..:::[ Wh♠t is it Considered ChƏat!ng? ]:::..

[spirit]

This thread is in reference to my first thread regarding Cheating & Cheaters.
After submitting my other thread... I've observed your reactions and comments, and noticed that some of you were asking me questions like "well, it depends on what do you mean by cheating."
Nevertheless, it is up to you and your own belief what do you consider to be cheating and what not. I would like to spend this thread strictly on discussing cheating in relationships. Personally, I feel cheating isn't one of those evident matters that are always unequivocally explainable. Each of us is developing, through out the years and different experiences, an individual "book of rules;" in other words "a moral code" of our own values, beliefs, personal judgment of what is good and evil. Therefore, something considered as an act of cheating might differ in everyone's po!nt of v!ew. When it comes to couples and relationships, there are also some disagreements: when does one cross the line?
What does it mean to cheat on your girlfriend or boyfriend (parter)?
Can we legibly distinguish those barriers? I assume, most of you would say that any sexual relations with someone other than your lover would be considered as cheating, right? If anyone has a different belief then I would be glad if they care to share it with us. How many of you believe that there are things, other than having sex, considered cheating? What if your gf/bf had a lunch with someone else? Or went for a walk? (et cetera)
Moreover, is hugging or kissing other that your partner considered to be cheating? What if someone has kissed other person in a "spur-of-the-moment?" Or what if they've done it under a drug's or alcohol influence?
How about emotions? What if you are in a mutual loving relationship but you have also some feeling towards someone else (but at the same time, you have never "done" anything with the other person)?
Cheating is when your partner doesn't know that you are cheating. But what if your partner knows that you are in love with someone else - because you told them - is that still considered as cheating?
And one of the things that bothers me the most. The internet. What about having conversations with people other than your partner via the internet? Where is the line? Is it OK to have friends online? Is having an innocent flirtation considered to be cheating? or maybe something called.... "cyber-sex?"
And lastly. I have noticed that some guys are fine with their girlfriends having an intimate relationship with other female(s). They are not bothered by it, however excited. What's up with that?

Dependently, on who you are some people tend to cheat continuously without having any regrets. It might happen to anyone. Either one can become a cheater or the victim. If anyone had ever cheated on you - would you ponder over eventual forgiveness?? I wonder how many of you would be strong enough to forgive and decide to stay together.

Ok. Now, I am letting you share your opinions. Surpr!se me. xD

~ sp!r!t

[Dolly]

Well, I speak at a disadvantage because of my age, so I can't say I've dealt with a few of the "Cheating" situations.

Before I continue...Yes, I'm aware couples my age have been known to drink and regularly have sex, but it isn't something I'd bother with, so I'll go ahead and exempt those from the opinion.

In the unnoticeable way, I feel that cheating begins when someone's feeling for their boyfriend/girlfriend wife/husband etc. begins to stray to other interests. Of course, mind reading is impossible (Please don't argue with me on that now) and even the "cheater" can't really know. It's called confliction for a reason.

Call me a stickler in a relationship because of it, but I take the sort of thing quite seriously.

Now, as far as me thinking its gotten to the point of "cheating" is difficult for me to note. I'd like to say I'm careful with dating so a breakup is rarely about cheating. But all of this aside, I'm actually pretty lenient.

If I saw my girlfriend having lunch with another guy, I wouldn't really worry about it. Hell, in my family, it's pretty normal for people to kiss each other (cheek-cheek), so the thing never really bothered me either outside my family, I just think of it as a more expressive hug.

When do I think it's cheating? Well, I suppose I haven't gotten to cheating yet. If she tells me she's with another guy now, I just call it a break-up.

[Kenshy]

Originally Posted by spirit

This thread is in reference to my first thread regarding Cheating & Cheaters.
After submitting my other thread... I've observed your reactions and comments, and noticed that some of you were asking me questions like "well, it depends on what do you mean by cheating."
Nevertheless, it is up to you and your own belief what do you consider to be cheating and what not. I would like to spend this thread strictly on discussing cheating in relationships. Personally, I feel cheating isn't one of those evident matters that are always unequivocally explainable. Each of us is developing, through out the years and different experiences, an individual "book of rules;" in other words "a moral code" of our own values, beliefs, personal judgment of what is good and evil. Therefore, something considered as an act of cheating might differ in everyone's po!nt of v!ew. When it comes to couples and relationships, there are also some disagreements: when does one cross the line?
What does it mean to cheat on your girlfriend or boyfriend (parter)?
Can we legibly distinguish those barriers? I assume, most of you would say that any sexual relations with someone other than your lover would be considered as cheating, right? If anyone has a different belief then I would be glad if they care to share it with us. How many of you believe that there are things, other than having sex, considered cheating? What if your gf/bf had a lunch with someone else? Or went for a walk? (et cetera)
Moreover, is hugging or kissing other that your partner considered to be cheating? What if someone has kissed other person in a "spur-of-the-moment?" Or what if they've done it under a drug's or alcohol influence?
How about emotions? What if you are in a mutual loving relationship but you have also some feeling towards someone else (but at the same time, you have never "done" anything with the other person)?
Cheating is when your partner doesn't know that you are cheating. But what if your partner knows that you are in love with someone else - because you told them - is that still considered as cheating?
And one of the things that bothers me the most. The internet. What about having conversations with people other than your partner via the internet? Where is the line? Is it OK to have friends online? Is having an innocent flirtation considered to be cheating? or maybe something called.... "cyber-sex?"
And lastly. I have noticed that some guys are fine with their girlfriends having an intimate relationship with other female(s). They are not bothered by it, however excited. What's up with that?

Dependently, on who you are some people tend to cheat continuously without having any regrets. It might happen to anyone. Either one can become a cheater or the victim. If anyone had ever cheated on you - would you ponder over eventual forgiveness?? I wonder how many of you would be strong enough to forgive and decide to stay together.

Ok. Now, I am letting you share your opinions. Surpr!se me. xD

~ sp!r!t

Redundancy.

If you have a relationship and you won't let your partner see, engage in physical acts of friendship, or talk to other people, then that relationship is doomed. From what I know, all relationships work because of trust, it's the primary foundation of love, if you will. But that's from what I know, and I'm sure you kids have different interpretations of 'cheating', and 'relationships'.

Closing note: fail at l337 speak.

[AyumiBee]

I would consider even a kiss cheating, but to hung out with male friends is not cheating. And openly flirting with others is cheating in my opinion too.

[spirit]

Originally Posted by Kenshy

Redundancy.

If you have a relationship and you won't let your partner see, engage in physical acts of friendship, or talk to other people, then that relationship is doomed. From what I know, all relationships work because of trust, it's the primary foundation of love, if you will. But that's from what I know, and I'm sure you kids have different interpretations of 'cheating', and 'relationships'.

Closing note: fail at l337 speak.

* Why do you always have to pick on people even if you do not have any arguments? Instead of focusing on merit of the case you prefer to pay attention to inessential nuances.

** I have no problem with someone teaching me proper English grammar and punctuation but before you decide to correct anyone, please start from yourself.. since you blunder, too.
*** For your information, it is a commonly used phraseological collocation.

[Koopaking]

It's up for the people in the couple to decide what they consider as cheating.

[spirit]

Originally Posted by Koopaking

It's up for the people in the couple to decide what they consider as cheating.

Yes, of course... but I want your opinion to be placed here. Who cares of some unknown couples? What is it to you, K.?

[Kenshy]

Originally Posted by spirit

* Why do you always have to pick on people even if you do not have any arguments? Instead of focusing on merit of the case you prefer to pay attention to inessential .

** I have no problem with someone teaching me proper English grammar and punctuation but before you decide to correct anyone, please start from yourself.. since you blunder, too.
*** For your information, it is a commonly used phraseological collocation.

So it's a commonly used phraseogical collocation? Just like "nuclear family", "crystal clear", et cetera. I can bet all my money that almost nobody on this forum has heard such a phrase. Anyway, it's still a redundant phrase, a fact that you cannot deny. You make more punctuational mistakes than me, so maybe you should have listened more when you were in school?

http://www.giddylimits.co.uk/over_50...OpenLearn.html

[carolyn07]

...i think its considered cheating when your not being honest to a person or even yourself!,.♥

[spirit]

Originally Posted by Kenshy

So it's a commonly used phraseogical collocation? Just like "nuclear family", "crystal clear", et cetera. I can bet all my money that almost nobody on this forum has heard such a phrase. Anyway, it's still a redundant phrase, a fact that you cannot deny. You make more punctuational mistakes than me, so maybe you should have listened more when you were in school?

http://www.giddylimits.co.uk/over_50...OpenLearn.html

Nahh. You talk nonsense. And how dare you tell me I make more punctuational mistakes, if you don't even know where to place commas and quotation marks! *stares blindly* You continue to write it your "own way," trying to convince everyone around that it's correct. Stop acting like you are some "omnibus," which evidently you are not. If you are so hard to convince then why don't you search this phrase in google, it would be easiest way for you to see, since you think you always know "better." Like I said before, I don't mind anyone teaching me some proper grammar, but first you need to represent an immaculate example. If you were, then you would instantly recognize a literary hyperbola, being often used in literary works. (<-- look it up in a decent dictionary ;)) That's my writing style. You may not like it but don't question it.
Plus, try to keep it on the topic. I am tired of you picking on people.



Cheating.
Forgiveness takes more strengths to overcome the pain rather than telling someone to leave.
This is my opinion.
Argue, if you think differently.