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Old 09-25-2008   #121
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That's like saying the car is to blame for people killed due to driving drunk.
if the drunk driver intends to kill then yes. A car can be a very destructive weapon, but fatalities as a result of motor vehicles are rarely a case of murder in comparison to good ol' fashioned bad driving.
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if the drunk driver intends to kill then yes. A car can be a very destructive weapon, but fatalities as a result of motor vehicles are rarely a case of murder in comparison to good ol' fashioned bad driving.
It all boils down to proper and improper use. Gun deaths aren't just murders. It's also suicides and accidental shots just like purposely running over people, drunk driving, and flat out bad driving all contribute to car related fatalities.

http://www.every15minutes.com/ According to this site a person dies every 15 minutes from an alcohol related collision. That is 4 an hour, 96 a day, or 35,040 a year. That's like 3 times your gun statistic. That's just alcohol and nothing else. If this information is accurate then why are so many people bitching about guns and demanding bans on guns?
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There is more skill to shooting a gun correctly than you know. Not to mention the fact that you need to know how to take it appart, clean it, and put all the little pieces back.
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a sword is just as effect as a gun. To prove my point I'll use a few scenarios...now like many things in like place and timing is a must if you want your desired outcome to happen. A gun in close quarters with the SAFETY is just a metal rod when the sword will simply slash you before you can take the saftety off (true the first slaash may not kill you but lets be honest if someone is trying to kill you and your already cut your trying to get away not worry about the gun. Natrual fears will take over and thats that)

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Meeting the enemy in a dark area and you must draw i'll assume that if your target is close enough you should be able to wound them >_> if not...(slash) One can only assume that the draw time on the gun must me faster than the sword but a weapon in ahands of a master is well deadly

so for t'he whole thing...noth can killl you so, so what :P
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Look a gun is much better by far ok ... but the sword is just bad ass and cool looking
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a sword is just as effect as a gun. To prove my point I'll use a few scenarios...now like many things in like place and timing is a must if you want your desired outcome to happen. A gun in close quarters with the SAFETY is just a metal rod when the sword will simply slash you before you can take the saftety off (true the first slaash may not kill you but lets be honest if someone is trying to kill you and your already cut your trying to get away not worry about the gun. Natrual fears will take over and thats that)

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Meeting the enemy in a dark area and you must draw i'll assume that if your target is close enough you should be able to wound them >_> if not...(slash) One can only assume that the draw time on the gun must me faster than the sword but a weapon in ahands of a master is well deadly

so for t'he whole thing...noth can killl you so, so what :P
Although urban combat has increased since the age of Napoleonic Warfare combat is still normally conducted with targets more than 20 feet away (well past the reach of a sword). Swords generally aren't designed to be thrown. Usually when the target is withing sword strike range is during a raid of a building. In that instance the safeties are usually off and the guns are ready to go. As for the safety taking a long time to take off that is not quite true. Most safeties are located in a location for simple engagement and disengagement. While the gun is being drawn from the holster you can take the safety off usually. Upholstering a gun is similar to taking a sword from its sheath. Swords are not just as effective as guns. If 5 swordsmen were to charge me from 50 feet and I had an M249 then more likely than not the swordsmen won't have a snowballs chance in hell.

I know that a sword in the hand of a master is deadly, but no matter how much skill you have you will never have the skill to deflect bullets like samurai jack.
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It all boils down to proper and improper use. Gun deaths aren't just murders. It's also suicides and accidental shots just like purposely running over people, drunk driving, and flat out bad driving all contribute to car related fatalities.

http://www.every15minutes.com/ According to this site a person dies every 15 minutes from an alcohol related collision. That is 4 an hour, 96 a day, or 35,040 a year. That's like 3 times your gun statistic. That's just alcohol and nothing else. If this information is accurate then why are so many people bitching about guns and demanding bans on guns?
the statistic earlier did corroborate the 11 000 some deaths by homicide as previously stated. now, sweep away everything accidental and unintentional from both scenarios. Meaning get rid of the alcoholics that drive home because they've "got it under control". Think those who want to use their vehicle as a means of doing damage. I'm sure that 35 040 would dwindle down considerably. That number would then have to par up to the 11 000 total as opposed to the 20 000+ that would make up the total with other gun related deaths.
Plus the fact that one 'evil' (I put quotes to avoid further debate over firearm evilness, so just put it out of your mind) outweighs another doesn't make the first good by comparison. Drunk driving is taken very seriously, as is motor vehicle safety, and a lot of money is spent on making it stop.
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It's amusing that you are insulting me this very moment. Yes, it is pointless, but I'm not going to stand by and let someone insult me without saying anything about it. Perhaps you should take your own advice and try it out? It's obvious that you are the one in need of a good dictionary. Also, I suggest a spell checker. I know Firefox has one.

God forbid anyone disagree with you. Grow up.

I'm done with this nonsense.
Are you so childish as to try and use my points against me and no original idea? apparently so. second; I often suck at typing and not spelling and spell check devices aren't 100% perfect so I use my dictionary not some machine. third: I already employ my advice as it is my knowledge, or I would have said something else. and out of anything can you handle a constructive point of view? maybe, maybe not. the only insult was me being offended by your remark continually insisting on the idea I don't state the facts here then having the tanitansy to tell me to grow up, and so I may certifiably have been a tad harsh- but I only get that way when someone doesn't get it and continues to insist that I am a lair, I hate to lie and you said that I lie using your opinionative statements. Since your willing to drop it, I will not say anything further. I apologize if you feel offended.

Does anyone know what was the weapon of choice in the civil war? I got a thesis to finish.

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. A gun in close quarters with the SAFETY is just a metal rod when the sword will simply slash you before you can take the saftety off
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Are you so childish as to try and use my points against me and no original idea? apparently so. second; I often suck at typing and not spelling and spell check devices aren't 100% perfect so I use my dictionary not some machine. third: I already employ my advice as it is my knowledge, or I would have said something else. and out of anything can you handle a constructive point of view? maybe, maybe not. the only insult was me being offended by your remark continually insisting on the idea I don't state the facts here then having the tanitansy to tell me to grow up, and so I may certifiably have been a tad harsh- but I only get that way when someone doesn't get it and continues to insist that I am a lair, I hate to lie and you said that I lie using your opinionative statements. Since your willing to drop it, I will not say anything further. I apologize if you feel offended.

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