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spirit
07-03-2008, 03:05 AM
Are people born evil or do they develop it over the time?
I have my own opinion on this one, however I would like you to write your comments,
what do you think ;)

nena-X3
07-03-2008, 03:13 AM
lol..people are born evil! lol jk..i think people become evil later. why..because i don't think people are born evil....lol. or..im not sure :/

sleeper101
07-03-2008, 03:15 AM
i say it a combo but then again everyone a good side so i cant choose lol

chitobi
07-03-2008, 03:20 AM
combination

spirit
07-03-2008, 03:22 AM
Yeah, I like all of the answers, tho I wish people would support their opinions ;) The hardest is to find good arguments to state your belief! ;)

Koopaking
07-03-2008, 04:05 AM
To understand this one must have a proper definition of "evil"? What is evil? It's doing things that are considered immoral and wrong. I believe one becomes "evil" through life experience. When we are first born... We cannot distinguish between right and wrong, good or evil. We depend on our parents and caretakers to guide us. It actually depends... If one does not know that what they are doing is wrong and immoral, are they truly evil?

leerock89
07-03-2008, 04:33 AM
Ok the clear answer is whatever I say is good is good, and whatever I say is evil, is evil.

Xunlai
07-03-2008, 05:57 AM
A little bit of both i think, i dont know though....time experiance does affect

illuma
07-03-2008, 09:56 AM
I would have to say that it would be a combination of both because it can go either way really. I mean lets say you can be born good or evil, that right there is part one. Part 2 would be the in between which would be his/her life before expressing. Part 3 would be being old enough to express it. So lets say a person was born evil, part 1, but had a good life with loving parents and enriched experiences, which would be part 2. Wouldn't that person be a good person in part 3?

Lynumeah
07-03-2008, 12:01 PM
I don't think people are born evil. I mean, how could they already be evil when they are just born? So, I suppose people become evil.

kiki
07-03-2008, 12:26 PM
I dont think people pop out of the womb evil, maybe hungry, but not evil. Usually something happens in your life to make you evil. Ummm like you have a traumatic expirience or someone just completely screws you over and you become evil.

RzXzB
07-03-2008, 03:20 PM
People are not born evil.People become evil because what they do in life.

tripletres
07-03-2008, 03:37 PM
I think that no one is 'evil'. only bad. 'evil', in my opinion, can only be placed upon Satin. now, i think this thread is not meant if people are 'evil', but if people are 'bad'. i think people are bad through expirience. but then again... i havent seen a baby come out of a womb with a knife, threatening to kill everyone in the room. no, mostly i believe it comes through expiriences. how you were raised, what happenned in your life, etc...

Russkie
07-03-2008, 03:45 PM
Peoples character are formed with personaly experiances and the choices they make.

Shigami
07-03-2008, 04:10 PM
I'd say we are born neither good nor evil.We are neither becoming good throughout the life nor bad.
It's our free will and personal opinion about life that make's us good and evil.
Sure i was raised within a good family,sure i wasn't born evil,But i can change all that.

We can do everything we want,we just Choose not to.
I can be evil just because i wanted to,or i can stay as a good,and normal citizen for the same reason.

Koopaking
07-03-2008, 04:14 PM
I think that no one is 'evil'. only bad. 'evil', in my opinion, can only be placed upon Satin. now, i think this thread is not meant if people are 'evil', but if people are 'bad'. i think people are bad through expirience. but then again... i havent seen a baby come out of a womb with a knife, threatening to kill everyone in the room. no, mostly i believe it comes through expiriences. how you were raised, what happenned in your life, etc...

INDEED!!! SATIN IS THE MOST EVIL AND HORRIFYING WOVEN GLOSSY CLOTH EVER CREATED!

I think people can indeed be evil. Very evil. Looking back in history, do people refer to humans like Hitler, Ivan the Terrible, Vlad the Impaler, Stalin, as "bad"? No they call them evil. People can be morally corrupt, people can evil. SATAN(not satin) is the only evil entity. (assuming he is in fact, existent). They used to burn people all through the Dark Ages that went against the church or the king, they were called evil heretics.

leerock89
07-03-2008, 09:33 PM
INDEED!!! SATIN IS THE MOST EVIL AND HORRIFYING WOVEN GLOSSY CLOTH EVER CREATED!

I think people can indeed be evil. Very evil. Looking back in history, do people refer to humans like Hitler, Ivan the Terrible, Vlad the Impaler, Stalin, as "bad"? No they call them evil. People can be morally corrupt, people can evil. SATAN(not satin) is the only evil entity. (assuming he is in fact, existent). They used to burn people all through the Dark Ages that went against the church or the king, they were called evil heretics.

HAHAHAHA!!! You caught that too!!! LOL!!!! SATIN!!!!

Oh that's right I have to say something. Ok some are born evil, some are born innocent. Sometimes the evil baby turns good cause of its parents and society, sometimes the innocent baby turns evil cause of its parents and society. The main thing about this is you don't really care whether people are evil or not. You just want to see some evil happen. Come on you know you live seeing death and destruction and what nots. Oh and it's all just a matter of perception.

LOL he said satin...lol...

Shigami
07-03-2008, 09:37 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Codex_Gigas_devil.jpg Satan as seen in Codex Gigas.Are you really afraid of this guy?

spirit
07-03-2008, 09:38 PM
HAHAHAHA!!! You caught that too!!! LOL!!!! SATIN!!!!
yeah, I found it funny too... though I would just just leave the kid alone, we all know what he meant ;))) don't be too hard on everyone ;)

Ryuuzaki
07-03-2008, 09:40 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Codex_Gigas_devil.jpg Satan as seen in Codex Gigas.Are you really afraid of this guy?

Not really...not anymore at least. But, I thought he looked like this... http://photobucket.com/image/satan/mwtqs1991/WarnerTrio5.jpg?o=36

I say people are born and made evil. Yep.

P.S. "Satin"..XD LOL

analogZero
07-05-2008, 02:17 AM
bah, we're all evil, it's just reversed on the timeline with boys and girls. young boys kill things to see what happens and kick/pull the hair of girls they like. later in life girls crush what little emotion boys have in their weighted souls just to see what happens. you should all be ashamed.

ps. shigami, that thing looks like an angry acorn.

ps2. koopa, take those satin underpants off, you're not helping the cause of good like that. Only the cause of your own personal comfort...selfish...gawd

milo
07-05-2008, 06:19 AM
I think that no one is evil it is just your point of watching you think they are evil they think you are evil see!

fayt
07-05-2008, 06:24 AM
i think evil people aren't born evil (except for my brothers)joke.i think they'll develop later on.

monsoon 10
07-05-2008, 12:53 PM
People aren't born evil, society and it's vices make people evil. I'm pretty sure Karl Marx said something along these lines as well.

spirit
07-05-2008, 01:48 PM
People aren't born evil, society and it's vices make people evil. I'm pretty sure Karl Marx said something along these lines as well.
I would like to notice that Karl Marx wasn't the only philosopher as well as theorist in this world... therefore his opinion isn't the only one and ABSOLUTE ;) If you are so much into those matters.... maybe you should study other great thinkers... and their different points of view.

I'm glad so many of you made your comments... some of you ably supported your opinions... other... ahh.. other membesr don't really know why they think in a certain way ;)
I will post my own opinion in a new future ;)

analogZero
07-05-2008, 09:47 PM
I'm glad so many of you made your comments... some of you ably supported your opinions... other... ahh.. other membesr don't really know why they think in a certain way ;)
I will post my own opinion in a new future ;)

it's because they're evil. evil people don't need to explain their ways.

spirit
07-05-2008, 10:06 PM
it's because they're evil. evil people don't need to explain their ways.
haha, often times.. they don't... they pledge "not guilty" lol... jk

Mugen
07-05-2008, 10:09 PM
Vegetarians are evil! Hitler was one. LOL. Joke about them being evil. ^^

spirit
07-05-2008, 10:15 PM
Vegetarians are evil! Hitler was one. LOL. Joke about them being evil. ^^
lol.... never heard that before.... xD

leerock89
07-05-2008, 10:26 PM
bah, we're all evil, it's just reversed on the timeline with boys and girls. young boys kill things to see what happens and kick/pull the hair of girls they like. later in life girls crush what little emotion boys have in their weighted souls just to see what happens. you should all be ashamed.

ps. shigami, that thing looks like an angry acorn.

ps2. koopa, take those satin underpants off, you're not helping the cause of good like that. Only the cause of your own personal comfort...selfish...gawd

HAHA!! That is almost ttoooo true! But some women don't turn out like that and some men turn out to be very evil. I mean lookit Oprah vs Dr Phil. No that one doesn't work....thats like evil vs evil... How about the late Mother Teressa vs George W.Bush.

spirit
07-05-2008, 11:30 PM
HAHA!! That is almost ttoooo true! But some women don't turn out like that and some men turn out to be very evil. I mean lookit Oprah vs Dr Phil. No that one doesn't work....thats like evil vs evil... How about the late Mother Teressa vs George W.Bush.
LoL..... and Lol......!! xD
you are very "political correct" ;) haha

jamjfly
07-06-2008, 12:57 AM
I think it is a combination of both, because some people are born evil, they want to hurt people at a young age, but others become evil through life experiences because of what they go through or wat they are told, etc.

Nahmu
07-06-2008, 05:34 AM
hmm... the age old "nature vs. nurture debate." i lean heavily towards nurture shaping a persons actions. i think that we're all born incredibly impressionable to our surroundings and how we are taught to interpret our society creates our perceptions. whether those perceptions run parallel to societies accepted values defines us as "evil." i wont go into a "what is evil" debate right now, but it's something to think about.

animex09
07-06-2008, 05:41 AM
they become evil by what goes on arond them.

mursku
07-06-2008, 02:01 PM
No no no, the Fact is people are born evil and occasionally some of em learn to be good.

just look this evil bugger, isn't this the very face of evil?!
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v403/puppeli/temp/th_finger-baby.jpg

spirit
07-06-2008, 02:02 PM
hmm... the age old "nature vs. nurture debate." i lean heavily towards nurture shaping a persons actions. i think that we're all born incredibly impressionable to our surroundings and how we are taught to interpret our society creates our perceptions. whether those perceptions run parallel to societies accepted values defines us as "evil." i wont go into a "what is evil" debate right now, but it's something to think about.
yeah. that was my first step to start another debate on nature and nurture ;) But I guess you were the only one who read in my mind, lol

suune
07-06-2008, 05:21 PM
Some people are born evil... like my grandmother. Don't ask.

But, her aside, I think it's the develop in life that makes you become evil or good...

monsoon 10
07-06-2008, 05:42 PM
Why hasn't anybody mentioned the fact that "evil" is an ever changing social construct?

spirit
07-06-2008, 06:49 PM
Why hasn't anybody mentioned the fact that "evil" is an ever changing social construct?
Because it seems that most of people imagine evil person as profoundly absolutely evil being. haha
I personally don't think that is adequate... it doesn't make any sense.... because in this case there needs to be a contradiction to "evil"... and as far as we all know.. there is no one who is "absolutely good" ;)

Klard
07-10-2008, 07:47 PM
People become evil. Babies don't pop out of their moms evil. They get that way through what happens in their life, mainly their childhood. Plus I don't think that anyone is truly evil. After all, no one can honestly say they're truly good, so how can someone be pure evil?

Klard
07-10-2008, 07:57 PM
No no no, the Fact is people are born evil and occasionally some of em learn to be good.

just look this evil bugger, isn't this the very face of evil?!
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v403/puppeli/temp/th_finger-baby.jpg

Come on, you're honestly going to sit there and tell me that baby popped out of his mom knowing how to make that gesture? No, if he gave the finger to someone, which I doubt, (that picture is off photobucket) he would have to have seen it somewhere in order to imitate it.:pissed:
That gesture isn't even evil, just obscene.

monsoon 10
07-10-2008, 07:58 PM
Come on, you're honestly going to sit there and tell me that baby popped out of his mom knowing how to make that gesture? No, if he gave the finger to someone, which I doubt, (that picture is off photobucket) he would have to have seen it somewhere in order to imitate it.:pissed:

Hey, no double posting.

Rincewind
07-10-2008, 08:03 PM
I belive its a combination of both , being evil is about ethick's , personality , who/where you grow up and stuff

spirit
07-10-2008, 08:04 PM
People become evil. Babies don't pop out of their moms evil. They get that way through what happens in their life, mainly their childhood.
So, you don't believe that we are born with a certain nature....? Notice, that we can observe people.. and their nature... from the very first days of their lives.... Even though they are neonates or infants... they are not all alike. So what makes them different? Their personal features, characteristics, temper, personality... thoughts and emotions. People are born with some "good" and "bad" qualities. Being "evil" or "good" is a part of a human nature. It is not something you "adopt" from others. It already exists in you. However, depending on the environment and the "triggers"... as well as your own ego.... you change and become less or more "evil." Being aware of it lets you control it.

BlueSano
07-10-2008, 08:06 PM
I don't think people are born evil. I mean, how could they already be evil when they are just born? So, I suppose people become evil.

yeah i totally agree ...

spirit
07-10-2008, 08:23 PM
yeah i totally agree ...
you should read my posts then ;) For instance, the last one explains it well, I think... :)