Is the Bible real?

@leshinor

I believe that the God was the same, because wouldn't the Jesus sacrifice explain how his anger was dulled? The old testament describes Jesus as well, so I think there was the same God except he had no ultimate sacrifice to put his flame out, he had to stick with tiny animals, so God had to be sacrificed (Jesus). It explains it pretty well, I am just a theorist and hypothesion nothing else so human error is not out of boundry.

[mellowguy]

Originally Posted by wi_sam

The Torah was the first book which came with the first major religion that God sent to us humans with his -human- prophets. In this case Moses.
People did not and could not accept it but eventually with all the miracles they started to belive, but then again humans are sinners, they found ways to go around the commandments and taboos, they misused the words of God hence Judiams wasn't a flowless religion nor was the Torah.

So God desided to evade and cover these flows and give humans a stronger more acceptable teachings. For people evolve as time goes by.

Christianity was created, the Bible was it's book and Jesus is the -human again- prophet.
The same thing happend again, wars were raged in the name of God and religion between those -jew- who did not accept Christianity as the new religion of their God.
And over the time the Bible has been faked, lost, rewritten and misunderstood on purpose, by those -and i do NOT spesficly mean the jew-humans who used the name of God to justify their actions.

So again God have sent his Last and final religion Islam, with his -also human- prophet Muhammad .... and the final book was Quran .... and again wars are raging .......

I have not add any single word from my imagination, and if you did some research about these three major religions you will see that every thing will
fit into place.

So it is real, but we don't know if it was the same book with the same teachings that was sent from God at that time ...

It's an interesting theory, but in the name of defending the my people, I can't agree. The Torah, for all it's complexity, was pretty simple- be good or we will get you. If you were raised Jewish, the laws were applied since birth. You cannot say that the religion is flawed because people "circumvented" the rules. That's just flawed people, and they are everywhere. (by the way, what is your definition of prophet, for Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were pretty chatty with God and and it's angels, being founding fathers of Judaism and all.)

I suppose maybe the reason Christianity was created was that a Jew accidentally ate bacon and said: "Holy beep, why can't we eat this?" Not to insult any Christians; tis a joke.

I think the theory could be reworked saying that humans thought that the current religion wasn't like what they wanted in a religion, so they found a new one to follow.

[wi_sam]

Originally Posted by CryticX

@leshinor

I believe that the God was the same, because wouldn't the Jesus sacrifice explain how his anger was dulled? The old testament describes Jesus as well, so I think there was the same God except he had no ultimate sacrifice to put his flame out, he had to stick with tiny animals, so God had to be sacrificed (Jesus). It explains it pretty well, I am just a theorist and hypothesion nothing else so human error is not out of boundry.

So, let me get this straight even though I'm getting out of the subject ... Christianity state that Jesus is God, son of God or just a mare human prophet who's like the rest of the previous and later prophets has been armed with miracles to give people more reasons to belive in god(THE God) who made him (as in Jesus) .... ???

[sammarai]

yes the bible is real

@wi

Ever heard of the trinity? Research it.

[analogZero]

Originally Posted by BoneTosser

ALL Christian holidays are corruptions of pagan holy days. Christmas = Winter Solstice
Easter = Ishtar, a Babylonian Goddess of the Heavens, had a son who was believed to be resurrected from an egg that fell from the sky. The Easter Bunny, Is a corruption of a pagan fertility symbol. Mix all this together, give it new meanings and history, and you have Easter.
Valentines Day =Valentine's day began as a pagan fertility rite celebrated with drunkenness and sexual license during which time sweets and springflowers were given as sacrifices to the gods in the temple.

After I found out all of this information I realized that The Bible was a retelling of most every pagan story. Different characters, different places, different time, [U]SAME[U/] stories. Knowing that, how can anyone believe in The Bible.

you should mention the relevance of the cross in relation to the cross of the zodiac while you're at it.

Originally Posted by CryticX

I knew it wasn't in December but it's better then celebrating the old Roman "incense to the gods" tradition. I hate Santa, what a lame-ass story about a gay pedophilic old man giving "toys" to little children, I swear it's Michael Jackson.

I've determined that santa is in fact a vampire. he only comes out at night. for him, the younger the better (nothing beats fresh, virgin blood). he lives in a place where it's predominantly night for an extended period of time. I could go on.

Originally Posted by leshinor

Alright then. Shall I share my current thoughts with everyone?
I believe that the Old and the New Testament cannot be talking about the same "God". In the Old Testament, God is presented more..... 'violent' than in the New Testament. In the Old Testament He orders people to kill others and violently oppose non-believers sometimes. However, in the New Testament, God is presented as a totally Good Being that will not mess into human affairs that much and instead will be waiting for humans to approach Him. He is loving and caring and will forgive everyone if they repent...
So, here comes the first question, do you believe the Old and the New Testament to be describing God in the same way or should they be separated?

True punishment is in the heart of a man who can't forgive himself. no punishment can outweigh the burden of guilt. This is why it's important to repent your wrong doings, it's the sign of admitting your mistakes and moving on in life.
"Jules, did you ever hear the philosophy that once a man admits that he’s wrong that he is immediately forgiven for all wrongdoings?"
-vincent vega, pulp fiction

[leshinor]

Originally Posted by analogZero

True punishment is in the heart of a man who can't forgive himself. no punishment can outweigh the burden of guilt. This is why it's important to repent your wrong doings, it's the sign of admitting your mistakes and moving on in life.
"Jules, did you ever hear the philosophy that once a man admits that he’s wrong that he is immediately forgiven for all wrongdoings?"
-vincent vega, pulp fiction

Yes I agree with that but how is it related to the question?

[wi_sam]

Originally Posted by CryticX

@wi

Ever heard of the trinity? Research it.

"The Christian doctrine of the Trinity teaches the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three persons in one Godhead"

So basicly, God is three "persons" in one Godhead... I don't know what's the definition of persons. But I do know that the word trinity does not exist in the Bible, it was "developed" from the bibical language from the new tastements... which leads us to a new question.

Is the current Bible real ??

[analogZero]

Originally Posted by leshinor

Yes I agree with that but how is it related to the question?

theme. It's a common one of many religious practices.

[Ramrok]

Originally Posted by wi_sam

"The Christian doctrine of the Trinity teaches the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three persons in one Godhead"

So basicly, God is three "persons" in one Godhead... I don't know what's the definition of persons. But I do know that the word trinity does not exist in the Bible, it was "developed" from the bibical language from the new tastements... which leads us to a new question.

Is the current Bible real ??

to better explain 'persons'... look at it this way... Obama... hes president, father and a husband... does that example suffice?

the bible is composed of the old AND the new testament... the reason why one is 'old' and one is 'new' is what marks as the timeframe that separates the two... which is from around the time of Jesus' resurection.

the bible that was known around the timeframe when Jesus walked on earth, is the old testament... lol, its funny how you seem to talk with so much knowledge like you actually would know so much about the bible.
oh well.