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View Poll Results: Do you think abortions are ok?
Yes, i think it's ok to have an abortion 19 47.50%
No, i think it's wrong to have an abortion 21 52.50%
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Old 04-09-2009   #1
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Exclamation What do you think of abortion?

I personally think that it's terrible and need to be outlawed. Even if you don't want the baby you should have it killed just to get rid of it. Instead, you could put it up for adoption when it's born or something. So that's what i think. But what do you think?
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I say kill the damn thing.
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There's no real reason for abortion to exist at this point. If you feel you may conceive, take a "morning after" pill to stop the process. This includes after you're raped, if that is the case.

People like to think that killing children is excusable if a child is the result of rape. To be honest, I'm not really sure why anyone would think that. Adoption is always a choice, so why waste a child's chance at life by killing it off? If you cannot care for it, let someone else do so. It's that simple.

There's just really no reason to abort because problems of unwanted birth can be solved in other ways. That's what I think, anyway. But I don't openly protest abortion or anything like that, and I'm not going to slander women for their choices.
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I say kill the damn thing.
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I lol'd.. but anyways, I think abortion is wrong.
Not because you're killing the baby, I don't give a sh*t about the baby. I mean, it's really traumatic to know that something that's inside you dies. Abortion may cause serious brain damage and may even cause death or abduct the person to commit suicide because of guilt.
So it sounds a lot safer to have the damn baby and put it up for adoption than to risk your life for it don't you think?
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Cost of birthing a child:

The typical uncomplicated pregnancy runs about $14,000 in total cost.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=81760


Cost of abortion:

The cost of an abortion depends on the stage of pregnancy and which clinic is providing services. First trimester procedures run about $500-1000. Second trimester procedures cost $600-10,000.

http://www.fwhc.org/abortion/flyer.htm

Listen, it's your choice to say that it's wrong to abort or that it's okay to abort, but this is one thing you need to understand, and that's money. Even if you choose to allow the child to fully develope, the hospital cost is substantially more than the cost of aborting it.


Second off, the ideas of it being right or wrong to abort is really directly assumed that the fetus is a human life, which is debatable for different stages (Some people believe it's a life at conception). So do you have the same feeling about aborting a newly developed child as you would for one that's developed for 3 months, 6 months, 8 months?


And now some personal arguments:

@ -.Shiki.- : How does brain damage occur if you don't have your brain in your pelvis? Besides that, if you choose to abort your child then you already know what it means and have already accepted the actions and consequence. There's not really much that can happen to traumatize you. As for the suicide, same thing. You already acepted it and you wouldn't bother looming over your decision. As for the death and risks, click the handy dandy second link up there.

@ Suigintou - You can still get pregnant if you use a condom (Via the condom breaking or being improperly fitted). So, assume you feel that you won't get pregnant. The morning after pill only works during the first 72 hours, so depending on how long it takes for you to realize an issue or you take a test, it may be too late to take the pill.

@ Memorix - See my points listed at the beginning of the text, and give me a reason that it should be outlawed.
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@ -.Shiki.- : How does brain damage occur if you don't have your brain in your pelvis? Besides that, if you choose to abort your child then you already know what it means and have already accepted the actions and consequence. There's not really much that can happen to traumatize you. As for the suicide, same thing. You already acepted it and you wouldn't bother looming over your decision. As for the death and risks, click the handy dandy second link up there.
The "second link" was made by people who want to promote abortion, so OF COURSE they would talk about it as the best option.
Look at the risks as numbered in this page:

http://www.pregnancycenters.org/abortion.html

There are some risks that weren't numbered in the other link..

And I believe you took the "brain damage" thing too literally. By "brain damage" I mean it psychologically.

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There's not really much that can happen to traumatize you. As for the suicide, same thing. You already acepted it and you wouldn't bother looming over your decision.
I mean, YOUR SON IS DYING.... or should I say, YOU ARE KILLING [because it's YOUR decition] your son by tearing it apart. Isn't that enough to traumatize you?
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In all honesty I dont give a rats ass. Its your decision. THe baby is still in your womb and has yet to breath fresh air or feel pain. So do what you want
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I don't really care one way or another. I don't have to carry the child in my abdomen for nine months, then give birth to it. At worst I'd have to deal with the bitching and late night diaper changes and feedings. It's the womans' choice. If it's your choice, make it. If it's some one elses' choice, let them make it.
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Are you putting a price tag on life? that's ridiculous, I believe in NECESSARY abortion such that if the mother would die if she didn't...or internal bleeding. I still disagree on abortion, it's alive damn it. People make a bigger deal about dogs being killed then babies, what the hell are dogs? They can't talk, have REAL emotions, they can't love or have memories. It's the parents fault not the kids, you unsympathetic walking zombies! If I wasn't in a droll mood right now, I'd make a better argument toward the imbeciles who abort children. And it isn't the mother's choice because it would be ridiculous to make a choice of a murderer! They don't feel pain? What sort of lame ass argument is that? Of course they do!

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@ Suigintou - You can still get pregnant if you use a condom (Via the condom breaking or being improperly fitted). So, assume you feel that you won't get pregnant. The morning after pill only works during the first 72 hours, so depending on how long it takes for you to realize an issue or you take a test, it may be too late to take the pill.
Uh...I'm aware of that? I said take the pill if you feel you may conceive. It has nothing to do with being certain or "realizing an issue." It's just a "what-if" scenario. If those 72 hours pass, and your child is indeed conceived, then my answer is still adoption.

Anyway, on a different note, I failed to take labor complications such as the aforementioned bleeding into account, which is strange for me to forget considering I myself am not capable of giving birth without the risk of blood clotting to death. If I were pregnant, personally, I would attempt to have the child regardless because I know that a.) I at least have a good chance of surviving due to blood thinners and b.) I have a strong enough desire for a child to live even if it's not mine...but not all women are like that, I realize, and some may feel it more important to save themselves than to risk their own lives as well as their children's at the possibility of having the child live at least.

In that scenario, I consider abortion a possibility...to save a life if there is no other way to save any lives at all.

In any other scenario I can think of, I am against abortion.
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