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Old 02-17-2009   #101
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i believe in Creationism and i have one thing to say about Evolution where is the proof the so called missing links where is the proof for them?
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i believe in Creationism and i have one thing to say about Evolution where is the proof the so called missing links where is the proof for them?
where is the proof that we just appear''Poof'' like that on earth by god ? I don't count the bible as a proof sorry ¬¬
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it is alright everyone has a right to their opinion that is what free will is for anyway
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it was more a question than an opinion :)
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where is the proof that we just appear''Poof'' like that on earth by god ? I don't count the bible as a proof sorry ¬¬
AGAIN, the Bible is not the only book sent by God.
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Yay we are all wrong lol

Well it is true that we are all probably wrong in some way. There are many possible answers, some of them we have found but some we haven't, BUT there is only one truth. The probability that we did find the truth is very low, near zero! So... yeah we are all probably wrong. Which means that we have to keep investigating until we find the truth (if that time ever comes)!
You're also both right, don't forget.
But if we're going to analyze the potential that somewhere down the road, potentially anywhere from now until _insert timespan_ years later figures out that life suddenly appeared as a result of unfathomable probability, or A mystical entity that exists beyond and/or within our universe, then it's not going to help out school systems by deciding what they need to teach now. That's where the main pin pick of this debate comes from. what to teach the poor children. but that's a different debate.
The futility that comes from this debate as a whole has it's merits in terms of knowledgeable advancement, but in dealing with something as infinite as knowledge...well you're back to square one, stacking building blocks higher and higher until you reach the end of the sky.
A fair question would be, do you find God by holding an absolute faith? or do you find God by exploring that which has been left all around you?
Kinda depends on just what God really is.
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AGAIN, the Bible is not the only book sent by God.
a book sent by god...... if i try to figure this ... it look funny XD
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I have read a number of reports in scientific journals as to how life may have began on our planet. I've seen figures of evolution trees, how humans branched off from the simians we know of today. The amount of proof we have of the occurrence of evolution is staggering. The main reason I side with evolution is that it has been proven to exist, through science and more importantly, by logic.

However, logic has not proved creationism wrong. I just mean to say that the burden of proof is on creationism. Faith doesn't explain anything.
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well lets see the theory of evolution is not supposed to be full proof. Darwin knew it was not all right but that does not mean we should just throw out that data. Nor should we discount because some dudes who wrote a book and said it was God who gave them the book. The fact that the Dates for the Bible are IMPOSSIBLE and i guess we should not look at the Dinosaur bones found as well as carbon dating of said bones. Creationism is not even plausible. Inteligent Design has more credibility then Creationism because it tones down the relation to the Bible and said an Inteligent Designer made everything plu stries to get scientific backing with funds from Religous groups. Evolutionary theory has more justification then Creationism and as an agnostic who believes that we as humans could never ever understand such a concept as God or Aristotle's uncaused cause and to even attempt to try is like slapping him in the face i would have to say that Evolutionary theory was started by this universe and the end result may not even be known by him, but I'm becoming hypocritical trying to attempt to understand God. I was so close to making a point without contradicting myself BLAH...

P.S. Some really good books on the subject
Stephen Gould's Evolutionary Theory
The Flying Spaghetti Monster
Anything by Richard Dawkins
The God Delusion(best refernce for those going agianst Creationism/Intelligent Design)
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well lets see the theory of evolution is not supposed to be full proof. Darwin knew it was not all right but that does not mean we should just throw out that data. Nor should we discount because some dudes who wrote a book and said it was God who gave them the book. The fact that the Dates for the Bible are IMPOSSIBLE and i guess we should not look at the Dinosaur bones found as well as carbon dating of said bones. Creationism is not even plausible. Inteligent Design has more credibility then Creationism because it tones down the relation to the Bible and said an Inteligent Designer made everything plu stries to get scientific backing with funds from Religous groups. Evolutionary theory has more justification then Creationism and as an agnostic who believes that we as humans could never ever understand such a concept as God or Aristotle's uncaused cause and to even attempt to try is like slapping him in the face i would have to say that Evolutionary theory was started by this universe and the end result may not even be known by him, but I'm becoming hypocritical trying to attempt to understand God. I was so close to making a point without contradicting myself BLAH...

P.S. Some really good books on the subject
Stephen Gould's Evolutionary Theory
The Flying Spaghetti Monster
Anything by Richard Dawkins
The God Delusion(best refernce for those going agianst Creationism/Intelligent Design)
Well I've got some questions cause it was a bit confusing

What do you mean by saying the Dates for the Bible? The Chronological order of the events?

By him do you mean God?

So, wait, what do you believe in? Intelligent Design?
I agree with you that we cannot understand God but we should at least try even though it is futile. We cannot just blindly accept our incapability and do nothing!
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