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Now here's a wake up call to the noggin.

I agree, but only to a certain extent. I think lee's statement that nothing is created but only discovered only works for naturally occuring phenomena, like the theory of relativity. all naturally occuring things in nature/science, like the equations and all, have always existed, yes. We know that Sir Isaac Newton did not invent gravity, it was always there. same with medicine. it is all yet to be discovered. but what about inventions? we all know that sketches cars and helicopters and submarines were first found in Da Vinci's books, but then again, doesn't that mean that he created them? they did not exist before that time. you cannot find any knowledge of automobiles or the like in the time of Marcus Aurelius or anytime before the Renaissance.
We know that Benjamin Franklin did not invent electricity, for electricity was always there, but can't we give Carl Djerassi the credit for the birth control pill?