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fejknick
11-30-2008, 12:10 PM
This is something that should happen all over the world. (http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/560/switzerland_vote_marijuana_decriminalization_heroi n_maintenance) <---- CLICK for info.

What's you thoughts? Have you ever tried? Are you smoking frequently?

aa32wa
11-30-2008, 01:50 PM
Magic mushies are now banned in the Netherlands...

fejknick
11-30-2008, 01:55 PM
Magic mushies are now banned in the Netherlands...

Yeah i know.
But they give you pills that fuck's you up if you don't feel happy.

aa32wa
11-30-2008, 02:14 PM
haha i think you can get dingers in most countries lol...

fejknick
11-30-2008, 02:15 PM
haha i think you can get dingers in most countries lol...

If you know the right people you can get anything. ;)

hsb39
12-02-2008, 06:19 AM
I've never done drugs, but I think that they should be decriminalised at the very least, that way what's actually in the drug can be controlled more. I have been told personally (by someone who is on the forum, although I do not know the username) that I especially should never take drugs, due to an addictive personality.

fejknick
12-02-2008, 06:27 AM
I've never done drugs, but I think that they should be decriminalised at the very least, that way what's actually in the drug can be controlled more. I have been told personally (by someone who is on the forum, although I do not know the username) that I especially should never take drugs, due to an addictive personality.

As long as you know the difference between a drug and a plant your fine.
A drug is chemicals and shit, what grows in nature is something else. If you want me to go in to this whole drug conspiracy then i could. But id rather just make it so much more obvious:

During 2001, 54,847 men and 20918 women, a total of 75,766 people died Alcohol related deaths.
And thats just the states. And you add it up and its allot of people all over the world every year.

Not 1 death is ever recorded under mans time on earth from marijuana. It has the potential to cure almost any disease from what the scientists say. THC (The active chemical in marijuana/hemp) is still a enigma for scientists and they are currently giving it to cancer patients in some states, and if it were such a horrible death-drug as they said during the "reefer madness" era, then why the fuck do they give it to people in great pain?

I have allot of info on this subject if you want to know anything else. I can elaborate and stuff. :)

hsb39
12-02-2008, 06:38 AM
As long as you know the difference between a drug and a plant your fine.
A drug is chemicals and shit, what grows in nature is something else. If you want me to go in to this whole drug conspiracy then i could. But id rather just make it so much more obvious:

During 2001, 54,847 men and 20918 women, a total of 75,766 people died Alcohol related deaths.
And thats just the states. And you add it up and its allot of people all over the world every year.

Not 1 death is ever recorded under mans time on earth from marijuana. It has the potential to cure almost any disease from what the scientists say. THC (The active chemical in marijuana/hemp) is still a enigma for scientists and they are currently giving it to cancer patients in some states, and if it were such a horrible death-drug as they said during the "reefer madness" era, then why the fuck do they give it to people in great pain?

I have allot of info on this subject if you want to know anything else. I can elaborate and stuff. :)

It does have those annoying side effects of addiction and an increased rate of mental illness (and I have a history of mental illness in the family). It certainly isn't as bad as cigarrettes or alchohol, but it is still bad.

fejknick
12-02-2008, 06:46 AM
It does have those annoying side effects of addiction and an increased rate of mental illness (and I have a history of mental illness in the family). It certainly isn't as bad as cigarrettes or alchohol, but it is still bad.

Well, its not as bad as they say, and THC has no addictive side effect what so ever. What happens is that everything is better when you smoke/eat it so the "real" world is more... dull. And you might want to smoke all the time.
The thing about mental illness is right thou, and i'm kinda shocked to hear you say that you know why not to. Not many people have that insight. What the y don't say is that you have to smoke daily for about 20 years before the problems arouse to the degree that you might feel depressed.
But if you have in the family, stay the fuck away from alcohol. :)

EDIT: often its the tobacco you mix in with the weed so it burns better that makes you addictive. So its nicotine, not THC.

hsb39
12-02-2008, 06:52 AM
Well, its not as bad as they say, and THC has no addictive side effect what so ever. What happens is that everything is better when you smoke/eat it so the "real" world is more... dull. And you might want to smoke all the time.
The thing about mental illness is right thou, and i'm kinda shocked to hear you say that you know why not to. Not many people have that insight. What the y don't say is that you have to smoke daily for about 20 years before the problems arouse to the degree that you might feel depressed.
But if you have in the family, stay the fuck away from alcohol. :)

EDIT: often its the tobacco you mix in with the weed so it burns better that makes you addictive. So its nicotine, not THC.

Anything that changes your body has the ability for your body to become dependent on it. Even Lip Cream (trust me on that one). I'm also in no way interested in being drunk or high, I don't get the appeal.

fejknick
12-02-2008, 06:55 AM
Anything that changes your body has the ability for your body to become dependent on it. Even Lip Cream (trust me on that one). I'm also in no way interested in being drunk or high, I don't get the appeal.


Im with you on that one. I just think its sad when they lie to the public.
And yeah, i had one of those eras last year, lip stuff is sick. especially when its vanilla flavored. *droooooool*

hsb39
12-02-2008, 07:02 AM
Im with you on that one. I just think its sad when they lie to the public.
And yeah, i had one of those eras last year, lip stuff is sick. especially when its vanilla flavored. *droooooool*

Yeah the "ends justify the means" stuff is just BS. And the marajuana supports terrorism stuff must have been aimed for people high at the time.

And the lip cream thing is more that my lips don't produce moisture because they are used to lip cream.

fejknick
12-02-2008, 07:07 AM
Yeah the "ends justify the means" stuff is just BS. And the marajuana supports terrorism stuff must have been aimed for people high at the time.

And the lip cream thing is more that my lips don't produce moisture because they are used to lip cream.

Yeah, hahaha.

Wow, can that really happen if you use it to often? :O
Never heard of it thou.
Does it hurt in any kind of way?

lee matsu
12-02-2008, 07:09 AM
what do you think ??? http://www.top-10.us/Bob-Marley.jpg

hsb39
12-02-2008, 07:12 AM
Yeah, hahaha.

Wow, can that really happen if you use it to often? :O
Never heard of it thou.
Does it hurt in any kind of way?


I didn't use it for two days and my lips became purple and as big as my nose, but that hasn't happened for years. I always have it on me.

leerock89
12-02-2008, 07:18 AM
Hey fejnick if you look in this subforum you will find my multiple stands on drug use and legalization. To put it basically you can call me a connoisseur of the drug world, name it and I've either tried it or have tried something close to it. As for marijuana it is my absolute favorite pastime. It was the first drug I ever tried and it is still something I do on a daily. Now, like any other thing in life, you must to it in moderation for it is truly the gateway drug and it can royally screw up your life if you don't watch it. As for legalizing it I'm all for it but it will take some doing. The only way I see it getting accepted worldwide is if it reaches the status alcohol has in our world. Other then that good luck! On a side note, marijuana is the number one grown substance in America, beating corn and wheat by a scale of 3 to 1. Funny how that works even though its a banned substance.

Oh and as for everything else here's my stand. DON'T TOUCH CRACK HEROIN OR PCP. Everything you might as well try if your already doing drugs, just remember, ITS NOT ABOUT CONTROL BUT MODERATION AND RESPONSIBILITY. Enjoy your stay on Earth, don't destroy it.

suune
12-02-2008, 07:23 AM
I'm okay with it as long as it's not being abused. (haha)

fejknick
12-02-2008, 07:26 AM
Hey fejnick if you look in this subforum you will find my multiple stands on drug use and legalization. To put it basically you can call me a connoisseur of the drug world, name it and I've either tried it or have tried something close to it. As for marijuana it is my absolute favorite pastime. It was the first drug I ever tried and it is still something I do on a daily. Now, like any other thing in life, you must to it in moderation for it is truly the gateway drug and it can royally screw up your life if you don't watch it. As for legalizing it I'm all for it but it will take some doing. The only way I see it getting accepted worldwide is if it reaches the status alcohol has in our world. Other then that good luck! On a side note, marijuana is the number one grown substance in America, beating corn and wheat by a scale of 3 to 1. Funny how that works even though its a banned substance.

Oh and as for everything else here's my stand. DON'T TOUCH CRACK HEROIN OR PCP. Everything you might as well try if your already doing drugs, just remember, ITS NOT ABOUT CONTROL BUT MODERATION AND RESPONSIBILITY. Enjoy your stay on Earth, don't destroy it.

Ill check that out. Too put it in the best possible way: pheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeew. I thought i was the only "stoner" in here, and then i find one with a brain. Thats way more then i had set out to find. But yeah, i've done em all. I've snorted, smoked, swallowed, or injected almost every substance known as a drug. (It was during a period of my life when i wanted to never have existed. I didn't wanna die, i wanted to never have existed.) And its the same here, i don't touch anything else than weed / hashish as of now. It... makes the world go round for me. Makes everything i don't want to do bearable. And if it helps me live my life the way i want to live it without fucking me up as much as alcohol or any other drug does, then ill use it even if they say its illegal.

But my one drug of all is coffee. After that THC (I say THC since i smoke it if it has THC in it. But i prefer weed or a really strong hashish.)

And yeah, stay in school and all of that.

(I have an estimated iq in the levels of Einstein, that made me sick as fuck in the head, and weed saved my life. So yeah.)

EDIT: The moral of this is: don't do drugs, don't do an iq test if you think that you might be smart as fuck, they want you to work with fucked up things. And the most important of all: Just as wonderful as a drug can be, just as hazardous it can be.

leerock89
12-02-2008, 07:49 AM
Oh the days of our youth, when everything was fresh and new and every experience was epic and tragic. I am happy that I was able to experience everything the way I did, even though some things I wish I had never done, but all in all it has been a rather interesting life so far and I still got some more then a few years to go of mayhem and and mischief before I fall over dead from something or other(hopefully).

As for that feeling of being the only stoner here I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN!! I swear there ain't no one here but kids who stay at home and watch anime after school.... well thats expected from an anime site. But still no one else talks about doing it or anything like that. I do know like 1 or 2 people who used to but they said they stopped, leaving me the only one here until you showed up.

One of the hard lessons I learned was education. It should be a very important aspect in everyone's life. When your parents say you need to go to school they aren't saying that to just get rid of you, they are saying that CAUSE ITS THAT IMPORTANT. I regret stopping my college years to go out and party and now I face years of really really really hard work just to catch up. BIGGEST REGRET YET!! Stay in school kids and stay away from drugs!!!

fejknick
12-02-2008, 08:02 AM
Yeah, i feel just like that. Im happy for everything i've learned and experienced with drugs. But i know that some of the things i did was on the edge, and i was about to fall 2 times, and still i got up on the horse and smashed it on the ass so i could run faster. But as you said, it was back in the days. And just by experimenting with drugs make you see allot of problems in the world that you would never have experienced otherwise in a normal life.
And one of the best memories i have from all of the drugs are all the afterglows, just sitting on a mountain and watching the sun set and thinking some really deep thoughts, or just trying to get back to who i am and what the hell this thing called gravity is. ^^

Yeah, i was really worried there for some time, but then i noticed the forum on the bottom of the page and i took 1 + 1 and it made 2. ^^ Stoners are stoners, you can take a stoner from japan and put him with an american stoner, they would get along just fine. Take a stoner from Sweden and put him with a stoner from Australia and the would get along. But yeah, stoners are stoners. :)

And yeah, school and education is really important. BUT, i do want to say this if someone is reading and thinking: not everything in school is right. If i had to teach a class something it would be critical thinking and to be logical as long as they can. If it sounds like bullshit, then it most of the times is bullshit. And everything you learn in school you can learn in the library or on the internet. The thing is that you need a paper on that you know it. So school is the governments way to knowing that you don't know to much or don't think to much. You know what you're supposed to know.

leerock89
12-02-2008, 08:15 AM
So, I might as well ask, what was your favorite hard drug? For me tis the happy happy pill commonly known as ECSTASY.

fejknick
12-02-2008, 08:23 AM
So, I might as well ask, what was your favorite hard drug? For me tis the happy happy pill commonly known as ECSTASY.

Haha, E is fine, but i was more of a psychonaout. LSD, 2C-B and some benzo to sleep on when you land. But if i have to choose one drug, its weed as soft and as a hard drug LSD. I've had the most fun with her. :)

But lets put it this way, it it was me and 2 girls in a tent in a forrest..... then fuck all drugs, just give me the E. When i tried synthetic MDMA and DMT it took to hard thou. That blew me to the other side of the universe. After that i didn't dare to touch anything that had MDMA in it, when it was the DMT i should be afraid of. But yeah, if its anyone from the opposite sex there, E is the way to go.

I think i could find a pic of me at sensation white drugged out of my ass with a spider man mask on me. And yes, i can prove that its me on the pic because i have the mask here. ^^

aa32wa
12-02-2008, 08:45 AM
Haha, E is fine, but i was more of a psychonaout. LSD, 2C-B and some benzo to sleep on when you land. But if i have to choose one drug, its weed as soft and as a hard drug LSD. I've had the most fun with her. :)

But lets put it this way, it it was me and 2 girls in a tent in a forrest..... then fuck all drugs, just give me the E. When i tried synthetic MDMA and DMT it took to hard thou. That blew me to the other side of the universe. After that i didn't dare to touch anything that had MDMA in it, when it was the DMT i should be afraid of. But yeah, if its anyone from the opposite sex there, E is the way to go.

I think i could find a pic of me at sensation white drugged out of my ass with a spider man mask on me. And yes, i can prove that its me on the pic because i have the mask here. ^^

its quite rare that i find someone describing themselves as a psychonaut... it would be interesting exchanging experiences with you lol...

i don't dabble too much with that too much these days though... but theres always a chance for a comeback haha...

the whole drug thing if fine if you have the right personality for it. i've seen users go through years without any problems but i've seen people get flushed down the toilet...

what do you think of nitrous oxide?

fejknick
12-02-2008, 08:54 AM
its quite rare that i find someone describing themselves as a psychonaut... it would be interesting exchanging experiences with you lol...

i don't dabble too much with that too much these days though... but theres always a chance for a comeback haha...

the whole drug thing if fine if you have the right personality for it. i've seen users go through years without any problems but i've seen people get flushed down the toilet...

what do you think of nitrous oxide?

NO2 Boost you into space whatever drug you have taken. ;)

And we could talk allot if you have called yourself that anytime in your life. Thats the whole point with psychonaoting, its like a spacewalk, you might do it once, but you'll remember it for the rest of you life.

And i don't do any of those drugs right now. Im going to do some Ayuascha soon thou.

Im open about this subject, but if you want to be private we could change mail?

Proto
12-02-2008, 04:29 PM
No offense to all those who smoke Marijuana, but that stuff over time can make you one lazy, careless person, i know due to experience, a lot of people at first trying marijuana out usually are always in groups and socializing with others, but as i said overtime there are quite a few who start smoking up alone and abusing the drug, and start being lazy, and careless.

by experience, i really meant i know a lot of people who abused the drug and started to become anti social, and those people are really close to me (brothers) i on the other hand, don't take drugs, neither will i consume "Natural" drugs. lol

fejknick
12-03-2008, 12:53 PM
No offense to all those who smoke Marijuana, but that stuff over time can make you one lazy, careless person, i know due to experience, a lot of people at first trying marijuana out usually are always in groups and socializing with others, but as i said overtime there are quite a few who start smoking up alone and abusing the drug, and start being lazy, and careless.

by experience, i really meant i know a lot of people who abused the drug and started to become anti social, and those people are really close to me (brothers) i on the other hand, don't take drugs, neither will i consume "Natural" drugs. lol

To much of any thing is destructive.

But yeah, some people take it to a place were its not meant to be. But most stoners as we speak of are people that need it to function in the messed up society.

I smoke like....2 joints in one day maybe. Sometimes more. But when i have shit to do, ill stay of it and get my ass up. Im not laying around and not doing anything.