The End of the Internet as We Know It?

[a2ng0d]

This is outrageous. I am depressed and very angry to hear such news, but apparently the internet as we know it ends in 2012. So I am doing my best to spread the word so we can maybe stand up against this. For all of you who know Athene "Best Pally in the World", this is what he and his team have to report.

Now, Since this video was released in June, I am not sure what updates may or may not have been made to the original plan. Having said that, I'd like to hear some opinions, and if anyone has information on the matter at all, please share.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2XPiqhN_Ns

[Holly-Sama]

I don't believe this. The world itself is supposed to end in 2012 also.

This is Y2K all over again. Let's just see what happens.

[a2ng0d]

If you would think about this from an alternative standpoint to where the world does NOT end in 2012; this is still a major problem. All you entertainment...manga, anime (yes including this site), forums, maybe PRON (yes that counts as entertainment). all those non-mainstream websites that don't get supported by the package you buy; you will have to pay xtra for. and if you don't feel like paying, these sites will not get visited. That means taht all the websites like this one that are dependent on visitors clicking ads will have to shut down. No one wants to continue to maintain a website with money out their pockets when no one is even visiting....

[Ryuuzaki]

Actually, I'm going with that this is not real. My main reason that this isn't, is because it's coming from Athene.

[quietchat]

I agree with Ryuu. I came in here thinking he was talking about the dwindling amount of internet space and how we're running out of viable website url names so we'd be using .corn or .game or somthing like that at the end.

[a2ng0d]

Well you may have a point, but after talking to some people in the IT field, they say it is believable that companies may be doing this because of the worldwide internet crash that is calculated to be around that time. So many people are using the net now that experts estimate a global server overload and crash, in 2012. From a business standpoint, monopolizing the internet like this would be a logical approach to the problem.

So the point is, they have some credibility in their statement. But i will be reading more into it, so tune in.

[leerock89]

I had this elaborate thing all wrote out, then I saw the video. Did anyone notice how there were 4 guys and 1 girl and all the guys looked like lonely losers and the woman looked uncomfortable? I can't take this seriously. Nice try.

[Ryuuzaki]

I had this elaborate thing all wrote out, then I saw the video. Did anyone notice how there were 4 guys and 1 girl and all the guys looked like lonely losers and the woman looked uncomfortable? I can't take this seriously. Nice try.

You wanna know why she acted like that? It's because of the way Athene treats her. He treats her like shit and calls her "his bitch". The one thing I want to do in my life, is beat the living shit out of that guy...

[cappedkey]

This WILL not happen. If it were to happen everyone would just say to hell with internet. The company's would lose EVERYTHING. Its as simple as that really.

[atomsk]

sry the l33t community would not allow it. these channels will be serverraped. the old internet would survive via ftp's over some kind of dns structure. this gets a phail

[soulten]

Sorry I would not spend extra money to visit sites. And I'm guessing many people won't either. I really can't believe they would do that. I don't think they would gain much profit in it, plus there will be people who will hack it and such, and a lot of boycotting and such.

[a2ng0d]

I agree. One question I have is, who the hell decides all this? It is definitely not American, because this is a monopoly, which is illegal in the states. The only good thing about this is that it prevents a global server overload as less people will use the internet....but honestly i think there is a better way. And yes, if this happens, many people will jsut be like "fuck the internet", but then again, how many of us depend on it? Things like writing blogs on current events and even me writing in this forum will be gone. Our online communities will collapse if we boycott them. They are basically profiting by force, in my opinion, which is a clever business tactic. However it just pisses me off how there is nothing that we can really do to solve the problem, besides spreading the word and hoping someone comes up with something.

[analogZero]

I'd really like to see the plan they've got to actually make this work, because I don't think they can. First off, they wouldn't be able to do something like this legally. To tell a handful of websites that they're allowed to be distributed to people for free, but all the others aren't. why don't we start up slavery again too, that sounds like a real larf. The number of lawsuits alone would grind these gears to a halt. The internet wouldn't be able to grow and that's how the trillions of dollars the internet moves around is able to maintain itself. For example, facebook is going to be gay and stupid to everybody by about 2012, but if there's nothing better that comes along to replace it, well guess what! you're stuck with gay ol' facebook unless you want to pay extra to go to this cool new site. growth will be stunted, and that's the only thing this plan would be good for is to put a leash on the internet.
The other monkey wrench that I could easily see happening is that it'll just make itself an apparent target. It's easy to say that people will notice they're being screwed with, but the people within the system that can f*ck with it, will too. Not just the system but the industry will be near impossible to maintain. If this new found internet isn't hacked with and stolen and rerouted to the point that our new internet provider gets as pissed as the music industry was at napster, they're going to have to deal with an army of underdog internet providers who'll maintain the original system and gorge on the millions of people who are afraid of change. This'll prove a real shit fest if it's true, because there's no way that a majority will put up with it. And if they do, then it'll go the way of cable and people will just start stealing internet in record numbers.

[Corwin]

I think what's more likely is that they will figure a way to tax internet usage, something along the lines of, higher rates for larger bandwidth usage, like some providers already do, but put it on a scale instead of an overage meter. I agree it's complete bullshit that something like this would happen, at least in the here and now, but in 10-12 years it might be possible, although I don't think probable. And let's face it, saying ppl will hack their way around anything they set up is a moot point, that already happens, how many ppl on the internet don't pay for internet service, how many have limited bandwidth service, but get 2-4x the bandwidth they are allocated? They might try it, or just be using this to gauge public opinion, besides, the could still do something like this is China for instance, they could lock down the servers, and deny access from IP's outside of China, thereby gaining their monopoly and lowering costs.

[Dragon_Of_]

This is outrageous. I am depressed and very angry to hear such news, but apparently the internet as we know it ends in 2012. So I am doing my best to spread the word so we can maybe stand up against this. For all of you who know Athene "Best Pally in the World", this is what he and his team have to report.

Now, Since this video was released in June, I am not sure what updates may or may not have been made to the original plan. Having said that, I'd like to hear some opinions, and if anyone has information on the matter at all, please share.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2XPiqhN_Ns

i've heard about this before, and it is very depressing, but it could just be a conspiracy theory, who knows, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's true

all i know is if that indeed does happen i'm not gonna use the internet anymore... i pay 41.95 a month already, which imo is redicuals, i'm not paying anymore for internet, especiallly with limitations on it.

[am0184]

I don't believe the internet will end, but if it does I'm gonna go demonic APE$H!T on someone till it comes back:mad:

[partyprobe]

Do not worry I am not going to die or end. I shall live on till the end of time becuase I am the all mighty INTERNET here me make weird noise at you through your computer.

[lemonek]

Zombie networks attack! Untold numbers of enslaved PCs are waiting to do the bidding of shadowy hackers. Matt Sergeant of MessageLabs puts the size of the Storm botnet at between five and 10 million machines (though others peg the size of the network at much less.) Today, bots fill our inboxes with spam. But in the past, they’ve been used to take out companies and countries and to blackmail sites. In the end, it’s an arms race in which only one side has to play by the rules.

[a2ng0d]

@ AnalogZero: Technically, you are correct...if this took place in the United States. But these ISPs, the Internet, is not American. It is a world wide thing. Monopoly is against the law in America, but US Jurisdiction does not cover this, therefore nothing is illegal here.

Also, for those of you who didn't watch closely, it's not like SOME sites are going to be FREE. You buy a PACKAGE of mainstream websites for a set price each month, just like you'd buy PACKAGE of channels on cable. Each website= a channel, so to speak. therefore, to visit "extra channels", you'd need to pay more, and tbh, no one is gonna do that. I didn't say this was the end of the Internet...just the end of it as we know it, because of the fact that the internet is still there...just the way ISPs connect to the net will completely change. Either way, I do think that any plans to prevent this are futile, unless it goes political. Perhaps we can convince a politician to stop this change in THIS country, which goes to arcose's statement. Did Obama really say he is going to help prevent this? I'm skeptical, because (NOT TO TURN THIS THREAD INTO A POLITICAL DEBATE; I WILL BE SO PISSED) I honestly do not believe a lot of the things Obama has said in the past.

[atomsk]

one of my favorite chapters in one of my funnest books, 55 ways to have fun with google, is named what would you do without google
that sums it up

[leerock89]

I say we burn it to the ground!! That's right burn internet!!! It doesn't deserve to live!!

[analogZero]

Google and all other search engines would be in for trouble in this case too. being able to surf through a 'free' search engine it this case would turn into nothing more than window shopping. "oh that site looks nice, but I'd better see what else there is before I throw my money away". This is bad business for search engines and a headache for web optimization. It would dampen SE use plain and simple, and I'd love to see google say 'sure just dig a hatchet into our business, by all means'. messenger programs and software updating would be restricted as well?
And with a near myriad of sites to choose from, who's to say what you'd get from a package deal. Do executives really think they can choose from an endless supply of websites to determine what's best for the consumer? Even if you were to look at mainstream sites it would still overwhelm the options available to television in creating bundles and packages.
Point being somebody has to implement these restrictions and that organization is not immune to legal or political pressure. If you're in america and your service provider says your site is 'pay-per-view' you can legally attack the service provider. This would have to be a government run operation and in order to do that they'd have to act as a semi-dictatorship in order to make this work. I'm sorry, but it seems like something a bunch of hippy nerds would talk about in some random dude's backyard. I'm all for conspiracy theories, but this just doesn't seem logical for me as it is.

[Bee_Chan]

I guess everyone will just have to wait and see what happened in the year 2012.
If we all die, *shrug* we die?

[BlueSano]

one thing is for sure IF this really happened... the libraries will be PACKED !!!!!...... and it is believable at some level .... but the loss would be greater than the gain .... so i don't see why would they do this move..... i mean if it comes to this ... they would lose more than half the world ...and the dites would go down .... especially search engines as some of you have mentioned .... and of course some one will figure out a way to hack it ... or keep the old internet system going .... so why go through all this trouble ?.... i could believe that some of the major sites could release packages or "extra pachages" for ppl who want to have more privilages ...or for some sort of extra sirvice ..while keeping the original "free" site going .. that way they could gain more .... how ever ...if this really happen i would never pay ...and i would look for alternative ways to get my "entertainment" .

[Zaraki]

just sounds like they are trying to stir things up. oh well we will see.

[Dolly]

While I...don't think the world is going to end in 2012, I'm not as skeptical into thinking the internet will undergo some great change in the form of money one way or another. Personally, I find it inevitable sooner or later.

[a2ng0d]

Google and all other search engines would be in for trouble in this case too. being able to surf through a 'free' search engine it this case would turn into nothing more than window shopping. "oh that site looks nice, but I'd better see what else there is before I throw my money away". This is bad business for search engines and a headache for web optimization. It would dampen SE use plain and simple, and I'd love to see google say 'sure just dig a hatchet into our business, by all means'. messenger programs and software updating would be restricted as well?
And with a near myriad of sites to choose from, who's to say what you'd get from a package deal. Do executives really think they can choose from an endless supply of websites to determine what's best for the consumer? Even if you were to look at mainstream sites it would still overwhelm the options available to television in creating bundles and packages.
Point being somebody has to implement these restrictions and that organization is not immune to legal or political pressure. If you're in america and your service provider says your site is 'pay-per-view' you can legally attack the service provider. This would have to be a government run operation and in order to do that they'd have to act as a semi-dictatorship in order to make this work. I'm sorry, but it seems like something a bunch of hippy nerds would talk about in some random dude's backyard. I'm all for conspiracy theories, but this just doesn't seem logical for me as it is.

I also do not find it logical that google and others would submit themselves to that. Well not now, at least.

one thing is for sure IF this really happened... the libraries will be PACKED !!!!!...... and it is believable at some level .... but the loss would be greater than the gain .... so i don't see why would they do this move..... i mean if it comes to this ... they would lose more than half the world ...and the dites would go down .... especially search engines as some of you have mentioned .... and of course some one will figure out a way to hack it ... or keep the old internet system going .... so why go through all this trouble ?.... i could believe that some of the major sites could release packages or "extra pachages" for ppl who want to have more privilages ...or for some sort of extra sirvice ..while keeping the original "free" site going .. that way they could gain more .... how ever ...if this really happen i would never pay ...and i would look for alternative ways to get my "entertainment" .

Well yeah thats the whole point, they want people off the internet. In a previous post, i stated that a friend of mine in the IT field said that the world will undergo a global server crash at this rate of more and more people surfing the web. It makes sense, in a way. If too many people are on at one time, the internet will simply crash, sending businesses and everything else net related into the 9th level of Hell. They are trying to prevent that, so they gotta find a way to reduce the number of people going online, so apparently this is their solution. Like i stated before, it solves one problem, but i think there has to be a better way to stop the supposed 2012 net "crash" without bringing for a 2012 net "restriction".

[analogZero]

Well yeah thats the whole point, they want people off the internet. In a previous post, i stated that a friend of mine in the IT field said that the world will undergo a global server crash at this rate of more and more people surfing the web. It makes sense, in a way. If too many people are on at one time, the internet will simply crash, sending businesses and everything else net related into the 9th level of Hell. They are trying to prevent that, so they gotta find a way to reduce the number of people going online, so apparently this is their solution. Like i stated before, it solves one problem, but i think there has to be a better way to stop the supposed 2012 net "crash" without bringing for a 2012 net "restriction".

So I gotta get into reading books more is what you're saying...

[xXWENWENXx]

as the old internet ends..a better version of internet might come up
but i still can't survive wif out internet
but we onli go 4 yrs to live so "meh.."

[Zaraki]

as the old internet ends..a better version of internet might come up
but i still can't survive wif out internet
but we onli go 4 yrs to live so "meh.."

yeah i heard on g4 a "super internet" was being developed.

[a2ng0d]

So I gotta get into reading books more is what you're saying...

its not what IM saying, its what THEY'RE saying, i guess. i don't agree with this bullcrap one bit, but i am saying i believe it might happen.

[xXWENWENXx]

yeah i heard on g4 a "super internet" was being developed.

wat does it do...
how is it 'super'?

[Zaraki]

wat does it do...
how is it 'super'?

this was back in july but apparently it's going to be faster, more room for web addresses and supposedly "has enough power to produce holographs." i know sounds like bull.

[Pandora]

"You have to pay a little bit extra"- Blonde Idiot who went first.

In all seriousness Corwin has the most logical answer. I could see that happening but not as short of a time as he says. I would say at least 15 years it might start happening. 2012 is called the Mayan year which in the Mayan calender an apocalypse you could call it, is suppose to happen. It could be either good or bad but it's suppose to completely change the world. It's not suppose to be the 'end' of the world. I don't necessarily believe it since you know the whole Y2K thing. Then again, this prediction is suppose to have existed since the Mayans created their calender. Oh, the exact date is suppose to be December 21, 2012.

Here's some information if you feel like reading it.

http://www.13moon.com/prophecy%20page.htm

[Hekittsun]

That 12-21-12 is the day before my mothers birthday 12-22-12 well any way I think that this may happen but then again this may be a load of bull witch it probably is but hey you gotta have something to liven up your life you know ::D: Back to the topic. I have a yes/no opinion on this topic but if it were to happen it would go down pretty soon so I don't think they would go through with it. :dance: I would get mai internet back!!!! YAY XXD :dance: but something cataclismic would happen on 12-21-12 I just have this hunch but if it interferes with my graduateing highschool ill shoot someone! :mad:

[Holly-Sama]

No sense in getting all worked up over something that may not even be true. If it ends up happening, it's not like the government would bring it back just because everyone would get pissed about it. So, yeah.

Oh, and I don't believe in the whole "Mayan Doomsday Prophecy" in 2012 while we're on the subject.

http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/19/no-doomsday-in-2012/

"…when a calendar comes to the end of a cycle, it just rolls over into the next cycle. In our Western society, every year 31 December is followed, not by the End of the World, but by 1 January. So 13.0.0.0.0 in the Mayan calendar will be followed by 0.0.0.0.1 - or good-ol' 22 December 2012, with only a few shopping days left to Christmas." - Excerpt from Dr Karl's "Great Moments in Science".

[Lince]

I'm pretty sure everything is supposed to end every second. ^^
This is how bad roomers get. There's probably a story of the end of the world for every year up to like 3000. :O

[Koopaking]

I think anyone that even gives a fleeting thought that this would ever happen is a buffoon.

[spirit]

I think anyone that even gives a fleeting thought that this would ever happen is a buffoon.There is always some "micro" possibility... but I believe they would come up with something better than internet..... (and probably will) but first we need to wait and see.. : D

[aezgaga]

2012 ? Isn't suppose to be the end of the world ? lol anyway... even if it's not true I wouldn't be suprise that will happen anyway.... If there is a lot money at the end of the line the big company will do it ... Anyway It would be stupid because (like all thing you need to pay) you could find a way to get it free so it would be stupid lol.... It couldn't happen... It would mean no more AF :( sad

[runt32a]

ummm if they do that is the matter then why not create something stronger to counter it you know people design the internet like internet 8 the newest ineternet the last time i check why not create something like a biger and stronger one a way for there to be more room...you can add room to your pc by addin more gig a bite right well why not add more to the internet as it gets taken up...i mean its just an idea but its better then nothing