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shadowmaks
09-29-2008, 03:48 AM
I want this forum to be about how everyone felt about how Code Geass ended. I mean the actual end, the whole series. I know I was touched.

soulten
09-29-2008, 04:03 AM
At the end I wasn't sure if what C.C. said was a hint or just his name.

scotsman
09-29-2008, 06:14 AM
So much i want to say about this episode that i've been talking to myself about it. I'll start with the end. with CC saying his name at the end and close up on the paper bird-thingy i thought that maybe he's the one driving the cart or sitting out of view and he had CC's code before he was stabbed. this is going to turn into a big debate soon i think. Does anyone else think that Lelouch would live in solitude for all of eternity knowing the whole world hates him as a punishment.
It took real guts for Lelouch to deliberately make the whole world hate him, be killed in order to create peace and know that he'll forever be remembered as an evil tyrant. he might be my biggest hero now.
before he was stabbed i've also been wondering what Kallen, Rivalz and Milly(well she really only stood up) were shouting out and a few other things that i can't quite put into words or think clearly about until i re-watch both series'.
on a side note does anyone know what the song was at the end and shouldn't this be under Anime Discussions.

soulten
09-29-2008, 06:21 AM
The song at the end is "Continued Story" By Hitomi

Here's a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmoIaJLjtlM

Viduus
09-29-2008, 09:04 PM
From what I understood, Lelouch hated himself for what he had become and what he had to do to make the future possible, thus it was no surprise to me when his final plan was for him to die. I don't think he would actually plan for himself to still be alive because of that. I think C.C. saying his name at the end was showing her affection and yet sadness that he was gone.

By the way, does anyone else think that the last 5 episodes felt kinda rushed? It almost seemed like there could've been enough there to make an entirely new season...

Felix42
09-29-2008, 09:46 PM
I think this is a classic open ending, like many others series. I won't mention any, because i don't wanna spoil. Anyway, if they are not going to make a sequel it won't matter whether he survived or not, and therefore even the crew which made the story don't necessarily know.
I'm actually wondering, is there a manga too? Then it might tell you

soulten
09-29-2008, 09:48 PM
There is a manga, but I only saw like the first 2 chapters then it just disappeared, and has never been updated if there were new chapters.

newbsrule
09-29-2008, 11:34 PM
sigh.... i wish it hadnt ended and i hope there is more but this is by far the best anime ive ever seen and will ever see. it def set a new standard O.o

krazykandy
09-29-2008, 11:36 PM
holy jesus's mother....i love code geass.....what a twist, so sad that leolouch had to die being hated by everyone minus the few that knew the truth. Yea I really doubt that he got the code from C.C. or there was any hints that he survived being that the britanians were retreating and being the genius strategist that he was planned on letting people see his dead body
so sad, but necessary death
and i definately doubt that they are gonna make another season :weep:

2nd legacy
09-30-2008, 12:00 AM
im curious of what c.c. said in the end

Plun
09-30-2008, 12:14 AM
I was about to take this anime off of my favorites if it haven't been for the ending. Especially when Kallen started narrating. What's bothering me is that they still haven't reveal C.C.'s real name.

Koopaking
09-30-2008, 12:22 AM
Code Geass is one the best animes I have ever seen. It is one the best animes ever made. The ending... was so profound. Code Geass had much deeper themes and messages being conveyed all throughout, and ended in an unfortunate, yet spectacular way.

2nd legacy
09-30-2008, 12:27 AM
a is lelouch still alive because in the end c.c saids right lelouch?? im confused

SinXxX
09-30-2008, 01:09 AM
It was a roller coaster season. It has its ups and downs and yes, I got all dissapointed at some episodes and got all smiles at some others. However, the ending was just magnificent. I was happy at how it end.

R+V Freak
09-30-2008, 01:23 AM
im at least glad this didnt end like death note but ya im wondering what happens now like to C.C and Susaku and such and if lelouch is alive or not

krazykandy
09-30-2008, 01:44 AM
im at least glad this didnt end like death note but ya im wondering what happens now like to C.C and Susaku and such and if lelouch is alive or not

as it seems from the closing scenes susaku is zero being the balance of the world...you know symbol of hope
C.C. seems to be traveling now, as it is shown from past episodes her life was filled as the witch and basically really crappy, and then working for teh organization
as for lelouch i am set on that he is dead and the reason why he said his name out loud was for this whole thing how he changed C.C. life and so it just shows her affection towards him
at least what i think i could be horribly wrong

Razgriz
09-30-2008, 01:59 AM
The way it ended kinda made me think Lelouch was still alive but I don't think so C.C. saying his name could've been out of respect for him.

gunbound15
09-30-2008, 02:33 AM
man if only CC hadn't said what she said at the end, all of us would've been able to accept the fact that lelouch died. but now, too many people keep wondering if he's alive or not. personally, i hope lelouch is alive because he kicks *** but i know he's dead.
still a great ending though, all in favor of code geass being named the best anime ever made so far?

2nd legacy
09-30-2008, 02:36 AM
i thing the guy on the driving the wagon is lelouch? wat u think?

Razgriz
09-30-2008, 02:37 AM
i thing the guy on the driving the wagon is lelouch? wat u think?

I know you can see a small bit of his hair at the end and it was the same color as his don't know if the 2 are related though

2nd legacy
09-30-2008, 02:39 AM
cuz that cud b who c.c was talkn to

Anime_Dude
09-30-2008, 03:20 AM
*sniff* best anime ever!
the ending was very differnet from other animes(in the aspect that it was the best ending ever,for it^^)
and like the other people here,im still wondering if lelouch is still alive(im hopeing he is)
C.C. really messed it up for us

Viduus
09-30-2008, 03:24 AM
*sniff* best anime ever!
the ending was very differnet from other animes(in the aspect that it was the best ending ever,for it^^)
and like the other people here,im still wondering if lelouch is still alive(im hopeing he is)
C.C. really messed it up for usI think it would cheapen the show if Lelouch was still alive. His death was the one honest thing he did without using the power of geass.

Anime_Dude
09-30-2008, 03:29 AM
I think it would cheapen the show if Lelouch was still alive. His death was the one honest thing he did without using the power of geass.

yeah it would,but it would be cool if he cameback as somebody else
like he dressed different or acted different

mx7775
09-30-2008, 04:47 AM
I agree, It would be really messed up of lelouch to be alive cause he place the burden on susaku when he told him what he had to look forward to as zero.And for him to just get off the hook from doing his part to repay or atone for all his evil by just becoming immortal and skipping town with cc to some far as land to live happily while susaku is stuck being zero and while feeling responsible for killing him. But part of me still wants him to be alive. maybe he did that thing mariam or whaterver his moms name is, which she used to transfer herself into someone elses body.

drgnby002
09-30-2008, 07:45 AM
It is possible that lelouch could be alive. Not saying he is or not. But you never know, the thing C.C. said at the end of the series kind of left it open. You also have to consider what happened to the other code. Many people believe that he got v.v. code from his father when his father grabbed him with that hand without him knowing it? Because his father was immortal and all, and the world of C accepted what lelouch said, So it is possible it passed him the code. Just my guess.

scotsman
09-30-2008, 02:17 PM
re-watched the first few episodes and it's already made things more confusing. why did Nunnally get a flash of Lelouch's memories when she touched him, since the same thing happened to Lelouch when he touch CC for the first time, does it have something to do with the code or am i thinking to much?

Plun
09-30-2008, 03:49 PM
http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/PlunC/GIFS/CGEND.gif?t=1222789745

Felix42
09-30-2008, 05:13 PM
Yeah it has something to do with the Geass. It happened for CC and Anya a couple of times and CC and Lelouch a few more times as well.

DRGNBY002, that sounds a little far-fetched to me. Anyway there are the possibility that the driver is lelouch, even though his hair is gray while lelouches is black. Lelouch would prob be carrying a wig with his possible disguise.
Personally i decided he didn't survive, and i sure hope there won't be a 3rd season. I couldn't imagine a meaningful way to continue the story.

krazykandy
09-30-2008, 06:20 PM
Yeah it has something to do with the Geass. It happened for CC and Anya a couple of times and CC and Lelouch a few more times as well.

DRGNBY002, that sounds a little far-fetched to me. Anyway there are the possibility that the driver is lelouch, even though his hair is gray while lelouches is black. Lelouch would prob be carrying a wig with his possible disguise.
Personally i decided he didn't survive, and i sure hope there won't be a 3rd season. I couldn't imagine a meaningful way to continue the story.

agreed if they were to continue the series it would be pointless and belittle how great teh series is
seriously the world is all happy and peaceful...and what? lelouch comes back and is like time to screw with all of you again....evil laugh, it would piss off everyone
after seeing plun's little video post i agree looks like lelouch....but i stick with my belief he died
though i would like to point out that i just rewatched the final episode and i am curious because the AF video doesnt actually show the drivers face it just pans the egde of teh hat before cuttign to C.C.
furthermore even how complex lelouch's plan was to you know die and make peace with the world, alot of people knew about teh plan or fiureed it out really easily

Viduus
09-30-2008, 06:42 PM
after seeing plums little video post i agree looks like lelouch....Looks a little doctored imo >.>

The only way I could accept Lelouch not being dead is if it is the immortal code that he took from CC that's keeping him alive. I still think the show is better if he's dead though.

krazykandy
09-30-2008, 07:03 PM
Looks a little doctored imo >.>

The only way I could accept Lelouch not being dead is if it is the immortal code that he took from CC that's keeping him alive. I still think the show is better if he's dead though.

that would make it the best.......man i will admit i was really sad....i really gotta give it up to the creators and writers and whoever else did this anime.....such a intricate plot, with a simplistic idea
on a unrelated note does anyone know teh song playing during the epilogue?

scotsman
09-30-2008, 08:34 PM
The song at the end is "Continued Story" By Hitomi

Here's a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmoIaJLjtlM

you mean that song? if you do then you don't read posts do you.

anyway the way it ends really is the best way since you can decide for yourself if he's alive or dead and not forced to accept either one.

Vundal
09-30-2008, 11:51 PM
i loved this show so much. The ending was profound but not preachy and brought great endings to most of the characters.

personally i think LeLouch is dead, but there is a chance that the series could follow Nunally (dealing with have a geass given to her through LeLouch) or Suzaku(showing him trying to keep the peace in the world and dealing with the "Live On" Geass) the stories may be better as OVAs, though.

CopyPasta
10-01-2008, 03:00 AM
Lelouch is still alive. He has Charles' Code which he received when the man choked him. The Code activates first when you die, which happened. And before you say can't have Code and a Geass at the same time, the Code wasn't the one C.C. had, meaning that Lelouch was the first one to achieve Code Geass. He's now travelling the country-side with C.C., living as immortals.

That's the only reason for C.C. to be suddenly so happy again. Also, before you say that C.C. was just talking to the dead like with Marianne, that's not true. She could only talk to her because of the nature of her Geass which allowed her to implant herself into the "hearts" of others. That's how she was able to talk with Marianne. Lelouch's Geass was entirely different, meaning that she could only have spoken to him if he was there.

Also, the screenie of the cart driver who is masking his features competely supports this.

What further supports this is that Nunnally got Lelouch's memories when she touched him, just like Lelouch did when he touched C.C. back in Narita. The only way this could have happened is his Code activating. This pretty much confirms that he has the Code and is alive.

C.C.'s words in the end translated: "Geass is the power of kings, it will isolate you... well, I guess thats a little wrong... eh, Lelouch"

Alright, it seems that the last episode was pretty complex and out of most of the people I've talked to, a lot of people don't seems to get it. I'm going to tie up all the lose ends with this post.

The Code is the power of immortality, which C.C. has. The 98th Emperor of Britannia, Charles, has the Code. He transferred the Code to Lelouch while strangling him in episode 21. Lelouch wanted this, and he deliberately told Suzaku to not interfere.

However, the Code does not activate unless receiver dies first. This is shown when the nun kills C.C. after transferring the Code to her. Charle’s Code activated when he shot himself. Here is one of the big misconceptions that most people have: The transfer of the Code does not involve death of the transferrer. The nun was crazy and killed herself after she transferred her code. VV was injured from the battle and died. So basically, after episode 21, Lelouch had Charle’s Code (inactivated) and C.C’s contracted Geass.

When Lelouch got stabbed by Zero/Suzaku at the end, his Code was activated. What supports this is that Nunnally got Lelouch's memories when she touched him, just like Lelouch did when he touched C.C. back in Narita. The only way this could have happened is his Code activating. This pretty much confirms that he has the Code.

Unlike C.C., and Charles, who lost their Geasses because the people who contracted them died, Lelouch didn’t obtain C.C.’s Code and thus kept his Geass, while having the Code (which he obtained from Charles at the same time). Lelouch therefore has achieved CODE GEASS.

Basically, Lelouch is the person driving the cart in the last scene. He, who is now immortal, travels the brand new world he has created together with the also immortal C.C. C.C. talks to Lelouch in the end by saying: "Geass is the power of kings, it will isolate you... well, I guess thats a little wrong... eh, Lelouch?

Now comes the second big misconception. A lot of people say C.C. was just talking to the dead like with Marianne, that's not true. She could only talk to her because of the nature of her Geass which allowed her to implant herself into the "hearts" of others. That's how she was able to talk with Marianne. Lelouch's Geass was entirely different, meaning that she could only have spoken to him if he was there. Also, the fact that the cart driver is masking his features completely supports this fact, considering the fact that Lelouch is now considered dead.

mx7775
10-01-2008, 07:17 AM
im sorry but i can't help but ask where the heck plun got that clip. And there was no white hair it was part of the hat thing. So Plun where did u get that clip cause like Kandy said they only panned a part of his hat. And is that geass I see on the guys eyes. So is it real or what where did this clip come from?

Xiaopan87
10-01-2008, 07:24 AM
Lelouch is still alive. He has Charles' Code which he received when the man choked him. The Code activates first when you die, which happened. And before you say can't have Code and a Geass at the same time, the Code wasn't the one C.C. had, meaning that Lelouch was the first one to achieve Code Geass. He's now travelling the country-side with C.C., living as immortals.

That's the only reason for C.C. to be suddenly so happy again. Also, before you say that C.C. was just talking to the dead like with Marianne, that's not true. She could only talk to her because of the nature of her Geass which allowed her to implant herself into the "hearts" of others. That's how she was able to talk with Marianne. Lelouch's Geass was entirely different, meaning that she could only have spoken to him if he was there.

Also, the screenie of the cart driver who is masking his features competely supports this.

What further supports this is that Nunnally got Lelouch's memories when she touched him, just like Lelouch did when he touched C.C. back in Narita. The only way this could have happened is his Code activating. This pretty much confirms that he has the Code and is alive.

C.C.'s words in the end translated: "Geass is the power of kings, it will isolate you... well, I guess thats a little wrong... eh, Lelouch"

Alright, it seems that the last episode was pretty complex and out of most of the people I've talked to, a lot of people don't seems to get it. I'm going to tie up all the lose ends with this post.

The Code is the power of immortality, which C.C. has. The 98th Emperor of Britannia, Charles, has the Code. He transferred the Code to Lelouch while strangling him in episode 21. Lelouch wanted this, and he deliberately told Suzaku to not interfere.

However, the Code does not activate unless receiver dies first. This is shown when the nun kills C.C. after transferring the Code to her. Charle’s Code activated when he shot himself. Here is one of the big misconceptions that most people have: The transfer of the Code does not involve death of the transferrer. The nun was crazy and killed herself after she transferred her code. VV was injured from the battle and died. So basically, after episode 21, Lelouch had Charle’s Code (inactivated) and C.C’s contracted Geass.

When Lelouch got stabbed by Zero/Suzaku at the end, his Code was activated. What supports this is that Nunnally got Lelouch's memories when she touched him, just like Lelouch did when he touched C.C. back in Narita. The only way this could have happened is his Code activating. This pretty much confirms that he has the Code.

Unlike C.C., and Charles, who lost their Geasses because the people who contracted them died, Lelouch didn’t obtain C.C.’s Code and thus kept his Geass, while having the Code (which he obtained from Charles at the same time). Lelouch therefore has achieved CODE GEASS.

Basically, Lelouch is the person driving the cart in the last scene. He, who is now immortal, travels the brand new world he has created together with the also immortal C.C. C.C. talks to Lelouch in the end by saying: "Geass is the power of kings, it will isolate you... well, I guess thats a little wrong... eh, Lelouch?

Now comes the second big misconception. A lot of people say C.C. was just talking to the dead like with Marianne, that's not true. She could only talk to her because of the nature of her Geass which allowed her to implant herself into the "hearts" of others. That's how she was able to talk with Marianne. Lelouch's Geass was entirely different, meaning that she could only have spoken to him if he was there. Also, the fact that the cart driver is masking his features completely supports this fact, considering the fact that Lelouch is now considered dead."

Truth to be told this sounds quite reasonable since Lelouch is always finding some way to manipulate people. Har har. But the only people that knows if he's alive or not is the creators . . . also another thing to discuss.

Jeremiah "Orange" is living the rest of his life . . . picking oranges . . . with Anya . . . I'm guessing he has a loli complex. >_>; <_<;

And also Nunnally having that vision is random and could be the reason why the code activates.

edit: Also if you say Suzaku has problems killing Lelouch . . . he doesn't . . . well he has a reason why he would want to kill Lelouch. Lelouch killed Euphemia. (I think I spelled her name right)

edit # 2: Also I am amused that almost everyone that is important to the story that didn't die previously in the series still lived at the end of the episode. I half expected like some random people dying . . . like Kallen for being an idiot and not realizing how Lelouch is. LOLz Tell Kallen that he used her and THEN tell her to live a wonder life. T_T; Stupid stupid girl. And Suzaku HACKS SO MUCH

Temarifore
10-02-2008, 07:31 AM
I was so sad at the end of Code Geass. I want Lelouch to be alive and then again I don't I'm torn in between the two sides.

Plun
10-02-2008, 07:20 PM
im sorry but i can't help but ask where the heck plun got that clip. And there was no white hair it was part of the hat thing. So Plun where did u get that clip cause like Kandy said they only panned a part of his hat. And is that geass I see on the guys eyes. So is it real or what where did this clip come from?

#1. It's fake
#2. Could be real and leaked
#3. I really don't care if he's alive or not.

jamjfly
10-03-2008, 07:22 PM
i thing the guy on the driving the wagon is lelouch? wat u think?

I think it was lelouch. I don't think Lelouch is dead because he could have just went into a state of half-death and then Lord Jeremiah and the others that knew the truth could have replaced his body with a fake after they retreated. So it could have easily been a fake death so that the world could live in piece and so could him and C.C.

MugenYomi
10-09-2008, 10:51 PM
At the end if you look at CC forehead there isn't a Code Mark. It seems a little strange that they would forget to draw it. Also as CC said an eternal existance is hell. Now instead of dying once he can die over and over again. Also he can't have relationships since anyone will die before him so he'll have to watch death continously. I believe this would be the greatest punishment of all. Ther are four mangas and I believe two of them along with one of the novel series is being translated. I have seen on Books A Million.com the novel and at least one of the mangas. The first set of novels I think goes along with the first season. 2nd novel series is the year between the 1st and 2 nd seaons. The first manga series is the manga adaption of the anime, but I don't think their are KnightMares. Second manga is Suzaku of the Counterattack. No Knightmares but Suzaku does have a bodyarmor enhancment suit (think Japanese Iron Man). Third series is Nightmare of Nunnaly. Nunnaly gains Geass and special Knightmare from Nemo a special being created from CC DNA. Also Lelouch's Geass gives him a armor that makes him invinciple and enhances his strength. He fights on the front lines. The fourth and newest Is something like Tale of an alternate era. The story isset in Japan in the 1800s Geass unniverse The shogunate has set up a special force to stopthe Black Revolutionaries led By Rei (Japanese for Zero). The Shogunate force is led by a man that either has Lelouch's name or one very similar. Geass is the power to summon Metal Armors called Knightmares. I've read chapters from the first three manga series and have heard about the fourth. This should satisfy our Geass withdrawl.

zuluedison
11-04-2008, 08:42 AM
great end to the series.

obvious illusion to lelouch driving the cart with the hidden (masked...) man driving, and CC saying his name. I can think of a few other shows with similar endings.

someone in here already said it, but yeah, the last 5 or so episodes did seem really rushed, i don't know about a whole'nother season, but I could see 3-6 episodes being added, had they not rushed it.


I didn't read anyone mention it, but man, Nunally really got the worst of it. how horrible.

pretty depressing end, great series.

Sadrith
11-12-2008, 04:34 AM
i'm going to break up the happyness i think he is dead the end. also can C.C. have children

coconikki
11-22-2008, 10:35 AM
the ending was very sad
but i think that Lelouch is alive
while she was on the cart she was talking to him

AnimeManga
11-23-2008, 05:46 PM
C.C. Lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lulu was driving that cart and C.C isn't immortal any more so the just live there normal lives, and in normal time and Everything ends happy.

shirafune
11-24-2008, 06:18 AM
^hey, i want that ending.

the ending was actually not so convincing since the anime itself has a lot o twists that even the impossible can happen. in short, i'm not contented with the ending, there's someting missing with it, like it was rushed.

i have a strong feeling that lulu is still alive.

hey, code geass is a very good anime!
why not make it a naruto-length one?!

just kidding. ::D:

imaninja
11-24-2008, 07:22 AM
so does anyone know if there's going to be an OVA since the creator guy didn't like the way R2 was going since his original of R2 was dropped.

Also i think lulu is dead because why would C.C. cry for him if he wasn't going to die. Really though i want lulu to live so that maybe i could see if C.C. and lulu got married or something because their relationship was kinda skechy. For instance the whole kiss from C.C. when they where inside the flying black knightmare in season 1, and in R2 when C.C. was in the pink lancelot and they were about to kiss( I think) but then there was the explosion from kallen.

So that's my thoughts either way though we won't know for sure until bandai or whatever confirms lulu's death, or an ova or movie that concludes our thoughts. So please someone email bandai or keep emailing until they respond because i'm dying inside to find out.