Why are swords "better" than guns?

[SteyrAUG]

Originally Posted by Dragon_Of_

it may ahve been an exaggeration on miles, but still there is no honor or dignity in shooting someone when you're not even in the same area as said person

and with the new tech they're working on for the navy (a rail gun that shoots nearly mach 8) it's little-to-no challlenge anymore.

YouTube - Demonstration of the Navy Electromagnetic Rail Gun prototype

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and with the aa-12 it's not even fair, either:

YouTube - AA-12. World's deadliest shotgun!

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you're thinking of killed in a conventional way; i'm thinking unfair and unconventional: if you can render your opponent incompassiated (such as a kick in the crumple zone [aka: below the belt] you can crumble up the piece of paper and force it down the throat, thus choaking them to death. good luck getting that out when there's no one there to help. not even sure if the heimlick (sp?) would work to get it out, it's still hasn't been field tested



watch the documentary bowling for columbine by micheal moore.. he gives the stats for all (or at least most of) the major cuntries at some point in the documentary. it's actually a good documentary (about gun violence in the us) and IMO why we should have more gun control.... you see with swords it takes either no honor (sneaking up from behind) or skill to kill someone.... and if it (guns) was soooooo difficult to do then gangbangers wouldn't be doing it every day and the middle east wouldn't be able to use children to do it. compared to a sword it's not just point and squeeze.

1. Please refer to the first post on my views on "honor" in combat as well as the "no skill" arguments. These rail guns are far from being fielded by the military let alone being available to civilians..

2. I guess that makes sense, but too much effort for my liking. I'd rather stomp their neck fucking up the spinal cord. Even if they survive they will not be a threat anymore.

3. I got sources already. We're past that. As for gun control and the "evil" guns killing people that has been covered. Please read the posts regarding drunk driving for more of my views. If you wish to debate gun control please make a separate thread.

[Dragon_Of_]

Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

1. Please refer to the first post on my views on "honor" in combat as well as the "no skill" arguments. These rail guns are far from being fielded by the military let alone being available to civilians..

2. I guess that makes sense, but too much effort for my liking. I'd rather stomp their neck fucking up the spinal cord. Even if they survive they will not be a threat anymore.

3. I got sources already. We're past that. As for gun control and the "evil" guns killing people that has been covered. Please read the posts regarding drunk driving for more of my views. If you wish to debate gun control please make a separate thread.

i actually think they should ban alcohol before we get gun control, alcohol is responcible for too many deaths, imo.. if you wana have a couple beers that's fine (if you're 21 or over) but to get to the point of being drunk is stupid, imo. i fear for people's lives if i lose all self control like most drunks do.

ANYWAY;

a gun is one of the most useless pieces of tech. to me, only because it's ONLY purpis is to kill and injure life, it's just sooooo primitive, imo. it's not like bullet proof vests/dragon skin:

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that is what we need to concentrate on: keeping our people alive, not killing the enemy, we're already pretty effecient at that.

[Russkie]

Originally Posted by Dragon_Of_

i actually think they should ban alcohol before we get gun control, alcohol is responcible for too many deaths, imo.. if you wana have a couple beers that's fine (if you're 21 or over) but to get to the point of being drunk is stupid, imo. i fear for people's lives if i lose all self control like most drunks do.

ANYWAY;

a gun is one of the most useless pieces of tech. to me, only because it's ONLY purpis is to kill and injure life, it's just sooooo primitive, imo. it's not like bullet proof vests/dragon skin:

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that is what we need to concentrate on: keeping our people alive, not killing the enemy, we're already pretty effecient at that.

And what if the only way to protect "our people" can only be achieved by killing the "enemy"? There are entire countries who think the exact opposite of what you're saying, and will stop at nothing to get their hands on some really devastating toys.

The fact that not everyone thinks the way you do, is what makes having weapons so important. If we lay down our arms today, whats to stop another country placing their flag on our soil? Are you going to ask them to go away nicely?

[SteyrAUG]

Originally Posted by Dragon_Of_

i actually think they should ban alcohol before we get gun control, alcohol is responcible for too many deaths, imo.. if you wana have a couple beers that's fine (if you're 21 or over) but to get to the point of being drunk is stupid, imo. i fear for people's lives if i lose all self control like most drunks do.

ANYWAY;

a gun is one of the most useless pieces of tech. to me, only because it's ONLY purpis is to kill and injure life, it's just sooooo primitive, imo. it's not like bullet proof vests/dragon skin:

YouTube - Future weapons: Dragon Skin (amazing body armour!)

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that is what we need to concentrate on: keeping our people alive, not killing the enemy, we're already pretty effecient at that.

1. America tried banning alcohol. It was called prohibition. It failed because the ban created a bigger demand so those who could make the stuff themselves could make a profit off of it.

The purpose a gun serves today is the same purpose swords served back in the day.

[Neoliger]

I agree with the first post. But get rid of guns, swords show real skill, right know we just kill. Plus swords can be more unique.

[SteyrAUG]

Originally Posted by Neoliger

I agree with the first post. But get rid of guns, swords show real skill, right know we just kill. Plus swords can be more unique.

Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't. Warfare in general is about defeating the enemy rather than how skilled your soldiers are trained in mele combat. The only reason we still use combat knives, sidearms, and hand to hand combat is just in case of Murphy's law and the gun fails us. The superior soldier is desirable only as a means of being more likely to defeat the enemy. Victory is always the overall objective.

Besides, if America threw away all the guns do you really think that China let alone the rest of the world would do the same? There is a reason we stopped using the trebuchet and starter using howitzers. :P

[Dragon_Of_]

Originally Posted by Russkie

And what if the only way to protect "our people" can only be achieved by killing the "enemy"? There are entire countries who think the exact opposite of what you're saying, and will stop at nothing to get their hands on some really devastating toys.

The fact that not everyone thinks the way you do, is what makes having weapons so important. If we lay down our arms today, whats to stop another country placing their flag on our soil? Are you going to ask them to go away nicely?

who says laying down all weapons is what i'm saying? i'm saying we should be more careful about who gets said weapons..... and there should deffinitly be more gun control, and a total ban on asslaut weapons for average joe.

1. America tried banning alcohol. It was called prohibition. It failed because the ban created a bigger demand so those who could make the stuff themselves could make a profit off of it.

that is why you mak it a trip to a place like guantanamo (sp?) for some good old fashioned torture. and then let 'em go after like a month (gotta have people to spread how bad the place is after all)

i'm just soooo sick of irresproncible people and the way MOST people act when drinking that i don't believe they should be allowed to have it.

i mean, my hobby is somewhat-illegal because it kills an average of 7 people a year, and causesover 11,000 fires a year (mostly human error, too) yet deep friers aren't ilegal (they cause over 11 thousand fire around thanksgiving alone according to a stat i saw on a news program) those stupid things weren't meant to deep fry TURKIES, morons... yet if we can ban fireworks for people's mistakes, i think we shoul ban the other dangerous things that aren't really a necessity to life (alcohol being one of them, ciggerettes being another)if suicide is a crime, and kavorkian (sp?) went on trial for helping people die, then so should the tabacco companies, imo) as alls they're doing is CHARGING you a crap load of money to get sick and die. hell, i can kill myself a lot quicker and for FREE. why should i (or anyone else)pay them?

[moffetto]

well in real life i would say a gun is way better, but in the world of anime the sword is the obvious favorite, Ex: Kenshin beats gatling gun, Vash deflects bullets by tossing rocks, in many anime the bullet is simply cut in two

[terminator]

personally i believe that guns are better than swords and my favourite one of them all is the shotgun one out of it and your done for

[SteyrAUG]

Originally Posted by terminator

personally i believe that guns are better than swords and my favourite one of them all is the shotgun one out of it and your done for

Vice president Dick Cheny shot his friend in the face with a shotgun. The thing with shotguns is that the distance and type of projectile have a big impact on the damage inflicted.