School Shooting They Didn't Cover

[Crymson]

The problem is how do you prove beyond a doubt that a crime was a hate crime and that a minority or person of alternative lifestyle wasn't just a random victim? It can be done, sometimes, but I would venture most of the time it can't be proven. even when it is the case.

[leerock89]

see thats where its all f-up. the court system barely work(learned that from exp), lawyers are for the most part corrupt(also from exp), and the masses like it when people are in the shit hole. its a demented society we live in but ill tell u i wouldnt want to be living in any other era. i mean wat would i do without animefuel!?!

[Crymson]

Good point. Anime makes all the wrongs of the world ok.:D

[Corwin]

I think we just need to re-institute the death penalty, not for every murder, but for 50% of them at least, and get rid of this 30yr wait on death row making appeals in cases where guilt beyond doubt, sort of like Ron White talks about it, put in an express lane, that would at least be a deterrent, if I knew I'd be executed 10min-10months, after I killed someone assuming that it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, especially in the case of the accused pleading guilty, then I'd be a lot less likely to go kill someone, but as long as ppl know they can sit in jail for the rest of their lives enjoying tv, internet, gym equipment, a bed, a roof, 3 squares a day, and not having to spend a dime of their own on it, yes they lose freedom but a lot of them don't seem to care, and many of them become so institutionalized after a few years in that they don't want to get out, I mean I wouldn't be able to smoke or drink whenever I wanted anymore but compared to not having to pay rent, make a mortgage payment, car payment, buy groceries, pay bills and taxes, that's not a bad deal

[tangaloor5]

I disagree. I don't think the death penalty is a good idea. There is too good of a chance that someone who is actually innocent would die. That even happens now with the long wait. I really don't think jail should be comfortable though. Why should they get tv and internet, let them be bored.

[leerock89]

i actually like wat corwin said. in fact lets take it a step further and have all those on death row do some gladiator things and have them die publicly.

[Corwin]

as I said, it should only be used in cases where it is beyond doubt that the accused is guilty

**Lee thought I don't think that's a good idea, I don't really agree w/ the idea of ppl viewing an execution now, it just gives too many ppl an opportunity to indulge their dark voyeur

[leerock89]

i know i know. well do it live too. like some reality show.

[Crymson]

I agree with tangaloor5. However, we should give everyone guns. Statistics show that areas where obtaining weapons and licenses are easier that violent crime is lower. therefor the more guns, the less crime.

here is just one reference, its a bit old, but still valid, other than a few comments about liberals
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/econo...less-crime.htm

[tangaloor5]

As for the shadow of a doubt thing, that is dependent upon the person viewing the evidence. You're only suppose to convict people if there is proof beyond a shadow of a doubt but there are still many innocent people convicted.

As for the guns thing. I am afraid to own a gun because the chances of a mugger, for example, using it on me is probably pretty high.