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Old 09-21-2009   #11
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http://www.answerbag.com/articles/Ho...c-929d14648fc5

That's the only thing that doesn't let me reject spanking entirely. As long as it doesn't go to far from spanking.
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I'm hopefully going to train my children to be silent pseudo-ninja omnivores with a knack for hacking and d&d. If they don't turn out this way, I'll probably blame it on genetics.

In all seriousness though, I'd rather children found out about consequences from outside, real world devices- like bumping into bullies or not looking where your going. Allowing children to be injured, instead of protecting them from all harm, is very important to me. One article which describes this perfectly is:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/artic...1/nation-wimps
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I never suggested quick fix. Consistency and proper punishment, a spanking can be a good punishment. Spur of the moment would probably be abuse anyway. I don't have assumption as I read hundreds of articles, but for people like you let me cut down my topic in one sentence since it's hard to understand.

"Most parents COMPLETELY discourage spanking" and I don't believe spanking (or disciplinary beating) should be completely rejected. Some offenses require different punishments. Don't agree? eat me.
Thanks for simplifying for "us people"?
Dude, repetitive condensation aside, I said roughly the same thing you did (consequence good, aggression bad, inaction bad) only I tilted more in favour of not hitting the kid. I just threw down a thought and didn't direct at your comments or anyone else's. They're simply words for the ears, not ones I'm trying to put in your mouth.

Just to add though, reading hundreds of articles doesn't absolve you of assumption. You might want to try publishing something on the subject, before you preach your sound experience and wisdom.
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I was under the impression that most of us already knew by now that physical punishment isn't worthless. And that we knew already that both punishment and reinforcement only truly work when consistent.

I feel like this thread isn't teaching anyone anything.

Then again, maybe I just assume too quickly that people are knowledgeable.
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i agree with the topic a good well desevered beating is best if you wish to raise well behaved kids i may be only 16 but i was raised right and i think im a pretty good kid i was beat or threatened to be when i needed to be (i think im babling now)
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i agree with the topic a good well desevered beating is best if you wish to raise well behaved kids i may be only 16 but i was raised right and i think im a pretty good kid i was beat or threatened to be when i needed to be (i think im babling now)
I was also raised that way, and I think I'm a pretty good kid.

My mom works as a nurse, so she understands what (out-of-control) physical punishments will do to us. She only spanked us sometimes, but now me and my siblings are older. We're at the age of understanding what they expect of us when they yell at us.
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I dont think beating kids is alway a good solution but it sometimes works, but it can also backfire and become a crime so when you say something as dangerouse as beating children there always pros and con to the issue.
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Yes I read many articles, I just wrote that so you won't shove your Google knowledge into my face. I call it the "Google shield" XD .

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No. People don't agree with that assumption, some of which commented in this thread. I hope those people buy some 'No more Tears tm.' shampoo and wipe those little prissy tears away.

BTW, I noticed somebody gave me a neg rep for this thread. All I can tell you is - It's a fucking debate topic, that's why it's in a debate section you socksniffer, what's more ridiculous is that you were too cowardly to leave a name and put a dot as the comment, fag, I have no respect for people like you. Instead of getting all butthurt, I suggest you type something instead of lurking and being a chimp.

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This thread gave me a hearty laugh.

Your kids are yours, you created them, so do what you want to them - just keep it to yourself.
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BTW, I noticed somebody gave me a neg rep for this thread. All I can tell you is - It's a fucking debate topic, that's why it's in a debate section you socksniffer, what's more ridiculous is that you were too cowardly to leave a name and put a dot as the comment, fag, I have no respect for people like you. Instead of getting all butthurt, I suggest you type something instead of lurking and being a chimp.
There's no need for bad repping when a spanking would do just as well, people.
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