Is the Earth doomed?

[leerock89]

Originally Posted by a2ng0d

We are sucking our planet dry, but it doesn't mean that it's the end for mankind. The difference between today's world and the civilizations of old is that today we have organizations such as WTO and the UN. Countries involved in said organizations have dropped the primitive trait of humans killing other humans for stupid reasons, such as inferiority of race/class. We no longer wage war on peoples that we find "different". Countries/ groups that still continue these practices are not involved with these world organizations. In fact, they get schooled. Ex: Saddam Hussein and his genocide of the Kurds, and look how hard we f*cked him. Bin Laden is soon to get f*cked. and China/North Korea? I'd like to see them try.

Humans by nature are consumers. To get to our "top of the food-chain" status that we have acquired over the ages, we had to consume, and we had to destroy. However, we have also learned to adapt, better than any other organism on the planet. Sadly, we adapt mostly by spreading to other areas and consuming some more. But who knows, I for one believe that science will prevail in the end. That, and the fact that we have developed a conscience and/or a sense of ethics, and that we've become aware of our weaknesses, shows that we're capable of helping ourselves.

The largest waste of time and energy I've seen. Do you know what they do the majority of the time? Sit in a group and argue about whether or not they should help out a group of people, whether or not they should send food to a starving race, whether or not to send troops to help a nation in distress, and they can't come to a fast decision cause everything there is ruled by politics not humanitarianism. Granted they have done some good, but not much. Look at what America did in Iraq. The US bypassed the rules and walked right in like a bunch of battle hungry vikings, saying it was to preserve the way of liberty and justice. SHAME ON THOSE ORGANIZATIONS!

[cjfidler]

Everything comes to an end including the earth itself, And we as human are not doing much more than speeding its destruction With all the people out there trying to save mother earth we still are doing more bad than good. If we don't wipe ourselves out with war we will with our wasteful and destructive habits.Personally I don't see any hope for this planet.

[Sadrith]

It just depends on what we do in the next fifty years wether it will be doomed. Even if it is we as humans will find a way to adapt to the new living condititions. I think that we need to worry more about world war three or the paranoid guy with the phone in control of the missles.

[a2ng0d]

Originally Posted by leerock89

The largest waste of time and energy I've seen. Do you know what they do the majority of the time? Sit in a group and argue about whether or not they should help out a group of people, whether or not they should send food to a starving race, whether or not to send troops to help a nation in distress, and they can't come to a fast decision cause everything there is ruled by politics not humanitarianism. Granted they have done some good, but not much. Look at what America did in Iraq. The US bypassed the rules and walked right in like a bunch of battle hungry vikings, saying it was to preserve the way of liberty and justice. SHAME ON THOSE ORGANIZATIONS!

Yes, it is true that politics rules over humanitarianism in this world. But it's just what we have to deal with to make everyone happy. Besides, I don't think America invaded Iraq without consent from the UN. Which is why we have other countries in Iraq as well: Britain, Canada, Australia. I do believe that they may have planned the events of 9/11 secretly to gain rights to invade the Middle East.

You gotta think of it this way: Back around 2005, Japanese intelligence reported that China was tripling its military budget. As we all know, the Chinese government was purchasing petroleum, tanks, and several fighter jets. The Japanese believed that they were planning an invasion of the surrounding countries, and reported it to the United States, who ignored it until about a year or two later. Why were we so cool about it? Because to randomly invade countries would be suicide without the UN's consent. You would get Romped. In current events, Russia got owned by the UN and was forced to withdraw from Georgia.

America basically had the permission from the UN to participate in this current war for reasons that "We're fighting terrorism", or "We're getting them back", and while they're at it "Let's take out a dictator and free these people". Everybody knows that the American government wouldn't do that out of the goodness of its heart.

But I digress. The UN may not be perfect, but it is our first successful attempt to unify as a race, and it would be the first to respond (I hope) to any possible extraterrestrial attacks. I wonder, doesn't the UN have its own army? I might be wrong.

[Viduus]

Originally Posted by a2ng0d

Yes, it is true that politics rules over humanitarianism in this world. But it's just what we have to deal with to make everyone happy. Besides, I don't think America invaded Iraq without consent from the UN. Which is why we have other countries in Iraq as well: Britain, Canada, Australia. I do believe that they may have planned the events of 9/11 secretly to gain rights to invade the Middle East.

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What? Are you a conspiracy theorist?

The US did send in troops to Iraq without the green light from the UN, on top of which they used falsefied and embelished "facts" to support the reasons Iraq was invaded in the first place.

And thinking the towers were downed for rights to invade the Middle East.... wow. I can't even begin to explain how boggled I am at statements such as that.

You gotta think of it this way: Back around 2005, Japanese intelligence reported that China was tripling its military budget. As we all know, the Chinese government was purchasing petroleum, tanks, and several fighter jets. The Japanese believed that they were planning an invasion of the surrounding countries, and reported it to the United States, who ignored it until about a year or two later. Why were we so cool about it? Because to randomly invade countries would be suicide without the UN's consent. You would get Romped. In current events, Russia got owned by the UN and was forced to withdraw from Georgia.

Owned? How so? Russia stopped attacking Georgia days after it started and then stated they weren't going to withdraw out of the regions they had taken over. Russia didn't have shit happen to them.

America basically had the permission from the UN to participate in this current war for reasons that "We're fighting terrorism", or "We're getting them back", and while they're at it "Let's take out a dictator and free these people". Everybody knows that the American government wouldn't do that out of the goodness of its heart.

But I digress. The UN may not be perfect, but it is our first successful attempt to unify as a race, and it would be the first to respond (I hope) to any possible extraterrestrial attacks. I wonder, doesn't the UN have its own army? I might be wrong.

The UN is the remnant of what was put together after World War II to counter the spread of Communism. It's a system which serves no real purpose any more other than to help the superpowers of the world waggle their finger at smaller countries and say that's a nono, and then blatantly disregard what the UN suggests when they try to do something.

The concept of a UN, of a WTO, of a European Union is great. It's execution will almost assuredly fail every single time as long as there's countries on different economic, social, and technological levels.

[a2ng0d]

Originally Posted by Viduus

....
What? Are you a conspiracy theorist?

The US did send in troops to Iraq without the green light from the UN, on top of which they used falsefied and embelished "facts" to support the reasons Iraq was invaded in the first place.

And thinking the towers were downed for rights to invade the Middle East.... wow. I can't even begin to explain how boggled I am at statements such as that.

Owned? How so? Russia stopped attacking Georgia days after it started and then stated they weren't going to withdraw out of the regions they had taken over. Russia didn't have shit happen to them.

The UN is the remnant of what was put together after World War II to counter the spread of Communism. It's a system which serves no real purpose any more other than to help the superpowers of the world waggle their finger at smaller countries and say that's a nono, and then blatantly disregard what the UN suggests when they try to do something.

The concept of a UN, of a WTO, of a European Union is great. It's execution will almost assuredly fail every single time as long as there's countries on different economic, social, and technological levels.

Regarding the towers; my suspicions are not necessarily fact, but i have spoken with a college professor who was affiliated with Illuminati; and he brought up subjects that really made you think. If politics is a game of chess, and a sick game it would be in this case, then supposedly the United States has sacrificed a piece in attempts to gain something else. Everyone should know that the CIA tracked the terrorists way before September 11th, and that we could have easily destroyed their operation before any damage was done. So why would you think that these attacks were allowed to take place? Besides gaining rights to the Middle East. You can think of it this way: Who do you put your trust and faith in when your country is attacked by an enemy? The Government. And what happened after these so called "attacks"? Airport Security, but most importantly:The Patriot Acts. Do you see where this is going? They have the right to eavesdrop all communications from phone calls to instant messaging. Not to say they are always watching you, but they have the right to. Certain internet sites are being blocked because the Patriot Acts say they are "inappropriate for the citizens of this country". Who the hell are they to judge what is and what isn't appropriate? It's our God given right as American citizens to visit whatever sites we choose. But no one can protest, why? Oh, because we're scared of terrorists. Whatever. Slowly, but surely, these "Patriot Acts" are going to turn this Land of the Free...into something else. This is only a theory.

And about the Russia Georgia thing, i thought i read something about them agreeing to withdraw after that crap with France and Condoleezza Rice.

[Viduus]

Originally Posted by a2ng0d

Regarding the towers; my suspicions are not necessarily fact, but i have spoken with a college professor who was affiliated with Illuminati; and he brought up subjects that really made you think. If politics is a game of chess, and a sick game it would be in this case, then supposedly the United States has sacrificed a piece in attempts to gain something else. Everyone should know that the CIA tracked the terrorists way before September 11th, and that we could have easily destroyed their operation before any damage was done. So why would you think that these attacks were allowed to take place? You can think of it this way: Who do you put your trust and faith in when your country is attacked by an enemy? The Government. And what happened after these so called "attacks"? Airport Security, but most importantly:The Patriot Acts. Do you see where this is going? They have the right to eavesdrop all communications from phone calls to instant messaging. Not to say they are always watching you, but they have the right to. Certain internet sites are being blocked because the Patriot Acts say they are "inappropriate for the citizens of this country". Who the hell are they to judge what is and what isn't appropriate? It's our God given right as American citizens to visit whatever sites we choose. But no one can protest, why? Oh, because we're scared of terrorists. Whatever. Slowly, but surely, these "Patriot Acts" are going to turn this Land of the Free...into something else. This is only a theory.

I find it highly dubious that something like that is set up. I do agree that the situation was taken highly advatange of to an extreme which preyed on the fears of the public, but to think that it was set up is borderline insanity. I hate to say this but movies and TV shows about conspiracy theories and such have widely made people think things like that can actually happen.

And about the Russia Georgia thing, i thought i read something about them agreeing to withdraw after that crap with France and Condoleezza Rice.

Nah, they stopped fighting, I still don't think they've totally withdrawn. Then again it's an ongoing situation even though it's not frontline news any more.

[a2ng0d]

Originally Posted by Viduus

I find it highly dubious that something like that is set up. I do agree that the situation was taken highly advatange of to an extreme which preyed on the fears of the public, but to think that it was set up is borderline insanity. I hate to say this but movies and TV shows about conspiracy theories and such have widely made people think things like that can actually happen.

When I consider these points :

- They knew it was coming LONG before it happend. The threats were direct.
- We didn't know shit until stuff started blowing up.
- What they're getting out of it

I don't know what to think about our government anymore. Go to any big city, and you may see this posted in various places : "9/11 was and inside job." Those are just the cries of people trying to open other peoples' eyes.

[Viduus]

Originally Posted by a2ng0d

When I consider these points :

- They knew it was coming LONG before it happend. The threats were direct.
- We didn't know shit until stuff started blowing up.
- What they're getting out of it

I don't know what to think about our government anymore. Go to any big city, and you may see this posted in various places : "9/11 was and inside job." Those are just the cries of people trying to open other peoples' eyes.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like our government, I think they're doing a terrible job. However, I don't think there'll be anything that'll convince me that they planned 9/11, or just let it happen short of going back in time and seeing it myself.

I suppose it doesn't help that most of everyone who I hear stuff like that from I have never liked their personality.

[Rincewind]

Actually several religions and prophets and even sienticts have told and written down that a kind of apocalypse/end of the world will come anyway, so well just have to wait and see for ourself :(