, but I am not.

-In today's world, swords have been all but ousted of their time-honored position as the "main" weapon. That position has been handed over to the gun.

-Both can be incredibly lethal, depending on the circumstances, including:
=Who is using it?
=Who are they using it against?
=Why are they using it?
=Where are they using it?
=When are they using it? (Year, not time of day)

-To me, swords have become a symbol of honor and chivalry. They are not, nor will they ever be, outdated, at least to me. However, the gun represents in my mind the current and future ages. If one should bring a sword to the average battlefield of today's world, they would be dead quickly, no matter their skill level. However, this, too, can be debated, which is why I included the above criteria for determining effectiveness.

-Setting aside skill level, I think that there is one main problem with each: a sword's range, and a limited number of bullets.

I could continue, but I'm tired, and am more interested in seeing what responses I might receive. If you wish to debate with me personally on a specific issue or whatever, just PM me- more that likely, if you post here, I won't see it.


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You never argued who'd win in an enclosed environment. You did, however, mention "where", in your criteria, but that doesn't specify anything.
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Swords are the coolest and take the most skill to use. I tested this and it was true. I went hunting for the first time, without any training and killed a 4 point with one shot.
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Swords are the coolest and take the most skill to use. I tested this and it was true. I went hunting for the first time, without any training and killed a 4 point with one shot.
I was hoping to see this thread revived... but by an opinion that came from someone who actually mattered.

What a shame.
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Swords look better than guns, also you don't need to reload
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Just to let you know, Gunblades are not ment to shoot. They create an semi-explosion on impact which does more damage. that is why in the game, Squill had a 260% chance to hit the enermy. He never misses.
lol so you could stab them and if still alive you pull the trigger and *KA-SPLOOSH* thats pretty.. i dunno
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I'm still pretty much a gun fan... guns are THE BEST even though short ranged weapons like knives, broken bottles, cutlasses and rocks are used on more occasions than BOTH the sword and the gun...
N.B> rocks double as ranged weapons...
broken bottles triple as ranged weapons AND important magical ingredients (think OBEAH) >.>
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Takes a look at Indiana Jones and lols BTW swords just happen to look cool that is why they are on anime still as if somone was to spend as much time as a swordsman spends learning hi craft then gunman = win
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As hol horse would say the gun is mightier than the sword in knights chess.
unless your away from the sword its not as good
but gun is better in most things.
i prefer the sword though more original.
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i like plain ol combat skill ..martial arts ..."pam!!!!" wat u say ... TKO.. death by mere hands ..now thats ...skill
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