Gay Marriage

[atomsk]

so the entire world should be good Christians. you know Christians are the only religion that complains about every little thing. thats why i'm pastafarian and by forcing your religion upon others you are breaking the second i'd rather you didn't:
"I'd really rather you didn't use my existence as a means to oppress, subjugate, punish, eviscerate, and/or, you know, be mean to others. I don't require sacrifices, and purity is for drinking water, not people."

and if they are gonna go to hell for it it dont concern you. if the priest that marries them goes to hell why should you care.
infact by breaking the second id rather you didnt i shall send a letter to congress to opress your right to say and do stuff against my sacred flying spaghtti monster.

thats my opinion on the matter. and the last paragraph is sarcasm.
and when christianty stops being a whiney little bitch ill convert back. but untill then.

[saprintha]

well i'm for it. if they want to get married then let them get married. to say i don't view marriage as a man and women thing, however, i view it as 2 people who loves eachother and wants to spend the rest of their life together.

[Shi-chan]

I'm for it too. As long as there's love (and both are legally allowed to be married) it doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman you marry. That's what I think anyways!

[am0184]

I don't care as long as no one hits on me.

[Zaraki]

Originally Posted by atomsk

so the entire world should be good Christians. you know Christians are the only religion that complains about every little thing. thats why i'm pastafarian and by forcing your religion upon others you are breaking the second i'd rather you didn't:
"I'd really rather you didn't use my existence as a means to oppress, subjugate, punish, eviscerate, and/or, you know, be mean to others. I don't require sacrifices, and purity is for drinking water, not people."

and if they are gonna go to hell for it it dont concern you. if the priest that marries them goes to hell why should you care.
infact by breaking the second id rather you didnt i shall send a letter to congress to opress your right to say and do stuff against my sacred flying spaghtti monster.

thats my opinion on the matter. and the last paragraph is sarcasm.
and when christianty stops being a whiney little bitch ill convert back. but untill then.

i'm not trying to push my religion on anyone i'm against that. i love it how ppl take things out of content of what i've said. i'm only giving my opinion. i also love it how people get so upset about someone else's when the author of the thread said what do you think about it and someone says something that has a different opinion from the others and gets upset about it.

[hsb39]

Originally Posted by Zaraki

i'm sorry but it is supposed to be between a man and a woman not man and man or woman and woman. i do believe it says it in the Bible. it's been like that since the beginning of time. for that one comment about God isn't real. well guess what He is real. how can you say evolution or the other atheist theories can create life and the universe. yeah we can't see Him but what He has created should be enough reason.

Just because you say that it is doesn't mean that it is, I have presented some evidence for my points (although I admit I did not give references in them). I said that marriage was created before monotheism, and it was not originally Christian (or possibly even religious). I also pointed out that the (six) verses in the Bible that make reference to homosexuality (remember that the term homosexuality didn't exist back then, or it was made up by Paul, but I don't think that that's very likely) may not actually mean what we think. Also three of them, the ones in the OT, can be cut down by the other things said in the OT (Leviticus 21: 16-21). I also pointed out that most people here are in secular countries, meaning that laws should be made independently of religion, so how can someone use Christian arguments when they are supposed to be irrelavent. Your argument consisted of "I'm sorry but I'm right". You said that you're not trying to push your religion on anyone, but you really are.

like i said before i never really thought about it like that. don't forget we are human too we make mistakes and we aren't perfect we do screw up. Jesus came to save us from burning in Hell for all eternity. not too mention we don't have to do sacrifices like they did in the old testament to ask God to forgive us and not going to Hell.

Yeah but if homosexuality is a mistake it is of no fault to the gay person. It's not a choice.

like what i said before he hates the sin and not the people who commit the sin. well think of this why don't guys also have the ability to give birth? it takes two to create human life. we can't reproduce a-sexually like some creatures can. we are supposed to re-populate this world that is why marriage is supposed to be between a man and a woman. if we could a-sexually reproduce then why would it matter if you marry a guy or a girl?
It took six pages for this argument to come up? It's still fun to cut it down. What your saying here is that:
1. Infertile people should not be able to get married.
2. Gay people shouldn't be allowed to adopt.
3. We should just randomly have sex and make babies.

This argument has been done better, go over your wording and such if you want to use this one, or any of your other arguments.

I'm sorry to say this, but the people here just can't debate like the people on Pokemon forums...

[Akisu]

Because this is a thread that asks what my opinion is on gay marriage I will state just that. If I have stated what others have stated in previous posts I don't really care, I'm not going to go through and read everybody's posts to make sure I don't repeat anything.
I am completely in favor of gay marriage, and this is coming from someone who is not very open minded as well. I typically say no to a lot of things, but considering human rights I mean come on, you can't only allow natural rights to a certain population of people in the US or any nation for that matter.
I understand that the bible states marriage is strictly an eternal bond between a man and a woman. But the bible also states you are allowed to sell your daughter into slavery and stone your wife. And it also forbids sex before marriage. If I'm not mistaken, those rules aren't exactly practiced today now are they?
Taking away gay marriage would also be unconstitutional, hence the separation of church and state. Its against the constitution to mix religion and politics. =]

If anyone disagrees I'd be more than happy to go in further detail.

[fejknick]

Originally Posted by Akisu

Because this is a thread that asks what my opinion is on gay marriage I will state just that. If I have stated what others have stated in previous posts I don't really care, I'm not going to go through and read everybody's posts to make sure I don't repeat anything.
I am completely in favor of gay marriage, and this is coming from someone who is not very open minded as well. I typically say no to a lot of things, but considering human rights I mean come on, you can't only allow natural rights to a certain population of people in the US or any nation for that matter.
I understand that the bible states marriage is strictly an eternal bond between a man and a woman. But the bible also states you are allowed to sell your daughter into slavery and stone your wife. And it also forbids sex before marriage. If I'm not mistaken, those rules aren't exactly practiced today now are they?
Taking away gay marriage would also be unconstitutional, hence the separation of church and state. Its against the constitution to mix religion and politics. =]

If anyone disagrees I'd be more than happy to go in further detail.

Great post.
And its all so true.

[hsb39]

Originally Posted by Akisu

Because this is a thread that asks what my opinion is on gay marriage I will state just that. If I have stated what others have stated in previous posts I don't really care, I'm not going to go through and read everybody's posts to make sure I don't repeat anything.
I am completely in favor of gay marriage, and this is coming from someone who is not very open minded as well. I typically say no to a lot of things, but considering human rights I mean come on, you can't only allow natural rights to a certain population of people in the US or any nation for that matter.
I understand that the bible states marriage is strictly an eternal bond between a man and a woman. But the bible also states you are allowed to sell your daughter into slavery and stone your wife. And it also forbids sex before marriage. If I'm not mistaken, those rules aren't exactly practiced today now are they?
Taking away gay marriage would also be unconstitutional, hence the separation of church and state. Its against the constitution to mix religion and politics. =]

If anyone disagrees I'd be more than happy to go in further detail.

The only part there that I can disagree with is that I haven't found the part (and no one has shown me) in the Bible where it states that marriage is only between a man and a woman.

[Akisu]

Thanks ^__^