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Old 06-01-2008   #11
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The problem with nuclear is that it's like oil, non-renewable. looks good now, but down the road when there's a uranium shortage and future generations are looking for another place to put nuclear waste, then they'll just be back at square one looking at new energy sources to put into effect.
The other issue with oil, that is worth bringing up is that it is the creator of plastics! and here's a little vid for everyone to check out on the fun that is plastic. feel free to check out the rest of the series they've got along the side.

http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=1519713792
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FTL is Faster Then Light. It can be anything that allows us puny humans to travel the stars faster then light. Of course the whole thing seems impossible because of Einsteins theory of relativity, but thats because we've only gone so far with our science. I'm pretty sure once thats found we can find other sources of energy and stop being so dependent on something nonrenewable.
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Sun Tzu, That is quite a radical approach and while I agree some of it is probable, I must disagree on a couple points. Bio Diesel gets a much better bang for your buck, especially with rising oil prices. I know switching to Bio Diesel would not eliminate our dependancy, but it would practically cut it in half. Same goes for the farming; First of all, none of teh farmers would be subsidized in your scenario allowing for more crops to grow. Also, I have never seen a farm tractor that did not run on diesel, Bio Diesel saves the day again.

For those who don't know. Bio Diesel is produced from vegetable oil in a process called esterfication. The two byproducts of this process are glycerin, which is a main ingredient in soap, and Bio Diesel, a cheap clean burning fuel.

Leerock, I have to agree. I believe the problem with FTL travel is just that it can't happen with our current physics. I think it is absolutely possible, and probable, that there will be a discovery that will lead to controlled wormholes. I agree, that would solve a lot of problems, if they could be used within the earths atmosphere and could be self sustaining. I can just see us having to burn oil to create a wormhole XD
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The problem with nuclear is that it's like oil, non-renewable. looks good now, but down the road when there's a uranium shortage and future generations are looking for another place to put nuclear waste, then they'll just be back at square one looking at new energy sources to put into effect.
The other issue with oil, that is worth bringing up is that it is the creator of plastics! and here's a little vid for everyone to check out on the fun that is plastic. feel free to check out the rest of the series they've got along the side.

http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=1519713792
Do you know how long uranium last until it's out of energy, in that time we will probably have found smaller more efficient forms of energy.
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Well most likely for a FTL to work we would probably have to come up with a whole new set of laws so we could by pass whats holding us down. GO PEOPLE WITH MUCH LARGER IQ THEN ME!!!!!!!!!!! DO ALL THE HARD WORK SO I COULD LEAVE THIS PLANET!!!
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I wouldn't say a new set of laws. Not until we have left the solar system.
I believe the closest we are to fast space travel would be the space drive. Once we are able to isolate and direct the graviton we will be well on our way. I also think this discovery will help us learn more about the fabric of the universe (support/refute Einstein's space-time theory), we will have reached the bottom rung of the hyperspace ladder.
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The government has already mastered the fields of Space Travel, Time Travel, Memory Modification, Alien Communication, and they already have come up with a cheap, non-polluting, renewable power source 100x more powerful than oil.

They just keep all of this to themselves though.
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And they asked me to make sure it all stays secret... mind if I come over Koopa?
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Do you know how long uranium last until it's out of energy, in that time we will probably have found smaller more efficient forms of energy.
quite true, if they were to impliment uranium 238 plants as they would long outlive the human race I'm sure, but oil was supposed to last forever too. currently we're only using 0.72% of mined uranium, which is used for about 6 years before it has to cool itself off for about 40+ at which point there's the chance of reprocessing what's left of it. It's like eating lunch and then crapping out a month's worth of constipation. While it is incredibly efficient it seems more like another heap for the pile of garbage we're already producing when you weigh it out to how much power we'd have to generate for the entire earth. It's easy enough to say that it's negative press is due to people's fear of nuclear weaponry and the rare malfunction though, for that it gets the majority of it's bad rep.
The sun's far more nuclear than anything we're going to find on earth, and we've been using it's energy for how long? start counting...It's been adored by mankind throughout history for a reason. And nuclear power will be long dead before the sun is. It wouldn't cost much to start building solar panels if they were in demand, hell they'd be pumped out of the factories faster than we could make them. But I suppose there'd only be profit from panel production and not much more. no refueling. They'd have to make them shitty so they'd require maintenance, or do like TV and have everyone upgrade to the new plasma solar panels. ooo la la!
Point being, new energy is going to have to make someone rich, and if it doesn't it won't be implimented. Consumerism, it's what your money's for! If energy were free or easily accessible, then where would that leave the world?

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FTL is Faster Then Light. It can be anything that allows us puny humans to travel the stars faster then light.
bend space/time like in the movie event horizon! although we'd have to cross our fingers and hope the same thing doesn't happen as does in that movie.
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Unfortunatly this world cannot be helped.. even if we are to find a new sorce of power it will eventually come to an end.. its an endless spiral that only repeats itself.. money is also a problem.. its one of the reason, why we cannot truly succeed in finding a renewable sorce of energy that we all need.. its actually behind everything.. this world is forever doomed!
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