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View Poll Results: Do you think abortions are ok?
Yes, i think it's ok to have an abortion 19 47.50%
No, i think it's wrong to have an abortion 21 52.50%
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Old 04-10-2009   #11
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well, I don't really care about what people do but in the circumstance when a girl I impregnated wanted abortion, i would be totally against it. part of it is because of my religion but I think it would be of better health(physically and mentally) for the girl to just have the baby instead.
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Uh...I'm aware of that? I said take the pill if you feel you may conceive. It has nothing to do with being certain or "realizing an issue." It's just a "what-if" scenario. If those 72 hours pass, and your child is indeed conceived, then my answer is still adoption.

Anyway, on a different note, I failed to take labor complications such as the aforementioned bleeding into account, which is strange for me to forget considering I myself am not capable of giving birth without the risk of blood clotting to death. If I were pregnant, personally, I would attempt to have the child regardless because I know that a.) I at least have a good chance of surviving due to blood thinners and b.) I have a strong enough desire for a child to live even if it's not mine...but not all women are like that, I realize, and some may feel it more important to save themselves than to risk their own lives as well as their children's at the possibility of having the child live at least.

In that scenario, I consider abortion a possibility...to save a life if there is no other way to save any lives at all.

In any other scenario I can think of, I am against abortion.
I completely agree with you, life is priceless. I would feel proud to have saved a little child's life. It's the idiot's that have sex for fun that people have to worry about! I believe that those are careless imbeciles that then panic and abort the baby. It is their fault not the babies that they like to sleep around.
 
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Well the worst part for me is once docters have removed the fetus they then use it for experiments that could be considered inhumane in several ways so that they can help the crippled and retarded become normal people and so that elderly people can live longer...
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A tricky bit of terrain to cross. My first impulse is to say that if you're not willing to drown it like a sack of kittens when it's come out, then why abort it when it's still in you.
I can appreciate the perspective of rape victims, and certain acts of birth control failure, but in most cases the parent(s) know that they f*cked up and they're trying to relieve themselves of a burden by throwing some money and time at the "problem". Most people, I find, aren't willing to evaluate a situation like this and are more willing to take an easy out rather than an effort ridden responsibility. Deal with it if it's a problem of yours, not someone else's. A universal truth is that you are absolved of your guilt if you're able to admit to it and forgive yourself ( a very difficult thing to do, of course).
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it is simpLy Like this:
"if you sex safeLy. then there's no word calLed abortion!"
those who are pLanning or trying to get the baby aborted,
this guys are idiots. stupid. or whatsoever..
if they were not prepared to have a baby. then do
it safeLy!! simpLy Like that. :)
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Until the umbilical is cut, that baby is another part of the mother's body. If you look at it from a technical perspective, any bit of dna a person gets rid has the possibility to become a human being, but you say nothing when we throw out an appendix. Besides, if no one ever aborted, the problem of overpopulation's going to get more difficult. What kind of good mother allows their child into a world where there is one hunk of bread for 10 mouths to feed? It would die miserable and hungry.
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If there is a medical problem, then I agree with it.

Any other reason is not good enough to kill.

It's a human being from the DNA, and only time forms it further to a baby when it's born.

By the way, what's this gotta do with an anime site?
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"if you sex safeLy. then there's no word calLed abortion!"
those who are pLanning or trying to get the baby aborted,
this guys are idiots. stupid. or whatsoever..
if they were not prepared to have a baby. then do
it safeLy!! simpLy Like that. :)
What the hell is with your random capitalization of the letter "l," hmm?

Anyway, you know damn well that even when people attempt to have safe sex, things happen. Condoms break, the pill fails, etc. And this debate isn't really about that, anyway. Abortion is something that happens whether safe sex occurred or not. This is beyond the sex...this is birth or lack thereof. Whether the couple had safe sex or not is irrelevant, because it has nothing to do with making the decision to abort or not.

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Besides, if no one ever aborted, the problem of overpopulation's going to get more difficult.
By what margin? Overpopulation is already enough of a problem that abortion can't possibly hope to solve it by any tiny degree whatsoever. Abortion isn't even close to the answer for overpopulation nor preventing it further.

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By the way, what's this gotta do with an anime site?
Uh, since when did everything in the "General Discussion" section have to do with anime? With as many posts as you have I would have thought you'd have been here long enough to understand how things here work, but apparently not.
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Well the worst part for me is once docters have removed the fetus they then use it for experiments that could be considered inhumane in several ways so that they can help the crippled and retarded become normal people and so that elderly people can live longer...
Well actually, that's the best part about it.
I mean, it's not inhumane at all, they are just experimenting with rests. Inhumane would be that they teared apart the flesh of a living human to experiment with it.

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Until the umbilical is cut, that baby is another part of the mother's body. If you look at it from a technical perspective, any bit of dna a person gets rid has the possibility to become a human being, but you say nothing when we throw out an appendix. Besides, if no one ever aborted, the problem of overpopulation's going to get more difficult. What kind of good mother allows their child into a world where there is one hunk of bread for 10 mouths to feed? It would die miserable and hungry.
That's why we should test on people and those that are inferior [deformed, retarded, very fat people, etc] should be killed. That would solve a lot of things.
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I say kill the damn thing.
Hahah! You are pretty damn straight!

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They don't feel pain? What sort of lame ass argument is that? Of course they do!
It might not be a great excuse but it is true. They are just some cells working together to form a baby, not a baby. They do not have a nervous system so of course they can't feel pain...

My opinion is this, I am not completely against abortion. If staying pregnant might result in some serious physical or psychological problem for either the mother or the baby then I would suggest it. As I said before it is not a baby just some cells working together. Nothing like a human being...
We also need to think, besides the mother, the baby too. If the baby is born and it experiences a hell of a life, then is it not better to prevent that. Again I am saying under really sever circumstances. Abortion is not for fun...
At any rate, the couple should consult a gynecologist, a psychologist and maybe a philosopher(to have a better understanding of the ethics behind it)!

Edit: Forgot to say this! The experiments carried out later are on some cells not a baby. It is like experimenting on blood or hair.
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