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Old 03-09-2009   #11
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Yes, they are. However, Christianity is not a religion: it's a faith. A debate for another time.
That is what you're debating right now.
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most wars are started over religion
Yes, they are. However, Christianity is not a religion: it's a faith. A debate for another time.[/quote]

for someone who's christian by faith, Christianity is there religion
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yup its real
and everything it says is true
well i can't say but it's sometimes right & wrong at some points...
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Is the Bible real?
Of course it is!
Haven't you seen that big book filled with christianity related stuff?
Now, wether what is said IN it is true or not, that's another question that i will answer as well, but first, let me ask you this.
Are you christian?
If you are, then what it says is real and did happen.
And if you're not then no, its not real and it never happened.
As simple as that.
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I don't think people are really answering the question here
I think what JesiGash is asking is whether you agree with what the Bible is saying or not? Let me remind that the Bible is a book that talks about God with arguments! It's not like someday you wake up and decide to be Christian so you buy the Bible and start reading it and accepting it. The Bible is a philosophy book talking about God. Those who agree with the ideas of this book are called Christians. As simple as that.

I, sadly, haven't read the whole Bible but because of the religion classes in my school I have read a lot about it and know some stuff. I agree with what I have read so far, however, I can't really call myself a Christian because I haven't read he Bible completely.

About the wars started over religions... well they didn't. These wars would start anyway. It is just that people were able to use religion in order to motivate the people to fight. I don't recall Jesus saying kill the non-believers!
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Interesting question. Is the bible true or false. First, I'm not christian. Please don't make that mistake about me.

That aside, For me it is not so much is the bible true or not, but was it correctly interpreted events by the original authors. Beyond that, How many mistakes have been made through out the years in coping and translation? People make errors. Many of witch are not realized until it is to late.
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Throw this out there too.[/COLOR]
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Yeah, except for the fact that it's taking the Bible completely out of context.

Here are my thoughts on that:

The Death + Resurrection of Jesus:
We all have done something wrong in our lives. Sure, we didn't get the death penalty for lying, but it still was wrong to do that. Well, the wrong that we do is sin and if we sin we are deserving of death. Eternal Death.

Romans 6:23 says, "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord".

Romans 5:10 says, "For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by His life."

However, God loved us so incredibly much that He didn't want us to die so He sent Jesus His Son. Believe it or not, but Jesus is God in the Flesh. I know what you're thinking, "Wait they killed God?!" And yeah, they did (or thought they did: they killed His earthly body). However, God wanted to prove that He has power over "death". So He rose again. No, He's not a zombie that wants us to symbolically eat His flesh. If He's the all powerful God (which He is), then it stands to reason that He cannot die(which He can't). Makes since.
Now a guy just takes a bullet for you. Would you not love that guy forever? I mean seriously this stranger just died to save you! I don't care who you are, you'd love Him. You'd have to!

Lets sum it up now:
We are supposed to die.
He saves us with His life (earthly life of course)
However, He is God and has power over death so he is resurrected by His Power and Glory proving that He has power over death.
All He asked in return was for us to remember the sacrifice that He made by eating some bread. Jesus said, "This is my body given for you: do this in remembrance of me." and, " This is the cup of the new testament (agreement of covenant) in my blood, which is shed for you." (Luke 22:19, 20 KJV)

No, Jesus is not some zombie. He is an awesome God who proved His love for us by paying the price for our sins AND conquering the power and fear of death.
well said.

i do believe the Bible is real. true man did right it down and translated it but God basically told them through a dream and actually showed them (John the Baptist if memory serves right) of what to write down. Revelations honestly has to be one of my favorite books because of the prophecy of the end of time. especially this day and age how wars are breaking out, people promising they can save a country, to a Earth Federation.

what honestly worries me about obama is how easily people voted for him because he promises he can save our country and people are seeing him as the Messiah. now do i think he might be the Anti-Christ yeah honestly do. (may the flaming begin). true a of people did vote for him because he was black and it would of been a glorious day in history for a black president, and people didn't care if he had any experience or not. i hope i am wrong about him but my cut instinct is saying yes and it has never let me down before. anyways discussion for another day.

so yeah Bible is a history book of what happened and what will come. anywho if you think i'm even crazier than that's perfectly fine because i know i am.
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well said.

i do believe the Bible is real. true man did right it down and translated it but God basically told them through a dream and actually showed them (John the Baptist if memory serves right) of what to write down. Revelations honestly has to be one of my favorite books because of the prophecy of the end of time. especially this day and age how wars are breaking out, people promising they can save a country, to a Earth Federation.

what honestly worries me about obama is how easily people voted for him because he promises he can save our country and people are seeing him as the Messiah. now do i think he might be the Anti-Christ yeah honestly do. (may the flaming begin). true a of people did vote for him because he was black and it would of been a glorious day in history for a black president, and people didn't care if he had any experience or not. i hope i am wrong about him but my cut instinct is saying yes and it has never let me down before. anyways discussion for another day.

so yeah Bible is a history book of what happened and what will come. anywho if you think i'm even crazier than that's perfectly fine because i know i am.
Well, you might argue if Obama is better or worse than McCain but calling him the Anti-Christ is taking a bit too far! lol
Besides, how worse can he be from Bush???
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I think its a story made up hundreds of years ago to scare small children into doing as they are told.
Slash.
To scare a kings kingdom into abiding by the rules and not rioting, pillaging or having gay sex.
A story that most people are still gullible enough to believe today.
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Of course the bible is real!!
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