[Russkie]

Originally Posted by leerock89

I had the same thought a couple days after the event. I mean, come on! America has some of the best defense in the known world, along with some of the best communication, and secret services. To sit there and tell me that they didn't see a plane coming directly into the city in that manner is a bunch of bs. And all the events that followed afterwords were, just as was mentioned, a game of sick chess. The maneuvering and placements of our troops, the ousting of a sovereign nation, and reelection of a president, and a law that is a slap on the basic civic rights that we fought so hard for. America is slowly turning into a police state with a taste for socialism and, I fear, imperialism, which is not to far away...remind anyone of another long past civilization?

Originally Posted by a2ng0d

I hope not. But whether or not you liked the people who say these things, well that's kinda personal. So it's always safe to drop the subject before it gets too hot.

@ Lee: it's not just the fact that they didn't notice the planes that day, it's that we were aware of the threats several months before.

I'm just wondering, but have any of you every been in a flight controll tower? I have, and you should know the tracking systems are a real mess. There are thousands of planes landing, taking off, and in the air all at the same time. If you've ever seen a one of those big screen maps of America with all the little dots representing aircraft, you would notice how crazy and chaotic it can be to track them all.