Evolutionism or Creationism

[leshinor]

Originally Posted by FlrcntKnht

well in response i say who is to say that there is not. Existentially speaking the purpose could be one of personal identification or transcendence beyond this reality. God does give purpose to this world but only in a temporal sense. The higher purpose is just something that i will agree can not be understood or may not even exist but the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence to get all cliche but then again same could be said for the existence of God

That is kinda hard to grasp! Do you mean that we cannot prove that there is no purpose just by saying that we do not have evidence of it?
Well, anyway, it is too late for me to process stuff like that! I'm going to bed!

I hope tomorrow I'll get it

[Viduus]

Originally Posted by leshinor

Then what do you think about the following? Do you believe God exists?

I'm not sure how you couldn't infer this from my post, but no, I don't.

And as for the entire "we have to have a purpose" crap... why do we? I suppose I could see how people may have a problem seeing that in the long run what they do is absolutely pointless, but that doesn't mean there HAS to be some fancy shmancy higher calling. It's kinda sad that people use religion to escape the truth of life.

[leshinor]

Originally Posted by Viduus

I'm not sure how you couldn't infer this from my post, but no, I don't.

And as for the entire "we have to have a purpose" crap... why do we? I suppose I could see how people may have a problem seeing that in the long run what they do is absolutely pointless, but that doesn't mean there HAS to be some fancy shmancy higher calling. It's kinda sad that people use religion to escape the truth of life.

I never said we have to have a purpose just that I believe we have a purpose. It's up to you to decide!

Then, another question: do you believe that there are such things as souls and other supernatural stuff?

[Viduus]

Originally Posted by leshinor

I never said we have to have a purpose just that I believe we have a purpose. It's up to you to decide!

Then, another question: do you believe that there are such things as souls and other supernatural stuff?

Nope. We're all just products of electrical signals firing in the brain.

[SmokedBoo]

Originally Posted by Viduus

Nope. We're all just products of electrical signals firing in the brain.

I was wondering why I heard a buzzing sound in my head. And here was me thinking it was the T.V. still on. Thanks for clearing that up Vid! *thumbs up*

[leshinor]

Originally Posted by Viduus

Nope. We're all just products of electrical signals firing in the brain.

Aren't you feeling really depressed with such an opinion? lol

[Viduus]

Originally Posted by leshinor

Aren't you feeling really depressed with such an opinion? lol

Why would I be depressed? I at least don't have any illusions of grandeur :)

Edit: Take a look at it this way, would you rather think that life is just a cycle and thus be proud of anything you accomplish, or believe that there's some higher purpose in life and feel like you never lived up to that?

[leshinor]

Originally Posted by Viduus

Why would I be depressed? I at least don't have any illusions of grandeur :)

Edit: Take a look at it this way, would you rather think that life is just a cycle and thus be proud of anything you accomplish, or believe that there's some higher purpose in life and feel like you never lived up to that?

But what would I be proud of if all we are is a combination of elements? If the world is nothing more than a machine that functions for no reason? Everything is meaningless then. The world would be the way it is now because the atoms had certain interactions with each other. Then, everything we do is predetermined. Evolution occurred because certain atoms bonded together and slowly formed what is called life. But living creatures are not really alive (or I should say they don't have a free will) then because their actions are predetermined. For example, I am making some choices because it is in my character to make them. But my character is formed by the experiences I had and maybe by my DNA. However, the experiences I had were bound to happen because of the interactions between the atoms. Thus, my choices were bound to happen. It is like billiard. Once the shot is taken, you can from then on determine what will happen and which balls will go where by doing some complicated math. It's the same in the world. Once it has started its destination is certain. But it never started and maybe it will never end! It's like a machine doing the same thing over and over again. So, everything in humanity is pointless and things such as pride are nothing more than another interaction between atoms.
I don't think I really explained it well! Point out what you didn't understand so I can explain it better

[RezenatorZ]

i think the misconception of evolution is that we evolved directly from apes, but the truth is we evolved from a close ancestor of apes and humans, something that evolved into both apes and the beginnings of humans. there is more science behind evolution then there is for creationism if there is any for creationism. im a science guy so i think that makes my intentions clear. peace

[SmokedBoo]

Originally Posted by RezenatorZ

i think the misconception of evolution is that we evolved directly from apes, but the truth is we evolved from a close ancestor of apes and humans, something that evolved into both apes and the beginnings of humans. there is more science behind evolution then there is for creationism if there is any for creationism. im a science guy so i think that makes my intentions clear. peace

Is your name Bill Nye by any chance?