Is the Bible real?

[JesiGash]

I decided to start this debate because there is a lot of controversy over whether or not life was created by intelligent design. Well to defend intelligent design you have to know that what you are defending is real. What does the Bible say? "in the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth."(Genesis 1 verse 1) I am a Christian by faith and I believe in the Bible and it's words by faith and I believe in God by faith. So there is both my view and my stand. I am rock solid in my faith and I am ready to defend the authenticity of the Bible. Now, be so kind as to tell me your stand and why you believe that. Also, tell me why you don't believe the Bible is true and how you know.

"The Law of the Lord is perfect converting the soul: the Testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple" (Psalms 19:7 KJV)

[atomsk]

yup its real
and everything it says is true

[soulten]

Originally Posted by atomsk

yup its real
and everything it says is true

I'll second that, read it and see the truth man.

Throw this out there too.

[Anime_Dude]

Originally Posted by soulten

here he is

[JesiGash]

Throw this out there too.[/COLOR]
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Yeah, except for the fact that it's taking the Bible completely out of context.

Here are my thoughts on that:

The Death + Resurrection of Jesus:
We all have done something wrong in our lives. Sure, we didn't get the death penalty for lying, but it still was wrong to do that. Well, the wrong that we do is sin and if we sin we are deserving of death. Eternal Death.

Romans 6:23 says, "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord".

Romans 5:10 says, "For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by His life."

However, God loved us so incredibly much that He didn't want us to die so He sent Jesus His Son. Believe it or not, but Jesus is God in the Flesh. I know what you're thinking, "Wait they killed God?!" And yeah, they did (or thought they did: they killed His earthly body). However, God wanted to prove that He has power over "death". So He rose again. No, He's not a zombie that wants us to symbolically eat His flesh. If He's the all powerful God (which He is), then it stands to reason that He cannot die(which He can't). Makes since.
Now a guy just takes a bullet for you. Would you not love that guy forever? I mean seriously this stranger just died to save you! I don't care who you are, you'd love Him. You'd have to!

Lets sum it up now:
We are supposed to die.
He saves us with His life (earthly life of course)
However, He is God and has power over death so he is resurrected by His Power and Glory proving that He has power over death.
All He asked in return was for us to remember the sacrifice that He made by eating some bread. Jesus said, "This is my body given for you: do this in remembrance of me." and, " This is the cup of the new testament (agreement of covenant) in my blood, which is shed for you." (Luke 22:19, 20 KJV)

No, Jesus is not some zombie. He is an awesome God who proved His love for us by paying the price for our sins AND conquering the power and fear of death.

[Zaraki]

Originally Posted by JesiGash

Throw this out there too.[/COLOR]

Yeah, except for the fact that it's taking the Bible completely out of context.

Here are my thoughts on that:

The Death + Resurrection of Jesus:
We all have done something wrong in our lives. Sure, we didn't get the death penalty for lying, but it still was wrong to do that. Well, the wrong that we do is sin and if we sin we are deserving of death. Eternal Death.

Romans 6:23 says, "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord".

Romans 5:10 says, "For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by His life."

However, God loved us so incredibly much that He didn't want us to die so He sent Jesus His Son. Believe it or not, but Jesus is God in the Flesh. I know what you're thinking, "Wait they killed God?!" And yeah, they did (or thought they did: they killed His earthly body). However, God wanted to prove that He has power over "death". So He rose again. No, He's not a zombie that wants us to symbolically eat His flesh. If He's the all powerful God (which He is), then it stands to reason that He cannot die(which He can't). Makes since.
Now a guy just takes a bullet for you. Would you not love that guy forever? I mean seriously this stranger just died to save you! I don't care who you are, you'd love Him. You'd have to!

Lets sum it up now:
We are supposed to die.
He saves us with His life (earthly life of course)
However, He is God and has power over death so he is resurrected by His Power and Glory proving that He has power over death.
All He asked in return was for us to remember the sacrifice that He made by eating some bread. Jesus said, "This is my body given for you: do this in remembrance of me." and, " This is the cup of the new testament (agreement of covenant) in my blood, which is shed for you." (Luke 22:19, 20 KJV)

No, Jesus is not some zombie. He is an awesome God who proved His love for us by paying the price for our sins AND conquering the power and fear of death.

well said.

i do believe the Bible is real. true man did right it down and translated it but God basically told them through a dream and actually showed them (John the Baptist if memory serves right) of what to write down. Revelations honestly has to be one of my favorite books because of the prophecy of the end of time. especially this day and age how wars are breaking out, people promising they can save a country, to a Earth Federation.

what honestly worries me about obama is how easily people voted for him because he promises he can save our country and people are seeing him as the Messiah. now do i think he might be the Anti-Christ yeah honestly do. (may the flaming begin). true a of people did vote for him because he was black and it would of been a glorious day in history for a black president, and people didn't care if he had any experience or not. i hope i am wrong about him but my cut instinct is saying yes and it has never let me down before. anyways discussion for another day.

so yeah Bible is a history book of what happened and what will come. anywho if you think i'm even crazier than that's perfectly fine because i know i am.

[leshinor]

Originally Posted by Zaraki

well said.

i do believe the Bible is real. true man did right it down and translated it but God basically told them through a dream and actually showed them (John the Baptist if memory serves right) of what to write down. Revelations honestly has to be one of my favorite books because of the prophecy of the end of time. especially this day and age how wars are breaking out, people promising they can save a country, to a Earth Federation.

what honestly worries me about obama is how easily people voted for him because he promises he can save our country and people are seeing him as the Messiah. now do i think he might be the Anti-Christ yeah honestly do. (may the flaming begin). true a of people did vote for him because he was black and it would of been a glorious day in history for a black president, and people didn't care if he had any experience or not. i hope i am wrong about him but my cut instinct is saying yes and it has never let me down before. anyways discussion for another day.

so yeah Bible is a history book of what happened and what will come. anywho if you think i'm even crazier than that's perfectly fine because i know i am.

Well, you might argue if Obama is better or worse than McCain but calling him the Anti-Christ is taking a bit too far! lol
Besides, how worse can he be from Bush???

[soulten]

Originally Posted by JesiGash

Blah, blah, blah.....etc.

However, God loved us so incredibly much that He didn't want us to die so He sent Jesus His Son. Believe it or not, but Jesus is God in the Flesh. I know what you're thinking, "Wait they killed God?!" And yeah, they did (or thought they did: they killed His earthly body). However, God wanted to prove that He has power over "death". So He rose again. No, He's not a zombie that wants us to symbolically eat His flesh. If He's the all powerful God (which He is), then it stands to reason that He cannot die(which He can't). Makes since.
Now a guy just takes a bullet for you. Would you not love that guy forever? I mean seriously this stranger just died to save you! I don't care who you are, you'd love Him. You'd have to!

blah, blah, blah.....etc.

No, Jesus is not some zombie. He is an awesome God who proved His love for us by paying the price for our sins AND conquering the power and fear of death.

Define Zombie: Human corpse brought back to life.
God in the flesh means he is a human, no?
We killed him, he was dead.
Define dead: not showing characteristics of life especially the capacity to sustain life.
He rose again. That would mean he came back to life.
Pretty much sums up a zombie to me.

For the he(god) can not die. You would be referring to the spirit/soul(if that exists). Spirit/soul has nothing whatsoever do with the transformation of a zombie. If you are considered dead for longer that a day you are probably dead, come back to life miraculously after that you are a zombie, be it you are back to your old conciseness or not. You are still a re-animated corpse i.e. ZOMBIE!

I wouldn't.

[minato2085]

Originally Posted by atomsk

yup its real
and everything it says is true

well i can't say but it's sometimes right & wrong at some points...

[SmokedBoo]

Like how you used KJV.
"Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." (Revelation 14:12, KJV)
By the way, what's your denomination and stance on the trinity doctrine?