which will get you farther

[analogZero]

Originally Posted by Nahmu

all are brilliant examples... but in their own lifetimes, they couldn't even see the point of influence to which they rose after they died. they used what they know to get the attention of people who listened, but their popularity postmortem as more people knew of them. if their ideas had died out with them, they would not be remembered. while what they knew was enough to garner them attention, if they had known people of more power, they would have risen higher or even lived.

live as someone of great material wealth, or die and be remembered for ages to come for the person you became of your own making.
I personally see the legacy of artistry as being a bit ridiculous. That a person's talent is essentially worthless until they're gone is rather ludicrous and moreover insulting. van gogh is a good model for that, I suppose.

[Kanu]

Originally Posted by analogZero

live as someone of great material wealth, or die and be remembered for ages to come for the person you became of your own making.
I personally see the legacy of artistry as being a bit ridiculous. That a person's talent is essentially worthless until they're gone is rather ludicrous and moreover insulting. van gogh is a good model for that, I suppose.

Its an interesting question. Im not sure if i agree. See, Oscar Wilde said something along the lines of artists put in their work what they themselves dont possess. I think artists understand that they relinquish their ownership when they creat something of profound beauty - the value lying in the sense of numinous felt when its looked at and you cant buy, label, or own that. Whether or not the artist is alive is irrelevant its just an equation of time and exposure which in van goghs day didnt work out well for him.

Art is an example of 'what you know' because its an expression that isnt justified by outside influences. Masters of art have attained immortality, which is essntially what all these other succesful people are after - engraving their names on the tomes of history.