Q: nature vs. nurture

[spirit]

OK. My previous thread regarding "evil people" was an INTRO post... to find out [less or more]... what kind of social group AF members represent. It seems likely you are "typical" western thinkers, in other words some of you won't believe in something unless it's physical or/and "proven".
In general, speaking of Westerners, USA citizens tend to be less open minded than Eastern countries with ancient-based culture, history, traditions as well as deep-rooted beliefs.

This thread concerns one of the most controversial topics touched by numerous scientists, philosophers, theoreticians etc. It is an ongoing debate as well as dilemma to which no one can find the absolute axiomatic answer.
I would like you to discuss our human kind and its nature. The way we are - especially our psyche and behavior... is it an outcome of the environmental impact... or something we are born with?

In my own opinion human mentality and behavior, shouldn't be ever put as contradiction of either nature over nurture or vice versa. I believe it is a combination of both.... so instead of "vs"... it should be nature + nurture.
I believe people are born with numerous predispositions (in other words "features") which if triggered by the environment they live in, life circumstances, the way they were brought up - they might envelope or not - like hidden talents, ability to become a "mathematical genius," great in sport or even the predisposition to become a serial killer.
We have "encoded data" withing our gens. Even the reason why we experience the phenomenon like stress or fear, it is due to our genetics, and ancestors who developed this emotional/physical state of the body and mind to simply survive... and then passed it onto next human generations.

If some of us are unfamiliar which what is it all about nature vs. nurture then here's a note from Wikipedia:
The nature versus nurture debates concern the relative importance of an individual's innate qualities ("nature", i.e. nativism, or philosophical empiricism, innatism) versus personal experiences ("nurture") in determining or causing individual differences in physical and behavioral traits. The view that humans acquire all or almost all their behavioral traits from "nurture" is known as tabula rasa ("blank slate"). This question was once considered to be an appropriate division of developmental influences, but since both types of factors are known to play such interacting roles in development, many modern psychologists consider the question naive - representing an outdated state of knowledge. The famous psychologist Donald Hebb is said to have once answered a journalist's question of "which, nature or nurture, contributes more to personality?" by asking in response, "which contributes more to the area of a rectangle, its length or its width?". For a discussion of nature versus nurture in language and other human universals, see also psychological nativism.
For more info go to Wikipedia or google.

[sleeper101]

Wow that was long but it makes think and now i must go and ponder what i just read but i agree with you its a combonation of nature and nurture. Well i'm off to ponder.

[Ryuuzaki]

Yeah...Okay I didn't read all that, but I read enough to get the gist of what your talking about. So yeah, I think it's a combo of both...Mhm.

[spirit]

Originally Posted by Ryuuzaki

Yeah...Okay I didn't read all that, but I read enough to get the gist of what your talking about. So yeah, I think it's a combo of both...Mhm.

haha, I changed the font size... now, it's a bit shorter... lol You don't have to read the Wiki part!!
Well, I added text from Wiki... so other ppl who never heard about it could find some info... ;)

[monsoon 10]

Nurture, I frankly believe any sort of mental and physical conditioning can eliminate any genetic disposition.

[leerock89]

I have no idea what we are supposed to talk about here.... should I be arguing about how that was just a load of crap cause I don't see it actually applying? Or should I be championing the whole theory of it becuase thats what i define my life to be? Or maybe should I just laugh at it and talk about cheese?

Cheese
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cheese is a food made from milk, usually the milk of cows, buffalo, goats, or sheep, by coagulation. The milk is acidified, typically with a bacterial culture, then the addition of the enzyme rennet or a substitute (e.g. acetic acid or vinegar) causes coagulation, to give "curds and whey".[1] Some cheeses also have molds, either on the outer rind (similar to a fruit peel) or throughout.

Hundreds of types of cheese are produced. Their different styles, textures and flavors depend on the origin of the milk (including the animal's diet), whether it has been pasteurized, butterfat content, the species of bacteria and mold, and the processing including the length of aging. Herbs, spices, or wood smoke may be used as flavoring agents. The yellow to red color of many cheeses is a result of adding annatto. Cheeses are eaten both on their own and cooked in various dishes; most cheeses melt when heated.

For a few cheeses, the milk is curdled by adding acids such as vinegar or lemon juice. Most cheeses are acidified to a lesser degree by bacteria, which turn milk sugars into lactic acid, then the addition of rennet completes the curdling. Vegetarian alternatives to rennet are available; most are produced by fermentation of the fungus Mucor miehei, but others have been extracted from various species of the Cynara thistle family.

Cheese has served as a hedge against famine and is a good travel food. It is valuable for its portability, long life, and high content of fat, protein, calcium, and phosphorus. Cheese is more compact and has a longer shelf life than the milk from which it is made. Cheesemakers near a dairy region may benefit from fresher, lower-priced milk, and lower shipping costs. The long storage life of cheese allows selling it when markets are more favorable.

[Mugen]

China phoned, they want their wall back!

If I've got hidden powers written in my genes, they better wake up soon!

[monsoon 10]

Originally Posted by leerock89

Cheese
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cheese is a food made from milk, usually the milk of cows, buffalo, goats, or sheep, by coagulation. The milk is acidified, typically with a bacterial culture, then the addition of the enzyme rennet or a substitute (e.g. acetic acid or vinegar) causes coagulation, to give "curds and whey".[1] Some cheeses also have molds, either on the outer rind (similar to a fruit peel) or throughout.

Hundreds of types of cheese are produced. Their different styles, textures and flavors depend on the origin of the milk (including the animal's diet), whether it has been pasteurized, butterfat content, the species of bacteria and mold, and the processing including the length of aging. Herbs, spices, or wood smoke may be used as flavoring agents. The yellow to red color of many cheeses is a result of adding annatto. Cheeses are eaten both on their own and cooked in various dishes; most cheeses melt when heated.

For a few cheeses, the milk is curdled by adding acids such as vinegar or lemon juice. Most cheeses are acidified to a lesser degree by bacteria, which turn milk sugars into lactic acid, then the addition of rennet completes the curdling. Vegetarian alternatives to rennet are available; most are produced by fermentation of the fungus Mucor miehei, but others have been extracted from various species of the Cynara thistle family.

Cheese has served as a hedge against famine and is a good travel food. It is valuable for its portability, long life, and high content of fat, protein, calcium, and phosphorus. Cheese is more compact and has a longer shelf life than the milk from which it is made. Cheesemakers near a dairy region may benefit from fresher, lower-priced milk, and lower shipping costs. The long storage life of cheese allows selling it when markets are more favorable.

SPAM: Luncheon meat is a canned precooked meat product made by the Hormel Foods Corporation. The labeled ingredients in the Classic variety of Spam are: chopped pork shoulder meat with ham meat added, salt, water, sugar, and sodium nitrite to help "keep its color". The product has become part of many jokes and urban legends about mystery meat, which has made it part of pop culture and folklore.

Varieties of Spam vary by region and include Spam Classic, Spam Hot & Spicy, Spam Less Sodium, Spam Lite, Spam Oven Roasted Turkey, and Spam Spread.[1] - the latter is also available as halal food (see the halal sign on cans), meaning that it is permissible under Islamic law, and is especially popular in Muslim markets.

Spam is produced in (among other places) Austin, Minnesota, USA (also known as Spam Town USA). In 2002, the six billionth can of Spam was sold.[2] Spam for the UK market is produced in Denmark by Tulip under license from Hormel.

[Ryuuzaki]

I believe this topic has gone slightly off topic...

[Mugen]

Originally Posted by monsoon 10

SPAM: Luncheon meat is a canned precooked meat product made by the Hormel Foods Corporation. The labeled ingredients in the Classic variety of Spam are: chopped pork shoulder meat with ham meat added, salt, water, sugar, and sodium nitrite to help "keep its color". The product has become part of many jokes and urban legends about mystery meat, which has made it part of pop culture and folklore.

Varieties of Spam vary by region and include Spam Classic, Spam Hot & Spicy, Spam Less Sodium, Spam Lite, Spam Oven Roasted Turkey, and Spam Spread.[1] - the latter is also available as halal food (see the halal sign on cans), meaning that it is permissible under Islamic law, and is especially popular in Muslim markets.

Spam is produced in (among other places) Austin, Minnesota, USA (also known as Spam Town USA). In 2002, the six billionth can of Spam was sold.[2] Spam for the UK market is produced in Denmark by Tulip under license from Hormel.

If you like to take drive threads more off-topic, park yourself in the Spam Forums and steer all forums till your hearts content. You WILL respect my authoritaaahh!