Movie Industry or Gaming Industry

[partyprobe]

Well its been a while since i made a topic in this debate room. Well I am tired of seeing debate topics that are about witch of these anime are the best. So this time the topic will be a fight between the movie industry or the gaming industry. I want to know what people think of these two. Which is bigger, which does more for the economy, Which one has more flops, we just need to fight to see which is better. I won't start this one off like i did the others, I want this to start from scratch. Here are the links to the other debates that were real debates and not people naming what they like better. Not saying there are good one out there but there are a lot of self minded ones.

http://www.animefuel.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3447

http://www.animefuel.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3348

[monsoon 10]

Movie industry is clearly the strongest.

[quietchat]

Why are movies winning all of the sudden? Currently the Videogame Industry pulls in several billion annually, in amounts of profit far greater than any other media of entertainment.

I'd post a link stating that it does, but I can't find it anywhere.

[jamjfly]

I think the gaming industry is growing strong and is finally beating the movie industry. But for a long time I thought the movie industry was doing better, but now it is losing its touch in my opinion. The gaming industry is catching up at quite a fast pace. This is because of the new systems, especially the Nitendo Wii.

[quietchat]

Okay, I found the link. Videogames beat movies, and they beat dvd's, but they don't beat dvd's, AND movies together.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=26464499

According to the article, these are numbers crunched for the 2007 year.

[analogZero]

movie industry would win in a fist fight...but it would fight like a girl and i'd feel conflicted with the results.

[Koopaking]

Which is bigger, which does more for the economy, Which one has more flops, we just need to fight to see which is better.

To address each of these individually:

Which is bigger?
The movie industry is much bigger than the gaming industry, at least at the present. There are a couple reasons for this. Reason 1: Longevity. The movie industry has been around for nearly a hundred years, whereas gaming has only been around for the past 30 years or so. That gives movies a huge head start already. Reason 2: Availability and universality. More people watch movies than play games. Cinema is enjoyed all around the world by billions of people, in all countries. You'd be hard pressed to find a person who has never watched a movie in their life, but millions have never picked up a game controller. Also, it's about $8 to go see a movie. If you want to play some games, you have to go buy a $200 game console, and then a $50 game. Only people who really want to play games are gonna go out and buy them.

Which does more for the economy?
The Movie Industry. A game is created in an office. You have a team of programmers and designers, maybe some voice actors, and it is all made on a computer. In order to film a movie (live action) you need a cast, a crew, a set, and more. Many movies filmed in foreign, poor places generate millions of dollars for the area and can increase jobs. In fact, when they shot the movie Castaway(you know, the one with Wilson, the volleyball, and Tom Hanks) the island it was shot on became a tourist attraction, and has generated millions of tourist money for the country it's a part of. (I want to say it's in Costa Rica, but I'm not entirely sure).

Which one has more flops?
Once again, the movie industry. Movies cost a lot of money to make. A whole lot. They are made in hopes that box office sales will exceed the movie budget, and turn a profit. Games do the same thing with sales, but it costs a lot less to make a game. A game's budget can be much more easily turned to profit than a movie for two reasons: they cost less to make, and cost more to buy. Say a game is $50. Two people buy this game, that's $100 towards game sales. Movie Ticket is $8. It will take nine people buying tickets at that much to generate just as much movie sales.

But in the end, which one is better?
Well I love me a good movie. But I like games even more. Games offer much more immersion than movies, and where a movie only lasts about 2 hours, games can last up to dozens, even hundreds of hours, and that's just one game. Games are interactive with players as well. You can't choose what a character in a movie will do. Although movies are on top now as far as profit is concerned, I imagine within the next decade games will at least match, if not surpass that.

[partyprobe]

Im stunned i never seen you answer anything with that detailed of an description.

[leerock89]

Yes this is very strange...how many sites did you go search before finding the one you just posted?

[quietchat]

Me? I tried Yahoo Google and MSN search, as well as looking through 1up.com, Wikipedia.com and ign.com.

[leerock89]

Me? I tried Yahoo Google and MSN search, as well as looking through 1up.com, Wikipedia.com and ign.com.

No no no we were talking about koopa. Well at least I was. He normally doesnt put in such a detailed post so I was poking fun, you know, seeing if he copied pasted the info, all that jazz...

[spirit]

Well its been a while since i made a topic in this debate room. Well I am tired of seeing debate topics that are about witch of these anime are the best. So this time the topic will be a fight between the movie industry or the gaming industry. I want to know what people think of these two. Which is bigger, which does more for the economy, Which one has more flops, we just need to fight to see which is better. I won't start this one off like i did the others, I want this to start from scratch. Here are the links to the other debates that were real debates and not people naming what they like better. Not saying there are good one out there but there are a lot of self minded ones.

http://www.animefuel.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3447

http://www.animefuel.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3348

Speaking of gaming industry. Does anyone of you know how much creators of WoW made on their game? And how much are they earning ever single month? *smiles* Yeah. They are getting "disgustingly" rich.

[Koopaking]

Huh? Oh no I didn't look any of that up as I was writing it, or copy and paste any of it. Just came from my mind.

[leerock89]

Huh? Oh no I didn't look any of that up as I was writing it, or copy and paste any of it. Just came from my mind.

You know what? Just because it sounded so honest and you didn't try to joke about it like you normally would...I believe you.

[partyprobe]

Well there are also teams of people putting games together just because they are fans. They don't get paid, like the people putting together the massive player dot hack game.

[Koopaking]

You know what? Just because it sounded so honest and you didn't try to joke about it like you normally would...I believe you.

Well unlike a lot of jokers, I can be serious when I want to be about something. I am, after all, basically an admin here.

Well there are also teams of people putting games together just because they are fans. They don't get paid, like the people putting together the massive player dot hack game.

As well as there are people that make independent films.

and to prove that I am the real Koopaking, and not some serious poser I'll say this: BOOBS.

[sousuke]

i would think think the gamimg industry =/

[Koopaking]

i would think think the gamimg industry =/

......what?

[soulten]

I say movies because there is no video game with Chuck Norris in it...JK

In all honesty the gaming is taking over, you could tell gaming was taking over when they started to base movies off videogames.

[phi-life]

i think the gaming industry does more for the economy cause with films u can watch them a few time and they get boring but games u can over and over and over again and not get bored (if its a good game lol)

[sousuke]

......what?

the gamimg industry is taking movie bcuz of that movie rental on ps3 an netflix on 360

[Rincewind]

Speaking of gaming industry. Does anyone of you know how much creators of WoW made on their game? And how much are they earning ever single month? *smiles* Yeah. They are getting "disgustingly" rich.

Well you pay 16$ a month times I belive its 10million players, thats a lot of money !!

[monsoon 10]

i would think think the gamimg industry =/

http://i33.tinypic.com/2i935vq.gif

[illuma]

For once i think i would have to agree with monsoon on this one. There is no way you could have not noticed that big of a spelling mistake.

[sousuke]

haha i just noticed.... XD

[monsoon 10]

haha i just noticed.... XD

That's the saddest part of it really.

[illuma]

That's the saddest part of it really.

And this is where i stop agreeing because it could have been much sadder

[Russkie]

I dont know which is larger, nor do I care. I do care, however, that they both seem to think its a great idea to continue spewing out CRAP rather than something new and original.

[monsoon 10]

I dont know which is larger, nor do I care. I do care, however, that they both seem its a great idea to continue spewing out CRAP rather than something new and original.

Refer to it by the media's proper label. Good wholesome entertainment.

[Russkie]

Refer to it by the media's proper label. Good wholesome entertainment.

Crap, wholesome entertainment, its the same thing right?

Besides, I read/was told by some person that the movie industry continues to make garbage because of some taxing thing. Supposably, if they make more bad movies than good, they will be taxed less on what they earn. Whether or not this is true, I have no idea.

[quietchat]

Crap, wholesome entertainment, its the same thing right?

Besides, I read/was told by some person that the movie industry continues to make garbage because of some taxing thing. Supposably, if they make more bad movies than good, they will be taxed less on what they earn. Whether or not this is true, I have no idea.

If it was true, then consider what would be worse: Losing a half mill in taxes, or losing 28 Million in revenue for a bad movie compared to the last one you made?

[Russkie]

If it was true, then consider what would be worse: Losing a half mill in taxes, or losing 28 Million in revenue for a bad movie compared to the last one you made?

Thats why I made sure to let you guys know I doubt its true.

[monsoon 10]

Crap, wholesome entertainment, its the same thing right?

Besides, I read/was told by some person that the movie industry continues to make garbage because of some taxing thing. Supposably, if they make more bad movies than good, they will be taxed less on what they earn. Whether or not this is true, I have no idea.

Doesn't sound right to me, you normally lose more money making a movie than you do to taxes.

[Koopaking]

Doesn't sound right to me, you normally lose more money making a movie than you do to taxes.

This holds true to the actual people who make the movie, but if you are a big star and you act in the movie, you'll be up your ears in glorious cash.

[leerock89]

On average an A class star will make a minimum of 5 million per movie.

[Koopaking]

On average an A class star will make a minimum of 5 million per movie.

Indeed, and I wish I could get paid millions of dollars to pretend I am someone else while getting filmed. It's such a waste. It's like the all star athletes, they get paid so much money for doing what? Playing a game.

[leerock89]

The art from of acting is the lie. You have to be able to lie, lie, lie then lie some more. Its making a living off of lies.

[monsoon 10]

Indeed, and I wish I could get paid millions of dollars to pretend I am someone else while getting filmed. It's such a waste. It's like the all star athletes, they get paid so much money for doing what? Playing a game.

People like getting entertained. People will pay money to be entertained. It's a free market.

[Koopaking]

People like getting entertained. People will pay money to be entertained. It's a free market.

I don't find sports entertaining in the slightest bit. I could care less. I do watch movies, but I'll only pay a maximum of the price of a movie ticket to watch it. That is, if I want to get out of the house, because I can always watch it for free on the good old internet.

[Fam1st]

i say movie industry i mean think about look at all the greats that made somuch mulah batman iron man wanted chronicles of nardia prince caspian nd more hav made over 20 mill nd alot of games r floppin nd not bein as good as they r expected 2 be so thats y i say movies

[Fam1st]

but then again i agree with soulten becuz he is rite about alot of movies being based off video games i still say movies tho

[monsoon 10]

I don't find sports entertaining in the slightest bit. I could care less. I do watch movies, but I'll only pay a maximum of the price of a movie ticket to watch it. That is, if I want to get out of the house, because I can always watch it for free on the good old internet.

You aren't all the free markets consumers. Don't ya know.

[Koopaking]

You aren't all the free markets consumers. Don't ya know.

Yeah, but I'm the only consumer that I care about.

[monsoon 10]

Yeah, but I'm the only consumer that I care about.

Sure one grain of sand in a desert.

[Koopaking]

Sure one grain of sand in a dessert.

HA HA! A dessert? Do people normally eat desserts with sand in them?? Or do you mean a DESERT hehehehe

Yes, I may be one grain of sand in the desert, but it's the only grain that is directly important to me as far as I am concerned.

[monsoon 10]

HA HA! A dessert? Do people normally eat desserts with sand in them?? Or do you mean a DESERT hehehehe

Yes, I may be one grain of sand in the desert, but it's the only grain that is directly important to me as far as I am concerned.

No in all sincerity I really meant dessert./sarcasm
I just can't get enough of those dune sundaes./also sarcasm

[Elegroth]

I think the Movie Industry is winning, but the Gaming Industry will be past it by 2010. The Gaming Industry is clearly catching up!

[Neoliger]

video game short and simple.

[conigwolf]

go gaming business

[Ayabrea2]

Hmmmm this is hard. I love movies but i love games too. Movie don't last long, games don't last long either. Games are interactive, movies are not..unless its for a trival game. So............Gaming industry. You can always play a game twice..or more than once..but when watching a movie..it can get annoying after a while..unless your a hardcore movie fan.

[hsb39]

It's hard but I'd have to go for gaming industry.

[fejknick]

Gaming. That was soooo easy. ::D: