School Shooting They Didn't Cover

[Crymson]

maybe it would. I would hope that I would have the calm and wisdom to want that person tried as a minor, but I think that is something that you cant comment on until you've lived through it. and I never have.

[tangaloor5]

Unfortunately, under the current legal system the best that could be done would be to try to scare them with jail. I mean they already did it, proactive isn't going to help much.

I think 14 is old enough to understand death and that killing is very final and wrong. Come on, so many people died, there has to be a penalty for that.

[Corwin]

so you feel you can't comment on something like that, but you feel you have the necessary experience to comment on someone being tried as an adult or a minor? not trying to be offensive or argumentative, I'm just saying, that seems a little hypocritical, like you want to make a nice safe decision that makes you seem like a good guy while staying away from the questions that might make you change your tune

[Crymson]

Oh, I could say that I would say try them as a minor. And I will. so there.
But I also know that when I get angry I lose my head. I also know that I can start with all the best intentions, and let my emotions get the best of me.
I'm not trying to sound like a saint, I am by no means the most moral and righteous person in the world.

[leerock89]

this is getting to complicated!! look the kid killed someone who happened to be gay. media didnt cover it cause in reality thousands of people die daily and one more crackpot kid on the news isnt gonna help much.the kid screwed up! if he regrets it then try him as a minor if he doesnt send that fool to prison and keep him there. the fact that there are kids like that mean that the parents are really fucking up. like really really really screwing with the kid and turning him/her into one bad sheep. the parents should get tried for failure to teach their own offspring the difference between right and wrong.

[Crymson]

That's a blanket generalization. There are some really good parents with really screwed up kids, and vice versa. You can't say that because someone is screwed up that their parents are screwed up, or that they screwed their kid up.

[tangaloor5]

By the way, why is it so important that one of the people killed was gay. A person is a person right. You don't really need to emphasize that one thing. I would really hate to be characterized by only one thing.

[Crymson]

Originally Posted by tangaloor5

By the way, why is it so important that one of the people killed was gay. A person is a person right. You don't really need to emphasize that one thing. I would really hate to be characterized by only one thing.

I agree. It seems like a crime committed against a minority or someone with an alternative lifestyle is more important than one committed against a "normal" person.

[tangaloor5]

I agree. The whole "hate" crime thing is stupid. A crime is a crime. Many killings are done because of hate that don't qualify as a "hate" crime. Singling out just a few types isn't right.

[leerock89]

i dont know if i agree with that. true, crime is a crime but when u add hate to it it usually means something done out of hate(duh) while a regualr crime doesnt need hate to happen. ex- stealing a car for the money vs stealing a car because u really hated the person who drove it. thats why hate crimes are frowned on more then regualr crime. they did it out of hate. i mean common professionals in the dark underworld world do wat they do cause its their job. regular people who commit hate crimes arent commiting it cause they do that crime on a regular basis but because they hate someone/something, and, as we humans are petty beings, we lash out in rage and hate.