Is the Earth doomed?

[Koopaking]

Time to start the first topic in the Mentality Symposium!

Sometimes I think about the planet. I think about humans, technology, nature, and civilization. And sometimes I think that humans are going to end up destroying the earth(or at least its capacity to comfortably support life) one way or another. Maybe even within the next century. We might blow each other up. We might use up all the planet's resources. We might dry up the oceans, or have them flood us. A rather pessimistic view, but I think that it is sadly inevitable, and that there is really nothing we can do to stop it.

Do you think the Earth is doomed?

[analogZero]

I don't think it's as doomed as most would think. It's not like we're going to blow the motha up, but the human race will crash in a sense. History's bound to repeat itself, right? well if you count up the numerous empires and civilizations that have come crashing down then it's somewhat easy to see where we're headed. All things rise from the earth and shall return to it, I suppose.

[Rincewind]

Actually in the Newspaper in Norway today theres a collum about a big thingey in, hmm swithzerland , a giant magnet or something , they talk about that things can go really really wrong and thats just for a stupid scientific experiment !!

I belive the world will NOT go under though, Optimistic ::D:

I will come back with more material and links later atm im at school ^^

[Viduus]

Yes, it is.

I suppose I could go on for pages about why I think humanity is completely screwed, by I find myself caring very little now. I used to watch the news, be informed about what's going on in the world and all it did was make me completely frustrated and depressed at the sheer amount of idiocy in the world. So I stopped paying attention and stopped caring. Somehow, I've been much happier since. Ignorance is bliss, perhaps?

[Russkie]

I definately agree that the world is full of idiot babies whose stupidity can become fatal for anyone within 3ft. But I am not entirely sure if the world is doomed or not, I am currently open to any argument of either side.

[Koopaking]

Actually in the Newspaper in Norway today theres a collum about a big thingey in, hmm swithzerland , a giant magnet or something , they talk about that things can go really really wrong and thats just for a stupid scientific experiment !!

I belive the world will NOT go under though, Optimistic ::D:

I will come back with more material and links later atm im at school ^^

Ah yes, that would be the Large Hadron Collider...

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/05/14/science/15cern.xlarge1.jpg

...Which they say could either make some really awesome experiments that will send us further in our understanding of science and matter astronomically... or it could undo the fabric of time and matter and possibly end the world. Gotta take some chances in the name of discovery right?

[a2ng0d]

We are sucking our planet dry, but it doesn't mean that it's the end for mankind. The difference between today's world and the civilizations of old is that today we have organizations such as WTO and the UN. Countries involved in said organizations have dropped the primitive trait of humans killing other humans for stupid reasons, such as inferiority of race/class. We no longer wage war on peoples that we find "different". Countries/ groups that still continue these practices are not involved with these world organizations. In fact, they get schooled. Ex: Saddam Hussein and his genocide of the Kurds, and look how hard we f*cked him. Bin Laden is soon to get f*cked. and China/North Korea? I'd like to see them try.

Humans by nature are consumers. To get to our "top of the food-chain" status that we have acquired over the ages, we had to consume, and we had to destroy. However, we have also learned to adapt, better than any other organism on the planet. Sadly, we adapt mostly by spreading to other areas and consuming some more. But who knows, I for one believe that science will prevail in the end. That, and the fact that we have developed a conscience and/or a sense of ethics, and that we've become aware of our weaknesses, shows that we're capable of helping ourselves.

[athrun0017]

sadly to say, but i agree with koopa, this world is doomed or is on a path to obivillon!.. though now as time as progressed our natural resources have become scarse and that along with many other factors are what is causing the doom for our planet earth.. though i can see each nation or terrioristic act on blowing up one another.. still its just one reason why we are doomed.

[leerock89]

For me it depends on the way you look at the word 'doom'. Back in the days doom meant something similar to 'fate' or 'destiny'. Movies and television has turned to word into something ominous and forbidding. To vaguely answer the question, yes the world is doomed. By doomed do I mean end, over, kaputz? Maybe. By doomed do I mean something big will happen eventually? Yes. I for one do have a little faith in man kind to not destroy ourselves, but with each passing year that hope shrinks more and more. I know I stated this in the forums previously, but someone needs to get his/her brain to work past that 8 percentile and figure out a way to travel faster then light so that we can start expanding the human race beyond out star and reap the resources of our universe.

[analogZero]

We are sucking our planet dry, but it doesn't mean that it's the end for mankind. The difference between today's world and the civilizations of old is that today we have organizations such as WTO and the UN. Countries involved in said organizations have dropped the primitive trait of humans killing other humans for stupid reasons, such as inferiority of race/class. We no longer wage war on peoples that we find "different". Countries/ groups that still continue these practices are not involved with these world organizations. In fact, they get schooled. Ex: Saddam Hussein and his genocide of the Kurds, and look how hard we f*cked him. Bin Laden is soon to get f*cked. and China/North Korea? I'd like to see them try.

Humans by nature are consumers. To get to our "top of the food-chain" status that we have acquired over the ages, we had to consume, and we had to destroy. However, we have also learned to adapt, better than any other organism on the planet. Sadly, we adapt mostly by spreading to other areas and consuming some more. But who knows, I for one believe that science will prevail in the end. That, and the fact that we have developed a conscience and/or a sense of ethics, and that we've become aware of our weaknesses, shows that we're capable of helping ourselves.


I think that's probably one of the greatest achievements mankind's made, to unify. However, this is the first recorded period in which advanced civilizations are spread across the entire globe. Frankly, there's too many people, and the more we breed out, the more we need to consume. It's simple math that yes we will run out, and yes we will consume all. It's the case of what gives us strength will ultimately harbour our weakness. We're at the point where we pay more for water than we do for fuel and energy, in some asian cities you can purchase clean air from a vending machine, and we're perpetuated into a way of life that has us consuming more than we require. If you feel a sh*t coming on, you should run for the bathroom to take care of it...and not do it in your pants. that's what the world's coming to from what I'm seeing.

[leerock89]

We are sucking our planet dry, but it doesn't mean that it's the end for mankind. The difference between today's world and the civilizations of old is that today we have organizations such as WTO and the UN. Countries involved in said organizations have dropped the primitive trait of humans killing other humans for stupid reasons, such as inferiority of race/class. We no longer wage war on peoples that we find "different". Countries/ groups that still continue these practices are not involved with these world organizations. In fact, they get schooled. Ex: Saddam Hussein and his genocide of the Kurds, and look how hard we f*cked him. Bin Laden is soon to get f*cked. and China/North Korea? I'd like to see them try.

Humans by nature are consumers. To get to our "top of the food-chain" status that we have acquired over the ages, we had to consume, and we had to destroy. However, we have also learned to adapt, better than any other organism on the planet. Sadly, we adapt mostly by spreading to other areas and consuming some more. But who knows, I for one believe that science will prevail in the end. That, and the fact that we have developed a conscience and/or a sense of ethics, and that we've become aware of our weaknesses, shows that we're capable of helping ourselves.

The largest waste of time and energy I've seen. Do you know what they do the majority of the time? Sit in a group and argue about whether or not they should help out a group of people, whether or not they should send food to a starving race, whether or not to send troops to help a nation in distress, and they can't come to a fast decision cause everything there is ruled by politics not humanitarianism. Granted they have done some good, but not much. Look at what America did in Iraq. The US bypassed the rules and walked right in like a bunch of battle hungry vikings, saying it was to preserve the way of liberty and justice. SHAME ON THOSE ORGANIZATIONS!

[cjfidler]

Everything comes to an end including the earth itself, And we as human are not doing much more than speeding its destruction With all the people out there trying to save mother earth we still are doing more bad than good. If we don't wipe ourselves out with war we will with our wasteful and destructive habits.Personally I don't see any hope for this planet.

[Sadrith]

It just depends on what we do in the next fifty years wether it will be doomed. Even if it is we as humans will find a way to adapt to the new living condititions. I think that we need to worry more about world war three or the paranoid guy with the phone in control of the missles.

[a2ng0d]

The largest waste of time and energy I've seen. Do you know what they do the majority of the time? Sit in a group and argue about whether or not they should help out a group of people, whether or not they should send food to a starving race, whether or not to send troops to help a nation in distress, and they can't come to a fast decision cause everything there is ruled by politics not humanitarianism. Granted they have done some good, but not much. Look at what America did in Iraq. The US bypassed the rules and walked right in like a bunch of battle hungry vikings, saying it was to preserve the way of liberty and justice. SHAME ON THOSE ORGANIZATIONS!

Yes, it is true that politics rules over humanitarianism in this world. But it's just what we have to deal with to make everyone happy. Besides, I don't think America invaded Iraq without consent from the UN. Which is why we have other countries in Iraq as well: Britain, Canada, Australia. I do believe that they may have planned the events of 9/11 secretly to gain rights to invade the Middle East.

You gotta think of it this way: Back around 2005, Japanese intelligence reported that China was tripling its military budget. As we all know, the Chinese government was purchasing petroleum, tanks, and several fighter jets. The Japanese believed that they were planning an invasion of the surrounding countries, and reported it to the United States, who ignored it until about a year or two later. Why were we so cool about it? Because to randomly invade countries would be suicide without the UN's consent. You would get Romped. In current events, Russia got owned by the UN and was forced to withdraw from Georgia.

America basically had the permission from the UN to participate in this current war for reasons that "We're fighting terrorism", or "We're getting them back", and while they're at it "Let's take out a dictator and free these people". Everybody knows that the American government wouldn't do that out of the goodness of its heart.

But I digress. The UN may not be perfect, but it is our first successful attempt to unify as a race, and it would be the first to respond (I hope) to any possible extraterrestrial attacks. I wonder, doesn't the UN have its own army? I might be wrong.

[Viduus]

Yes, it is true that politics rules over humanitarianism in this world. But it's just what we have to deal with to make everyone happy. Besides, I don't think America invaded Iraq without consent from the UN. Which is why we have other countries in Iraq as well: Britain, Canada, Australia. I do believe that they may have planned the events of 9/11 secretly to gain rights to invade the Middle East. ....
What? Are you a conspiracy theorist?

The US did send in troops to Iraq without the green light from the UN, on top of which they used falsefied and embelished "facts" to support the reasons Iraq was invaded in the first place.

And thinking the towers were downed for rights to invade the Middle East.... wow. I can't even begin to explain how boggled I am at statements such as that.

You gotta think of it this way: Back around 2005, Japanese intelligence reported that China was tripling its military budget. As we all know, the Chinese government was purchasing petroleum, tanks, and several fighter jets. The Japanese believed that they were planning an invasion of the surrounding countries, and reported it to the United States, who ignored it until about a year or two later. Why were we so cool about it? Because to randomly invade countries would be suicide without the UN's consent. You would get Romped. In current events, Russia got owned by the UN and was forced to withdraw from Georgia.Owned? How so? Russia stopped attacking Georgia days after it started and then stated they weren't going to withdraw out of the regions they had taken over. Russia didn't have shit happen to them.

America basically had the permission from the UN to participate in this current war for reasons that "We're fighting terrorism", or "We're getting them back", and while they're at it "Let's take out a dictator and free these people". Everybody knows that the American government wouldn't do that out of the goodness of its heart.

But I digress. The UN may not be perfect, but it is our first successful attempt to unify as a race, and it would be the first to respond (I hope) to any possible extraterrestrial attacks. I wonder, doesn't the UN have its own army? I might be wrong.The UN is the remnant of what was put together after World War II to counter the spread of Communism. It's a system which serves no real purpose any more other than to help the superpowers of the world waggle their finger at smaller countries and say that's a nono, and then blatantly disregard what the UN suggests when they try to do something.

The concept of a UN, of a WTO, of a European Union is great. It's execution will almost assuredly fail every single time as long as there's countries on different economic, social, and technological levels.

[a2ng0d]

....
What? Are you a conspiracy theorist?

The US did send in troops to Iraq without the green light from the UN, on top of which they used falsefied and embelished "facts" to support the reasons Iraq was invaded in the first place.

And thinking the towers were downed for rights to invade the Middle East.... wow. I can't even begin to explain how boggled I am at statements such as that.

Owned? How so? Russia stopped attacking Georgia days after it started and then stated they weren't going to withdraw out of the regions they had taken over. Russia didn't have shit happen to them.

The UN is the remnant of what was put together after World War II to counter the spread of Communism. It's a system which serves no real purpose any more other than to help the superpowers of the world waggle their finger at smaller countries and say that's a nono, and then blatantly disregard what the UN suggests when they try to do something.

The concept of a UN, of a WTO, of a European Union is great. It's execution will almost assuredly fail every single time as long as there's countries on different economic, social, and technological levels.

Regarding the towers; my suspicions are not necessarily fact, but i have spoken with a college professor who was affiliated with Illuminati; and he brought up subjects that really made you think. If politics is a game of chess, and a sick game it would be in this case, then supposedly the United States has sacrificed a piece in attempts to gain something else. Everyone should know that the CIA tracked the terrorists way before September 11th, and that we could have easily destroyed their operation before any damage was done. So why would you think that these attacks were allowed to take place? Besides gaining rights to the Middle East. You can think of it this way: Who do you put your trust and faith in when your country is attacked by an enemy? The Government. And what happened after these so called "attacks"? Airport Security, but most importantly:The Patriot Acts. Do you see where this is going? They have the right to eavesdrop all communications from phone calls to instant messaging. Not to say they are always watching you, but they have the right to. Certain internet sites are being blocked because the Patriot Acts say they are "inappropriate for the citizens of this country". Who the hell are they to judge what is and what isn't appropriate? It's our God given right as American citizens to visit whatever sites we choose. But no one can protest, why? Oh, because we're scared of terrorists. Whatever. Slowly, but surely, these "Patriot Acts" are going to turn this Land of the Free...into something else. This is only a theory.

And about the Russia Georgia thing, i thought i read something about them agreeing to withdraw after that crap with France and Condoleezza Rice.

[Viduus]

Regarding the towers; my suspicions are not necessarily fact, but i have spoken with a college professor who was affiliated with Illuminati; and he brought up subjects that really made you think. If politics is a game of chess, and a sick game it would be in this case, then supposedly the United States has sacrificed a piece in attempts to gain something else. Everyone should know that the CIA tracked the terrorists way before September 11th, and that we could have easily destroyed their operation before any damage was done. So why would you think that these attacks were allowed to take place? You can think of it this way: Who do you put your trust and faith in when your country is attacked by an enemy? The Government. And what happened after these so called "attacks"? Airport Security, but most importantly:The Patriot Acts. Do you see where this is going? They have the right to eavesdrop all communications from phone calls to instant messaging. Not to say they are always watching you, but they have the right to. Certain internet sites are being blocked because the Patriot Acts say they are "inappropriate for the citizens of this country". Who the hell are they to judge what is and what isn't appropriate? It's our God given right as American citizens to visit whatever sites we choose. But no one can protest, why? Oh, because we're scared of terrorists. Whatever. Slowly, but surely, these "Patriot Acts" are going to turn this Land of the Free...into something else. This is only a theory. I find it highly dubious that something like that is set up. I do agree that the situation was taken highly advatange of to an extreme which preyed on the fears of the public, but to think that it was set up is borderline insanity. I hate to say this but movies and TV shows about conspiracy theories and such have widely made people think things like that can actually happen.

And about the Russia Georgia thing, i thought i read something about them agreeing to withdraw after that crap with France and Condoleezza Rice.Nah, they stopped fighting, I still don't think they've totally withdrawn. Then again it's an ongoing situation even though it's not frontline news any more.

[a2ng0d]

I find it highly dubious that something like that is set up. I do agree that the situation was taken highly advatange of to an extreme which preyed on the fears of the public, but to think that it was set up is borderline insanity. I hate to say this but movies and TV shows about conspiracy theories and such have widely made people think things like that can actually happen.



When I consider these points :

- They knew it was coming LONG before it happend. The threats were direct.
- We didn't know shit until stuff started blowing up.
- What they're getting out of it

I don't know what to think about our government anymore. Go to any big city, and you may see this posted in various places : "9/11 was and inside job." Those are just the cries of people trying to open other peoples' eyes.

[Viduus]

When I consider these points :

- They knew it was coming LONG before it happend. The threats were direct.
- We didn't know shit until stuff started blowing up.
- What they're getting out of it

I don't know what to think about our government anymore. Go to any big city, and you may see this posted in various places : "9/11 was and inside job." Those are just the cries of people trying to open other peoples' eyes.Don't get me wrong, I don't like our government, I think they're doing a terrible job. However, I don't think there'll be anything that'll convince me that they planned 9/11, or just let it happen short of going back in time and seeing it myself.

I suppose it doesn't help that most of everyone who I hear stuff like that from I have never liked their personality.

[Rincewind]

Actually several religions and prophets and even sienticts have told and written down that a kind of apocalypse/end of the world will come anyway, so well just have to wait and see for ourself :(

[a2ng0d]

Don't get me wrong, I don't like our government, I think they're doing a terrible job. However, I don't think there'll be anything that'll convince me that they planned 9/11, or just let it happen short of going back in time and seeing it myself.

I suppose it doesn't help that most of everyone who I hear stuff like that from I have never liked their personality.

...im not forcing anything on anyone; its just a thought. if it gets offensive, we'll just drop it.

[leerock89]

Regarding the towers; my suspicions are not necessarily fact, but i have spoken with a college professor who was affiliated with Illuminati; and he brought up subjects that really made you think. If politics is a game of chess, and a sick game it would be in this case, then supposedly the United States has sacrificed a piece in attempts to gain something else. Everyone should know that the CIA tracked the terrorists way before September 11th, and that we could have easily destroyed their operation before any damage was done. So why would you think that these attacks were allowed to take place? Besides gaining rights to the Middle East. You can think of it this way: Who do you put your trust and faith in when your country is attacked by an enemy? The Government. And what happened after these so called "attacks"? Airport Security, but most importantly:The Patriot Acts. Do you see where this is going? They have the right to eavesdrop all communications from phone calls to instant messaging. Not to say they are always watching you, but they have the right to. Certain internet sites are being blocked because the Patriot Acts say they are "inappropriate for the citizens of this country". Who the hell are they to judge what is and what isn't appropriate? It's our God given right as American citizens to visit whatever sites we choose. But no one can protest, why? Oh, because we're scared of terrorists. Whatever. Slowly, but surely, these "Patriot Acts" are going to turn this Land of the Free...into something else. This is only a theory.

And about the Russia Georgia thing, i thought i read something about them agreeing to withdraw after that crap with France and Condoleezza Rice.

I had the same thought a couple days after the event. I mean, come on! America has some of the best defense in the known world, along with some of the best communication, and secret services. To sit there and tell me that they didn't see a plane coming directly into the city in that manner is a bunch of bs. And all the events that followed afterwords were, just as was mentioned, a game of sick chess. The maneuvering and placements of our troops, the ousting of a sovereign nation, and reelection of a president, and a law that is a slap on the basic civic rights that we fought so hard for. America is slowly turning into a police state with a taste for socialism and, I fear, imperialism, which is not to far away...remind anyone of another long past civilization?

[Viduus]

Actually several religions and prophets and even sienticts have told and written down that a kind of apocalypse/end of the world will come anyway, so well just have to wait and see for ourself :(There was a guy ranting while reading from a bible at my school one day. As I walked by I happened to catch that according to him the world will end on August 29th, 2009, somewhere between 3 and 5pm. I'm as likely to believe him as I am other "professionals".

...im not forcing anything on anyone; its just a thought. if it gets offensive, we'll just drop it. Oh don't worry, I haven't taken any offense, this is after all a debate :)

[a2ng0d]

Oh don't worry, I haven't taken any offense, this is after all a debate :)

I hope not. But whether or not you liked the people who say these things, well that's kinda personal. So it's always safe to drop the subject before it gets too hot.

@ Lee: it's not just the fact that they didn't notice the planes that day, it's that we were aware of the threats several months before.

[Russkie]

I had the same thought a couple days after the event. I mean, come on! America has some of the best defense in the known world, along with some of the best communication, and secret services. To sit there and tell me that they didn't see a plane coming directly into the city in that manner is a bunch of bs. And all the events that followed afterwords were, just as was mentioned, a game of sick chess. The maneuvering and placements of our troops, the ousting of a sovereign nation, and reelection of a president, and a law that is a slap on the basic civic rights that we fought so hard for. America is slowly turning into a police state with a taste for socialism and, I fear, imperialism, which is not to far away...remind anyone of another long past civilization?

I hope not. But whether or not you liked the people who say these things, well that's kinda personal. So it's always safe to drop the subject before it gets too hot.

@ Lee: it's not just the fact that they didn't notice the planes that day, it's that we were aware of the threats several months before.

I'm just wondering, but have any of you every been in a flight controll tower? I have, and you should know the tracking systems are a real mess. There are thousands of planes landing, taking off, and in the air all at the same time. If you've ever seen a one of those big screen maps of America with all the little dots representing aircraft, you would notice how crazy and chaotic it can be to track them all.

[a2ng0d]

I'm just wondering, but have any of you every been in a flight controll tower? I have, and you should know the tracking systems are a real mess. There are thousands of planes landing, taking off, and in the air all at the same time. If you've ever seen a one of those big screen maps of America with all the little dots representing aircraft, you would notice how crazy and chaotic it can be to track them all.

I would agree with you, as I saw that movie United 93. But whether they saw it with their eyes or not isn't the point. It's that they knew MONTHS before it was going to happen!

[Koopaking]

This is quite amusing how a thread about the state of the earth has become a debate over whether 9/11 was a conspiracy. I think that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were perpetrated by... someone. I don't really care who. But a lot of people died from those attacks, which sort of sucked. Whoever it was that was really behind the attacks ended up sacrificing thousands of innocent lives for whatever their cause was. The truth is that it was a tragedy no matter who was behind it, no matter what any ulterior motives were behind the attacks.

[Russkie]

This is quite amusing how a thread about the state of the earth has become a debate over whether 9/11 was a conspiracy. I think that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were perpetrated by... someone. I don't really care who. But a lot of people died from those attacks, which sort of sucked. Whoever it was that was really behind the attacks ended up sacrificing thousands of innocent lives for whatever their cause was. The truth is that it was a tragedy no matter who was behind it, no matter what any ulterior motives were behind the attacks.

Yes, getting off topic is rather common these days. You start talking about some new technical advancement in the world, and then 30 minutes later you find yourself talking about muffins.

But yes, 9/11 was a sad day, a sad day indeed.

[leerock89]

Then back to topic!! The earth doomed? Not for about 60 billion years. Is humanity doomed? Most likely it will be sooner then 60 billion years. A LOT sooner.

[analogZero]

The largest waste of time and energy I've seen. Do you know what they do the majority of the time? Sit in a group and argue about whether or not they should help out a group of people, whether or not they should send food to a starving race, whether or not to send troops to help a nation in distress, and they can't come to a fast decision cause everything there is ruled by politics not humanitarianism. Granted they have done some good, but not much. Look at what America did in Iraq. The US bypassed the rules and walked right in like a bunch of battle hungry vikings, saying it was to preserve the way of liberty and justice. SHAME ON THOSE ORGANIZATIONS!

I didn't say anything about their actions. I was just proud they were able to shake hands and unite a vast majority of the world. aside from that, ya, they're pretty lazy.

I had the same thought a couple days after the event. I mean, come on! America has some of the best defense in the known world, along with some of the best communication, and secret services.

plus a lot of people made a lot of money off investments in security and defense. it's gets real interesting when the people that are involved in the perpetuation of a war also have their wallets in it too........

sorry, topic fart.

I recall in school seeing a video about the depletion of natural resources and the like. Advertising alone, they said, would rid us of our resources withing 70 years. rough estimation on the difference from when I saw it'd be about 2055 or so. but I guess jesus will come back and f*ck us up before that happens, so no worries, huh.

[a2ng0d]

The Earth Doomed? Speak of the Devil, look what I found.

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411749/2067029

These dumbf*cks are gonna try to recreate the Big Bang. Gonna get a bunch of particles, bring them to light speed, the collide them, by nuclear means i think. If they're successful, great. But if they fail; it will produce small blackholes around the world that will suck the entire planet in. Proving a theory on the creation of the universe, with the risk of death to the entire planet. So worth it. And they're doing it tomorrow. So this could very well one of my (hell, our) final posts.

What do you guys think of this?

[soulten]

Well the earth is not doomed, yet. But humans are putting a not so welcomed hand in help speeding it up. Such as global warming, partially our fault but the earth was going to heat up on it's own. Just like how it will cool down after the heating. Plus with all of the weird experiments we have done or are going to do it's about time we screw ourselves over trying to help ourselves. Also at that I want to bring up the aztec calender saying December 12, 2012 is the end of the earth if the crystal skulls are not collected. I'm not so sure the skulls will help but the aztec may be on to something. Another thing I heard is in a couple of years a comet is supposed to pass between the moon and Earth, possibly colliding with the Earth and pulling another possible dinosaur predicament. And for the black hole thing atleast if it does go wrong we'll prove blackholes exist.

[leerock89]

Well technically they aren't trying to recreate the Big Bang, they are trying to recreate the conditions after the Big Bang...which, I guess means that they are going to have to recreate the Big Bang first...oh well. We will know on Wednesday whether or not the world will end...just imagine it, the world ending due to a EPIC FAILURE, and we all get sucked into a small black hole...

[Viduus]

The Earth Doomed? Speak of the Devil, look what I found.

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411749/2067029

These dumbf*cks are gonna try to recreate the Big Bang. Gonna get a bunch of particles, bring them to light speed, the collide them, by nuclear means i think. If they're successful, great. But if they fail; it will produce small blackholes around the world that will suck the entire planet in. Proving a theory on the creation of the universe, with the risk of death to the entire planet. So worth it. And they're doing it tomorrow. So this could very well one of my (hell, our) final posts.

What do you guys think of this?I've been reading about it, creating a black hole which sucks the entire earth in seems just a bit too fantastic for me given the technology we do have.

Given the history of the earth, we're due for a major collision with an asteroid/meteor sometime in the next few thousand years. The magnetic poles are also due to flip sometime soon. And then there's the natural expansion of the sun, which in millions of years will engulf the earth before it goes supernova, though life will be impossible long before that. Will humanity be around still at that time? Dubious. We are, after all, just a spec in the timeline of this planet.

[a2ng0d]

I've been reading about it, creating a black hole which sucks the entire earth in seems just a bit too fantastic for me given the technology we do have.

Given the history of the earth, we're due for a major collision with an asteroid/meteor sometime in the next few thousand years. The magnetic poles are also due to flip sometime soon. And then there's the natural expansion of the sun, which in millions of years will engulf the earth before it goes supernova, though life will be impossible long before that. Will humanity be around still at that time? Dubious. We are, after all, just a spec in the timeline of this planet.

Thousand? more like 35.
http://www.wired.com/science/space/news/2005/05/67630
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Russian_Scientists_Warn_Of_Asteroid_Impact_Hazard_ In_2035_999.html

[Viduus]

Thousand? more like 35.
http://www.wired.com/science/space/news/2005/05/67630
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Russian_Scientists_Warn_Of_Asteroid_Impact_Hazard_ In_2035_999.htmlThere's always a margin of error in these cases, and those usually stretch it to a thousand years or so. There is always a possiblity of it within the next 35 years of course.

[Mugen]

Today is the day the Earth is going to go boom... If this was an unconventional universe, ofcourse.

For the anxious, here is how it turned out:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080910/ap_on_sc/big_bang

[AyumiBee]

I think humanity will destroy the Earth sadly earlier or later. I can see so much weird things in my country for example the weather is changing too much and I only lived 18 years but I can say that like the old grandmas and grandpas when I was young the world wasn't like this. I have heard many theories how will the Earth end and why are these changes. I think of sometimes when I will be a granny 60-70 years later how will the Earth look, will I see the end of the world?

[analogZero]

well no black holes. In the event that one is even created, it'd be so small that it wouldn't even have the energy needed to suck in the protons around it, or so they say. All the scheduled testing for it is set at such low levels that I doubt they'll be tinkering with our solar system quite yet. but hey, in the event of a failure, the closer you are to france the sooner you'll find out what happens when you pass through a black hole!

[Rincewind]

You guys got some points, Here is how I guess the world is gonna end eventually!..., and Im being optimistic :P
With hydrogenbombs!( several times more powerful then Neuclear bombs)

http://pcmedia.gamespy.com/pc/image/article/708/708622/world-in-conflict-20060513025110375.jpg
http://probaway.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/hydrogenbomb-3.thumbnail.jpg
http://library.thinkquest.org/26285/english/hydrogenbomb.jpg
http://www.lochness.co.uk/exhibition/images/hydrogenbomb.gif

[analogZero]

You guys got some points, Here is how I guess the world is gonna end eventually!..., and Im being optimistic :P
With hydrogenbombs!( several times more powerful then Neuclear bombs)

http://pcmedia.gamespy.com/pc/image/article/708/708622/world-in-conflict-20060513025110375.jpg
http://probaway.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/hydrogenbomb-3.thumbnail.jpg
http://library.thinkquest.org/26285/english/hydrogenbomb.jpg
http://www.lochness.co.uk/exhibition/images/hydrogenbomb.gif


who's up for some tsar bomb wars!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfoQsZa8F1c

[leerock89]

who's up for some tsar bomb wars!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfoQsZa8F1c

That is one HELL of a big explosion!! What was that, like three clouds coming from that thing?? HOLY CRAP!! A thought occurred to me while watching this, so this is what they do with all that unused land, explode bombs. And here we are sitting and complaining about over population.

[a2ng0d]

who's up for some tsar bomb wars!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfoQsZa8F1c

I agree, that bomb is pretty badass. Is that the only one they've made? this could be useful later on.

[analogZero]

ya they've made and tested one I believe. the bad ass thing is it was supposed to be bigger, but they thought it would be unstable. those crazy reds.
there's another video of it somewhere showing the damage in relation to the city of London. essentially the immediate blast alone would incinerate the city. the suburbs would just have to deal with fire instead of air.

[Koopaking]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCPH4p-Zp1Q

A bit long... But it shows how truly unprepared we are if a nuclear war does occur. Very interesting stuff.

[Russkie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCPH4p-Zp1Q

A bit long... But it shows how truly unprepared we are if a nuclear war does occur. Very interesting stuff.

Watched it all, it was rather interesting.

I learned a few things I didnt know before.