anime is dying..WHAT??

[kanama k.]

so if i where to say we would never be able to see anime or buy manga ever again how would you react
...the thing is its no joke
...i was reading this thing randumly
and it said something about america not going to allow anymore anime in the us
i alomot burst wanting to write the president
but as i keap reading on,it was a migth happen thing.out of releaf i cried(not really)but i was happy but i thought about it some more what if it happens
i would really end up crying
what would your reaction be??:pissed:

[Koopaking]

If that happened the "America not allowing anime in US" thing, well honestly I would just laugh and keep doing what I am doing - watching it on the internet.

[Ryuuzaki]

If that happened the "America not allowing anime in US" thing, well honestly I would just laugh and keep doing what I am doing - watching it on the internet.
Yep, agree 100%. And with the manga, again the internet prevails lol

[monsoon 10]

Anime is dying that's okay I'm a doctor. *not really*

[Corwin]

yeah I say screw that, there is no way they would really ban anime, b/c if they did they have to start banning video games and 70% of the shows on tv, it's just not good economic policy for starters and if they start banning something like that they start treading on First Amendment type stuff, although if I happened to live somewhere that this was more likely to happen, I'm w/ Koopa, internet piracy ftw! although I don't like reading manga online, quality sucks

[Sadrith]

People still watch anime on TV well we could still watch it online ut all of the new people who start watching it online ecause of the shows on tv. In short it would slowly die down ecause people will have no experince of seeing it on tv to want to watch it online.

[soulten]

do you know were this started? it probably from the kid who pulled a gaara and died, but it would be to hard to block the internet. plus i can always move to canada.

[Corwin]

that's an specious argument, while a number of ppl do happen to discover anime through the shows that networks like CN and Animax air, they also find stuff by seeing it at the store, seeing manga, friends, amv's on youtube, and ads all over the internet, while the anime industry might lose a couple of ppl, I don't think they would lose the majority of the incoming crowd, b/c the ppl that already like anime would be more likely to push it on their friends if it didn't air on tv, and if it was banned in the US, ppl would be more likely to go online looking for it as that which we are told we can't have is what we are most tempted by

[analogZero]

do you know were this started? it probably from the kid who pulled a gaara and died, but it would be to hard to block the internet. plus i can always move to canada.

yes, canada good!
and just give anime 10cc's of some kind of drug and it'll snap out of it. I saw it on doogie howser MD, works all the time.

[leerock89]

Anime dying? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA!! No seriously AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

[Koopaking]

Anime dying? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA!! No seriously AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

indeed, anime dying would be like the people at Hollywood saying "hey guys, we are tired of making movies and wallowing in billions of dollars, we aren't going to do it anymore".

[spirit]

so if i where to say we would never be able to see anime or buy manga ever again how would you react
...the thing is its no joke
...i was reading this thing randumly
and it said something about america not going to allow anymore anime in the us
i alomot burst wanting to write the president
but as i keap reading on,it was a migth happen thing.out of releaf i cried(not really)but i was happy but i thought about it some more what if it happens
i would really end up crying
what would your reaction be??:pissed:

my question is why would anyone would want to do so?
I mean it's a show-business; they are making huge money on this stuff...
So tell me what was the reason or the argument in this thing you read, hmm?

[leerock89]

wait wait wait...HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!

[Ryuuzaki]

wait wait wait...HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!*Dumps a bucket of water on Lee* Calm down...lol But yeah the chance of that happening is low....very low.

[soulten]

plus how could they get rid of it?

[Corwin]

They wouldn't, to be honest this sounds like one of those scare tactic platforms that politicians use to garner support for their campaigns, video games and sex and violence on tv have been done to death, so now they are using anime as the wicked tool that dehumanizes our children and causes them to do stupid stuff

[Raven]

I agree, it sounds ridiculous. But I have been hearing a lot of talk lately about buying less from China to help reduce the trade deficit. I think it is stupid and improbable, but bringing Japan into this mix is the only reason I could see for banning anime.

But who cares? I bet more people would watch it if it was banned XD

[Corwin]

just like I said before, it's true, you tell ppl that can't watch anime b/c it's getting banned and it will be Prohibition all over again, I don't see how they think they could enforce it, b/c legal drinking, driving, and smoking ages are so well enforced....

[x_lilium_x]

well..there's the internet..and im not in US..

[Corwin]

yeah I think we've all come to the conclusion that we would watch anime on the internet regardless, not that many of us actually get off the internet long enough to watch anime anywhere else...

[Raven]

just like I said before, it's true, you tell ppl that can't watch anime b/c it's getting banned and it will be Prohibition all over again, I don't see how they think they could enforce it, b/c legal drinking, driving, and smoking ages are so well enforced....

Haha! Too true Corwin XD

[Sadrith]

prohibition is a close but bad comparision because I don't think you will have people killing over anime or Fighting the cops about it. but, there will be all sorts of boot leg movies made and sold.

[Corwin]

ok, then maybe a better comparison for you would be the book burning in Europe from the Middle Ages all the way to the Nazi regime, despite the fact that many books were banned, ppl went out of their way to find and distribute copies

[Sadrith]

yeah that is proaly a etter comparison esides what would happen to all the collected material

[Corwin]

what do you mean? do you mean all the stuff that is already here? I don't think anything would happen to it. If the US actually banned the import of anime I don't think they'd do anything about the current stuff available they would just stop any new stuff coming in, not counting of course the stuff that has already been licensed but not started distribution

[Sun Tzu]

First Amendment to the constitution, and a fundamental part of the Bill Of Rights.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

[Corwin]

Yes I know, and I stated that it would be in a slight way a breach of First Amendment rights to free speech and freedom of the press, but the loophole there is, that the stuff isn't be made here, so they could ban it, all they have to do is place an import embargo on anime and manga related items, it's perfectly legitimate, but if Congress doesn't want the country breathing down their necks wondering what is next to be banned, they'll use the freedom of the press and freedom of speech arguments as a platform for not banning them

[Break001]

Psssh Anime Dieing I'm with Leerock hehe

[athrun0017]

Well i completly agree with Corwin on this one!

[monster111]

i would do one of two things 1 move to another country 2 contiue watching it on the internet.

[Poison]

im a bad speller and it will real f*#kin suck if they do dat its not hurting any1 :pissed:

there is no reason 4 them to stop receiving anime in the us

[soulten]

its hurt some people. such as the kid who coppied gaara and died and the girl who killed her dad because of school days the anime. but other than that not really

[Corwin]

I don't like using stuff like that as an argument, anime, just like video games and tv aren't to blame, it's the parents, the teachers, and the peers for not being a better influence, if your parents can't teach you not to jump off a bridge or put your head in front of a power saw, then how is that anime's fault?

[hikari]

if that would happen... I would not go to US even if I have to...*sigh*

[Felix42]

Even if they banned the import, couldn't the anime firms just produce it in the US?

Well I'm from Europe, so I'm safe. But i actually think that a ban might make more people watch anime. First because of the added interest because of the prohibition.

But i've also noticed that a lot of the people i know, have a lot of prejudice towards Anime. I think it's because they only know it from the children shows, and therefore they do not believe that its worth watching.
If they hadn't seen the anime shows in tv, i could probably get them to watch a lot easier.

(Of course they like it when they actually try it ::D:)

[Corwin]

They couldn't really produce it in the US to avoid the import law b/c they'd have to make everything from scratch again, starting w/ the animation and scripts, meaning it couldn't be the same show that they wanted to import or someone would A. figure it out. B. sue for copyright and intellectual property infringement.

And yes, it does seem to be a problem that most ppl associate anything animated w/ a children's show, so even when you show them blatantly mature animated shows, they view it more as an exception rather than proof, if you show them hentai they think it's just a perversion, not an example, and something like Blood+ or Death Note that have mature themes, they look at as an abnormality b/c animated features should be for children and they are unwilling to give them a chance, the key I've discovered, is get them interested in the storyline first, before you spring the fact that it's animated on them, that's how I've gotten ppl I know to watch

[Koopaking]

yeah I really hate it when people say that anime are for kids. It really just makes my blood boil. "Har Har you watch anime cartoons, those are for kids, I watch cool shows like Lost and stuff on MTV." I have had people say that to me before.

[Corwin]

MTV? that's just moronic, that entire network is aimed at 14yr old kids who don't know any better yet, and wth happened to the music, 2 MTV channels and barely any music between them, as for Lost, it is a great show, but people who are too prejudiced against anime to admit that it might be suitable for adults aren't worth time in my book

[leerock89]

Well I grew up with cartoons so going to anime was no big deal. Everyone else just has to realize its a different from cartoons. Just because both are animated doesn't mean they are the same thing.

[Koopaking]

yet these people are the same people who will then go watch shows like South Park, Family Guy, and The Simpsons (all funny animated shows I like, but most definitely not for kids) after they tell us animated shows are for children, because they have no idea what they are talking about.

[Corwin]

Good point Koopa, to be honest, I completely forgot about those as valid arguments, looks like it's time for me to brush up again on my idiot bashing arguments

[RzXzB]

Never gonna happen it's called freedom.

[Corwin]

Wow RzXzB, that argument just sends shivers down my spine with it's well thought out effectiveness and veracity. Because the US government has never done anything that might be considered a violation of our personal freedom's, whatever was I thinking when I assumed that they could possibly do something this stupid.

[Minato]

I BE PISSED THE F*& OFF IF I CANT DO NOTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH ANIME I GO CRAZY not that crazy now and i wont kill myself neighter but i be so mad

[Corwin]

huh minato, I think I may have understood that but I'm still not sure after having reread it a few times


***And arcose, the point of my statement wasn't how it would affect a single companies bottom line if they began banning things, it was a statement about economic policy in reference to the government since they would be the perpetrators in this situation, so saying that Sony would lose money because by following the line of reasoning, you would find video games banned as well that don't conform to a certain childish standard, doesn't really progress the discussion, rather it makes it look like you missed the point which I'm pretty sure you didn't

[Minato]

i say i go crazy i be mad cause all the things i mostly do has to do with anime like i draw anime,i play anime games,read mangas and all that kool stuff
hope i explaines it to u enough.....


hey corwin are u latin???

[Corwin]

No, I'm your average skinny white american, here to be biased, unreasonable, and to look down on people using English as a second language who can neither spell or speak correctly :p

[Minato]

ohhh k so wat ur first language then

[Corwin]

I was being sarcastic and facetious as I am an avg white american one could assume that my first language is....English....and around the world what are americans hated for in some cases, our constant attempts to make ppl speak english, and then mocking them for the improper usage of the language, it wasn't meant to be a comment that needed explanation, and yes I did learn a second language at one time, I learned spanish like half the kids in the english public school system, unfortunately I sucked, and can barely remember any of it

[Minato]

that suks my first language is spanish so im latin and my second is english and my third is goin to be japenese....
yea that suks when u learn something and u forget it happen to me alot

[Corwin]

it doesn't bother me, to be honest it's not like I was using Spanish all that much, that's part of the problem, french or spanish, being the two most common languages taught in the english school system are close to becoming a mandatory requirement just to get out of high school, but your average student doesn't seem to use the language more than once in a great while in which case it loses all meaning and they don't retain the knowledge, it would be different if I lived in a predominantly spanish speaking portion of the country for example, then I would have used it on a daily basis I imagine and have no problem recalling it, but at least spanish seems like a good choice for a mandatory school course, who the hell is using french on a regular basis in the US though? seems to me like it would be better to teach Japanese, not only would a lot of students(otaku) prefer it, Japanese and English are fast becoming the international languages of business, so it could have practical applications in the future