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CryticX 09-20-2009 04:04 AM

Beat your kids!
 
http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-Child-...elps&id=145557

I am just wondering why so many parents are pussies and say "go to your room" fuck it, Kids today need a good beating every now and then. If you don't beat your kids when they fall out of line, the next thing you know your son will go off and bang some hooker in the ass. You own your kids, that's what I believe so stop eating their shit and smack them. What will they do? Don't agree with me? eat me. Kids need to learn, little pussy parents don't need to listen to their children's opinions, fuck their opinion. Parents own. I'm 18, my parents raised me with a beating (or at least threat of one) - you'll thank me later if you don't understand, if you don't, then you still think you're right and a immature 16 fuckmuppet that just aced his second Algebra test, congratulations dumbass. I hate the news about parents getting in trouble for beating their kids, those kids probably pissed them off 60% of the time (I understand real abuse). I'm right you're wrong and that's why America is becoming stupid - the whole "Opinion" thing - kids should ask one time if the parent says no, means no and if they bug you break a PVC pipe on their little prissy back (not in a literal sense). If your parents are liberals who cares? then still listen to them the point is PARENTS OWN YOUR ASS. These news stories and articles piss me off.

fazenda 09-20-2009 06:30 AM

erm are you talking about beating your kids for something, or giving them spankings for something, because that a huge difference. the article only talks of beating, and they probably had someone with some type training in human behavior read it over so that people who see it will just see it as completely horrible and not think twice.

And yes some people would argue that spanking is beating, but if you slap a child, their is no way that could be considered spanking because it is beating and that is the image that they meant for you to see wen they wrote the article.

CryticX 09-20-2009 01:48 PM

If you read the article carefully as I did (otherwise I wouldn't have written such a fabulous topic) you will notice that the fag that wrote it put "majority" of parents and many schools (private I'm guessing) still punish by beating, and I don't think a majority of parents "beat" their children in an abusive way. The fag that wrote it used the word beat instead of spank to make it so "inhuman" and "mean". Beating and spanking were the same definition until crocbutters like that "behavior" specialist twisted it to be different. BEATING and SPANKING is the same, don't agree? Here's an example - "Son, if you don't listen to me I'll beat you with a belt" ...nuff said.

Zaraki 09-20-2009 02:55 PM

still someone will take it the wrong way and will say you're abusing. i'm all for getting the paddle or belt out to punish a kid who did something that they know they shouldn't have. just a light slap won't do anything. spanking is supposed to hurt, i was a little devil back then and would get slapped pretty hard by a belt or paddle. eventually i got the idea that what i was doing was wrong and didn't want to be at the wrong end of the paddle or belt. so saying it doesn't work is ludicrous.

quietchat 09-20-2009 04:49 PM

Well, first off, I'd like to go on the record and say that with how you're acting, it seems like the beating did shit, so that's one right there against your logic.

Second off, I was raised in a house where my opinion mattered, was considered, and I never once did anything that required being punished, and you'd never know me on the street from what you see here. No beatings for me, no behavior issues, no begging, whining, yelling, nothing. So, two against beating.

Third, I can easily find a number of articles that say spankings and punishment do shit, and do worse than shit by giving you what you thought you were stopping. In fact....

http://parentingmethods.suite101.com...shing_children

http://www.caslondon.on.ca/helping-f...t-hit-children

http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9708/14/nfm.spanking/

http://www.askdrsears.com/html/6/T062100.asp

http://www.kidsource.com/kidsource/c...ing.morph.html

As for the spanking = abusing debate, no, spanking is not abusing if it doesn't hurt the child. If you go and slap them, yeah, I'll kick your ass. You don't need to go about being violent to your kids.

CryticX 09-20-2009 06:21 PM

Allow me to say again my mediocre little friend, I never said slapping and frankly beating = spanking (the context is the clue). Hell, I grew up to be a obedient child and I grew up to be a respectable part of society. Your argument "it did shit", your personal opinion is as flawed as the next because I was never beaten and how I'm acting is correctly. Your "opinion" is probably "can we go eat somewhere?" or "I think Obama stinks" what I referred to is "I don't want to take out the trash, it stinks" that opinion is not to be even considered, whiny bastards. I never said violent, a good spanking (good beating) is necessary - not all kids grow up little angels like you dear sir. At those articles, I believe they would be a waste of time to read either way because it's the same parents who think the kid is as respectable as a grown adult. Spanking is healthy when necessary, sure, listen to your kids but PARENTS OWN YOU, get over it. You're wrong your parents RULE you, listen to them, disobey them multiple times - get a spanking. Simple as that.

How I'm acting ,huh? And what would that be? does it make you grit your teeth of some of my comments, I was never punished by beating because I never needed one. Your "social" rules may have been violated by my "rant", but did I in anything that I write suggest that "it did shit"? A rant is a rant and this is the internet, my friend. Social etiquette is for the posing suckup.

Are you saying spanking isn't suppose to hurt? Seriously? Are we to tap them lightly on the ass? What is a spanking then? I don't see the logic if the child does it over and over again and you tried "grounding", but it doesn't work. I would spank the kid, it is correct. Perhaps since you were never even punished your opinion is not to be appreciated. I was threatened by spanking, it was enough for me.

CryticX 09-20-2009 08:39 PM

My point exactly, when a beating or spanking (damn social faux pas) is necessary then do it, be consistent. I believe spanking in good for 7-13 maybe 14 age group is needed. These stories of people saying "My mother beat me, that's why I'm crazy" - I laugh at them. Kids go crazy because they weren't raised correctly or they go off without notice. Beating is all in the context, I just named it for the sake of attracting good arguments of which many failed. Shit Pastry arguments are terrible.

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analogZero 09-20-2009 11:51 PM

Well your article is rather biased to begin with. It makes a lot of assumptions at human psychology with nothing to back it up.
That said though, the thought of beating children to set them straight is rather lazy in and of itself. It's a fast attempt at getting a child to behave, and often the act of a parent who doesn't want to put forth the effort toward proper care of their child.
Parents tend to act in the heat of the moment, and it can hardly be blamed of many individuals to make rash decisions on the spot to keep their kids in line. It's the ones that are extreme that need to be weeded out and put under the hot lamp. Anything from physical violence to yelling just shows ignorance and lack of control on the parents behalf. Yet, that's the route many parents choose to take, because it's a simple reactionary impulse. The kid does something out of line, and you get angry. Projecting that anger onto them is a quick fix at best. Quick fixes being known for their instability being in harmony with their immediate effectiveness. As a result, it's no wonder that kids portray erratic development.
Now what if in every situation such as this, the parent took the effort to control their nerves and make a proper assessment of the situation? To make a rational and just punishment equivalent to the damage done? It's fair to say that punishments are required; that from mistakes the child learns the value of consequence. It's when we leave it to instinct or leave our reactions to quick fixes (eg. what our parents did to us) that we lose sight of our reason and act out of impulse; instilled or not.
I'll stand middle ground in the end, that consequence and punishment are vital to proper development, but to base these punishments on violent retribution or primal reaction is rather feeble-minded and monstrous.

CryticX 09-21-2009 12:21 AM

I never suggested quick fix. Consistency and proper punishment, a spanking can be a good punishment. Spur of the moment would probably be abuse anyway. I don't have assumption as I read hundreds of articles, but for people like you let me cut down my topic in one sentence since it's hard to understand.

"Most parents COMPLETELY discourage spanking" and I don't believe spanking (or disciplinary beating) should be completely rejected. Some offenses require different punishments. Don't agree? eat me.

fazenda 09-21-2009 01:15 AM

This said it much better than I could have.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryticX (Post 195887)
I never suggested quick fix. Consistency and proper punishment, a spanking can be a good punishment. Spur of the moment would probably be abuse anyway. I don't have assumption as I read hundreds of articles, but for people like you let me cut down my topic in one sentence since it's hard to understand.

"Most parents COMPLETELY discourage spanking" and I don't believe spanking (or disciplinary beating) should be completely rejected. Some offenses require different punishments. Don't agree? eat me.



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