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hikari
05-29-2008, 04:06 AM
what gaming device would you prefer,, a Sony PSP or a Nintendo Wii..and why??

quietchat
05-29-2008, 04:12 AM
...... Why compare a handheld to a console?

Koopaking
05-29-2008, 04:18 AM
wtf this is the most worthless comparison ever. A handheld to a console? Nintendo DS or PSP, or PS3 and Wii would be better (Nintendo wins both of those though). But if you must compare, the Wii destroys the PSP, it isn't even a contest at all, the PSP is basically a worthless gaming device.

archangle
05-29-2008, 04:46 PM
Wii and PS3 both

Corwin
05-29-2008, 04:51 PM
yeah I'm with Koopa on this argument, sure there are a handful of games I would like to check out on both the PSP and the DS but neither of them hold a candle to a console system, that and I'm unwilling to spend $100+ on a handheld that I won't play unless I'm on a trip somewhere

Sadrith
05-29-2008, 05:35 PM
They ALL FAIL THE 360 OWNS THEM ALL

Blooddrunk
05-29-2008, 06:11 PM
Wii, there's no contest at all, but PS3 is better than both ^^

Corwin
05-29-2008, 06:45 PM
If the conversation is going to skew towards which system is the overall best I think the fight is going to have to come down to the Xbox360 and the PS3, while I love Nintendo and applaud the ingenuity of the Wii and it's cost as well, the number of major franchises, and rpg's in addition to the more mature content and larger library of games not aimed at 8yr old kids will win everytime, although I'd be tempted to go w/ the PS3 just b/c I'm a big fan of many of the rpg's they put out on Sony systems as rpg's are what I predominately play, but Xbox360 has had some recent games that really catch my eye and make me want to get one of those

quietchat
05-29-2008, 06:49 PM
If it's gonna be an argument of consoles there is no clear cut winner

Wii is for the casual market or for the old classics.
360 is for some of the more powerful and highly recieved games
ps3 is for the absolute hardcore gamers
Ds is for people who like to pick up and play for half an hour or so at a time.
psp is for people who really just don't care at all what they play so long as they get to lord over the shiny plastic.

Koopaking
05-29-2008, 06:53 PM
ah, but there is a clear cut winner, just look at the chart

http://www.vgchartz.com/

quietchat
05-29-2008, 06:55 PM
Holy crap. This makes me wonder how valid Microsoft's claim was, when they said they were the first console to hit 10 mill owners in the U.S. You also need to think about the fact that the Wii is a year younger than the 360, and practically the same age as the ps3.

Corwin
05-29-2008, 07:02 PM
yeah but I don't think that should really be used as an accurate listing of popularity, a large number of those sales were due to the ingenuity of the Wii and ppl's interest in trying it out, that doesn't mean that it does anything more than gather dust in their households now, also many of them were parents or grandparents buying new consoles for their children/grandchildren, and of course they would go with a system that is the least expensive and also geared towards children, but if you figure the casual game is 14-19, they have some money from allowances, and jobs to purchase their own stuff and I think they would be more inclined towards one of the two more mature systems, so in the end I would agree that is hard to pick a definitive winner

Koopaking
05-29-2008, 07:05 PM
it depends on how you define winner, actually. I think the public and the businesses have different views on what defines winner. We may say the winner is the one with the best games, the most innovation, etc. But I think to them, as it is with all business, the winner is the one who makes the most money.

quietchat
05-29-2008, 07:07 PM
If that were the case it would have to be the 360, since it still has very strong support and games, while the ps3 has very few big hits, and even games that seemed like hits turned out to flops, like Haze.

Plus, we have this from just last holiday season http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27842.html

Be sure you're watching it in flash, it just runs better

Corwin
05-29-2008, 07:14 PM
I understand why businesses would of course think that the winner is he who made the most money, but let's face it, it doesn't matter if the Xbox360 for example made the most money b/c it was the first next gen console out the gates and had a few good games, if they start putting out flops but still manage to keep the lead b/c of a heavy increase on profits during the initial boom, that doesn't make them the winner, ppl would stop buying their games and write the 360 off as an oversized paperweight, in the end it comes down to the consumer, and more importantly the avg gamer, b/c the system that can capture and keep the avg gamers attention is the system that will win b/c we will continue coming back trying out games that may or may not be the next big hit b/c we feel that they are challenging the boundaries of what they can create and what we have come to expect, that's exactly why the Wii became such a big hit when it came out even though it doesn't have a plethora of titles that really appeal to the avg gamer like the 360 and PS3 do

quietchat
05-29-2008, 07:47 PM
You're never gonna get rid of the fanboys though. Sony ones are especially bad since they are absolutly convinced that they will always end up on top.

Corwin
05-29-2008, 08:03 PM
well of course, that's a given, I imagine there are still a few fanboys screaming about how sega should make a new system while crying over the broken corpses of their Sega Saturn and Dreamcasts wondering why sega is only a developer after those flops, although I am still kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop so to speak in terms of the xbox, considering microsoft's track record w/ glitchy software, I'm waiting for them to put out the xbox720, it'll be gaming's version of Windows Vista, we'll see how long microsoft last in the console gaming business after that, but I will admit they have had some great ideas, they didn't invent internet connectivity for consoles, truth to be said, the N64 or maybe the PS1(dont' remember if this had connectivity) would have to be the one hoisting that flag for console's, but they made it more of a reality than any other system, although dreamcast did make a pretty good bid w/ the addictive Phantasy Star Online series, that was a fun game, but their greatest idea was the Xbox Live and Xbox Live Marketplace, I think those have the potential to save the xbox system if it ever commits a vista like blunder w/ a new system or game, the ability to parcel out new content for major games and potential franchises could keep the users happy and blind to the fact that they are paying a fortune in small fees for new content and that they are taking forever to fix current problems

Koopaking
05-29-2008, 08:07 PM
I only have Nintendo systems(except for a PSone), so I guess I could be called a Nintendo fanboy.

soulten
05-29-2008, 08:29 PM
I have psp and a wii, and i admit it is not fair to compete between console and handheld, but i would take a psp. you can do more and of the wii games only 3 really have my intrest the others are for little kids.plus if i didnt have my psp to listen to music at school i would have gone mad.

Rarewoods
05-29-2008, 10:36 PM
what gaming device would you prefer,, a Sony PSP or a Nintendo Wii..and why??



if it came to me have to pick between thos the wii for sure..unless i was goin to be in the car around more the the psp...so in the end i cant pick

Sadrith
05-29-2008, 10:47 PM
I proaly would go with the PSP ecause the WIIs inovation is wasted on crap except a few games Like the new resident evil game Ideas like on the rails shooters and Sword wielding games Thoes would all be good ideas Arcade style games. A councel worth is determend y its Quality games and features.

Koopaking
05-29-2008, 10:48 PM
I proaly would go with the PSP ecause the WIIs inovation is wasted on crap except a few games Like the new resident evil game Ideas like on the rails shooters and Sword wielding games Thoes would all be good ideas Arcade style games. A councel worth is determend y its Quality games and features.

what about all the great first party titles that are on the Wii? Zelda? Mario? Metroid? hmmmmm???

Sadrith
05-29-2008, 10:52 PM
First party wow I guess if people like them sure I could careless. ut to me platformers i would think would e difficult to play with a remote and not a controler

Koopaking
05-29-2008, 11:00 PM
First party wow I guess if people like them sure I could careless. ut to me platformers i would think would e difficult to play with a remote and not a controler

you "think" they would be difficult to play? ah so you haven't played them. The only platformer would be Super Mario Galaxy which actually works great and is a lot of fun. And also why do you say you can care less about first party titles? First party titles are the driving force behind any good console. They can only go so far solely depending on third party games.

Corwin
05-30-2008, 12:51 AM
yeah I'm kind of w/ Koopa on this one, I may not be a huge fan of the Wii, even though I love Nintendo I think they have lost their way, but the ingenuity behind the Wii is great, and the possibilities for the titles are amazing, I think the problem there beyond the lack of more mature titles is that it will take a little while for game developers to get used to the possibilities of the Wii's control system and come up w/ great ideas for how to use it, the PSP is really just Sony trying for the second time to make money of the GameBoy system's success after the failure of the PocketStation, which could have really helped Sony out if they had marketed it a little more back then

quietchat
05-30-2008, 12:57 AM
What the hell is a pocketstation?

soulten
05-30-2008, 12:59 AM
But nintendo has lost all it imagination. it is just remakes of old games, or continuations. How about a new character or some really old ones. I beilieve the psp is there to compete with DS and so on, not a second try. So koopa how much have you played the PSP, i really hope you played both instead of what sounds like " oh i have a wii, so why even bother with a PSP."

quietchat
05-30-2008, 01:04 AM
.... I'm sure I could think of some remakes or continuations for the psp. Like Daxter's game where he sprays bugs, a Ratchet Game, A Ghosts and Goblins, Castlevania (Which was a re-release), splinter cell, Earthworm Jim (was cancled, but would have been a re-release anyway) and monster hunters.

Corwin
05-30-2008, 01:16 AM
oh yes and Sony and Microsoft are so ingenious recycling the Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, Rainbow Six, and Splinter Cell titles, by your line of reasoning every game should be a completely new franchise, no sequels, as for the PSP, I have played it, I really just didn't like it, it's an oversized game boy w/ a lot of features that are only marginally useful added in to pretend that it's not an oversized gameboy and to jack up the price, as for the pocketstation, that was sony's first attempt at a portable game system, it was on par w/ the Dreamcast VMU's, there was even a minigame for FFVII or FFVIII that you could access on it w/ your memory card, unfortunately they couldn't or didn't provide/get enough support for it, so it flopped, never making it out of Japan, although you can get them on Ebay if you want to check out the few accessible games on it or are just a sony fanboy who wants a collectible

quietchat
05-30-2008, 01:33 AM
I always thought the psp was their first attempt. Then again they didn't seem to learn much from all of Nintendo's past handheld foes. the classic gameboy, black and greenish and white, 10 hour battery. GameGear, 4 pounds, great graphics, but 2 hour batter. Then we should also be reminded of the N-Gage.

Koopaking
05-30-2008, 01:38 AM
But nintendo has lost all it imagination. it is just remakes of old games, or continuations. How about a new character or some really old ones. I beilieve the psp is there to compete with DS and so on, not a second try. So koopa how much have you played the PSP, i really hope you played both instead of what sounds like " oh i have a wii, so why even bother with a PSP."

You are absolutely right, I haven't played the PSP. I have never wanted to play it, ever since it came out, even before the Wii even existed. Like I originally stated, the argument of PSP against Wii is completely irrelevant because they are different levels.

And Nintendo arguably has the most imagination out of the game developers. The thing about "really old ones" is that most of Nintendo's franchises have been going on for 20 years plus, and still are fun to play. "Remakes of old games, or continuations" yes a continuation aka a sequel is what drives a franchise forward. They aren't making everything based off old franchises either. Many new IP's have been started by Nintendo not that long ago either like, Nintendogs, Chibi-Robo, Brain Age, Odama, Warioware, Custom Robo(been around a long time in Japan), Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, and more.

The only reason why people pull the card "oh it's just another remake or sequel" with Nintendo is because they have been around so long. Nintendo basically pioneered modern gaming. If it weren't for them, games would have died with the Video Game Crash of the early 80's. I may just sound like a fanboy making a fit, but they are not dead.

soulten
05-30-2008, 01:42 AM
I mean if there would be another nintendo system it will probably have another mario game, a sports game , and some kind of mario kart. they just seem to be repeating.

leerock89
05-30-2008, 01:43 AM
All of you are losers. I have an Atari. That beats everything ever.

quietchat
05-30-2008, 01:45 AM
You mean like how ever sony console has to have something that competes with it's current rival? Crash to Mario, Killzone to Halo, Haze to Halo, King of Fighters to Halo... I mean dead or alive.

Corwin
05-30-2008, 01:46 AM
Hear hear Koopa, well said, I agree w/ you completely, in continuing his argument what about Final Fantasy, Nintendo helped to pioneer that as well, and if not for a spat between the owners of Nintendo and Square, Final Fantasy would never have made it to the Sony systems, if you want to really go that route, Sony and Microsoft took a lot of their titles from other game systems, Microsoft took Banjo Kazooie from Nintendo, Sony picked up Final Fantasy and the Chrono Trigger franchise from Nintendo as well, as for the PSP, who really needs the ability to watch movies on a handheld gaming device screen, that just seems kind of stupid, I have to have a copy of a movie on a umd and a dvd if I want to watch it on my tv at home, why not just get a portable dvd player and an ipod, which also covers the music player aspect

soulten
05-30-2008, 01:48 AM
good point, why by 2 copies of same movie just so you can watch outside of you house on a 3x2 screen?

Corwin
05-30-2008, 01:48 AM
Yes b/c 3 halo's across to Xbox Systems, 17 Final Fantasy games across 4 Nintendo systems, 2 xbox systems and 4 Sony systems, yeah, Nintendo is the only one who could be accused of repeating franchises

soulten
05-30-2008, 01:49 AM
but if reapeting keeps it alive who cares.

quietchat
05-30-2008, 01:52 AM
.... What?

Corwin
05-30-2008, 02:01 AM
he may not have agreed w/ us in his personal opinion but he seems to have conceded the argument, at least on the basis that it is just going on and on

quietchat
05-30-2008, 02:07 AM
Oh. It's hard to tell with poor grammer

Corwin
05-30-2008, 02:17 AM
while I agree that the internet is causing a world of problems w/ poor grammar and acronyms that shouldn't be used outside a chatbox or a txt message, I don't think it's really a good idea to call someone out on it unless you can be absolutely positive that your posts are linguistically and grammatically correct each and every time, and even then, it makes you(or anyone else who does it) sound like a pompous jackass when they do call someone on it, I know since I tend to call ppl out on their spelling or grammar on the avg of at least once a week

Koopaking
05-30-2008, 02:20 AM
yes Corwin, there are certain things that are for use on the internet and the internet only. I swear, every time I hear some stupid bimbo actually say "OMG" out loud it irritates the hell out of me.

quietchat
05-30-2008, 02:26 AM
Real life or online?

Koopaking
05-30-2008, 02:27 AM
in real life, people walking around and actually saying internet acronyms

soulten
05-30-2008, 02:27 AM
like when sombody says a joke and somebody replies LOL

quietchat
05-30-2008, 02:30 AM
I've never seen anyone like that.... BUT, remember those (I think) Vonage comercials where the kids are only talking in chatspeak? Then the grandmother does it too?

Corwin
05-30-2008, 02:33 AM
yeah, that is an example of it, what is sad that some ppl, mostly seems to be 13-22 actually talk like that, is it really that hard to laugh or say oh my god in surprise, I understand on the internet it's a faster way to type, my issue is w/ ppl who can't even spell or understand the usage of half the words they are trying to use, or can't piece together a sentence well enough that anyone can understand them, there is something to be said for the expediency of acronyms, but not every word in a language should be an acronym, otherwise you end up having to explain everything ur saying which defeats the purpose of expediency

quietchat
05-30-2008, 02:38 AM
worst... commercials... ever

Corwin
05-30-2008, 02:40 AM
I don't know about worst,but yes definitely bad, I'm not that fond of any of the cell phone commercials although the Christmahanakwanzaka commercial sprint or verizon did was amusing at first

quietchat
05-30-2008, 02:44 AM
what about the ones where it's the guys dressed like giant balls saying "Where you at?"

Corwin
05-30-2008, 02:51 AM
amusing at first, but rapidly lost it's appeal, sort of like Verizon's "Can you hear me now?" slogan, it's a great, easy, catchy slogan, but give it a rest already

Sadrith
05-30-2008, 02:52 AM
I'm lost what happpend to the actuall disscution and yeah I have a idiot friend who laughs at things and uses acronims sorry i have poor spelling ut i try still.

Corwin
05-30-2008, 02:56 AM
yes the topic kind of wandered Sadrith, but that's what happens when we don't leave the topic alone long enough for the rest of the community to get in here and voice their opinion as well, someone says something and we respond to it and we slowly move away from the original topic, it's not bad, but technically we could call it off topic, although by this point it doesn't really matter

quietchat
05-30-2008, 03:02 AM
Then again the OP wasn't well thought out.

Corwin
05-30-2008, 03:16 AM
very true, but you have to admit it did it's job in sparking a lively discussion

Sadrith
05-30-2008, 03:21 AM
eh oh well I think it was going to e another favorite game playing thing anyways

kitty-kat
05-30-2008, 03:25 AM
yes Nintendo all the way *jumps up and down clapping* must admit thought the games they come out with could be more like the PS systems as far as online connection is concerned!!!

Corwin
05-30-2008, 03:44 AM
I don't know about that, I think both Sony and Nintendo could learn a thing or two from Xbox Live, as I said that was a genius idea, but I would like to see a larger more comprehensive library of games on Nintendo, that would really restore my faith in them

animaniac
05-30-2008, 03:07 PM
Nothing beats Family Computer!!!


or something like that.

quietchat
05-30-2008, 03:24 PM
Do you even know what the family computer is?

Sadrith
05-30-2008, 04:28 PM
The japanese NES right

quietchat
05-30-2008, 04:39 PM
Yup. Also called Famicom, featuring a red and yellow gold style instead of our gray.

Corwin
05-31-2008, 06:22 AM
and of course it also had a lot more peripherals than the US version, in fact for all that Nintendo says they don't want to add media peripherals to their systems like Sony and Microsoft does, one of the Famicon systems had a dvd attachment

Koopaking
05-31-2008, 06:27 AM
Corwin, you are probably be referring to the Famicom Disk system, where they had the games on the floppy disks where you could go and erase the game off the disk and copy a new one onto it for like 700 yen at special machines. They kept the machines running for a long long time, they quit officially supporting them with additional games in 2000 but you can still find them in game stores around Japan, just don't expect any new titles.

Sun Tzu
05-31-2008, 06:29 AM
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sony_bullshit

And to answer your question before hand, yes I got one of those for everything.

Koopaking
05-31-2008, 06:32 AM
you know I was bored today and read every single article on that website today Sun Tzu. I think that guy is absolutely hilarious.

Sun Tzu
05-31-2008, 06:34 AM
you know I was bored today and read every single article on that website today Sun Tzu. I think that guy is absolutely hilarious.

Damn you got free time, cant say I havent done the exact same thing however.

Corwin
05-31-2008, 06:50 AM
While I may not agree w/ him completely about Sony, I did find his views on the PSP very amusing, it does seem a little odd that in a world that now has 3 major game systems competing that Sony would take the time to scratch their collective ass instead of working to make things function correctly

quietchat
06-01-2008, 03:49 AM
Personally it seems like even trying to beat the nintendo handhelds will be impossible. The only way to beat it is to not compete it. When the standard of handheld gaming goes down when there's no one to compete with, is when you would actually be able to come in and beat it... then again, Nintendo didn't have anyone to compete with when they released the NES either and it shot up the standard of gaming 100 fold from Atari.

Koopaking
06-01-2008, 03:53 AM
yeah the NES pretty much saved video games in North America. After the crash in 83, nobody even wanted anything to do with games in the US, but here comes this Japanese company with their new game system, which they actually had to disguise as a robot toy in order for stores to put it on their shelves. If the NES hadn't come along, who knows, gaming might have just faded away like any old fad.

quietchat
06-01-2008, 03:58 AM
They did somthing else that got it on shelves though. They did a test in New York, and told the stores that they would buy back any unsold systems. And well, 80% of the supply sold. But it was enough for them to decide to have a full launch.

animaniac
06-01-2008, 04:02 AM
Yeah it's the best

NO ONE beats it cause it beats itself

Corwin
06-01-2008, 04:08 AM
Well I'm just glad the launch worked out, i don't know what I would do sometimes w/o video games, if Nintendo hadn't launched the Playstation may never have had a chance either

quietchat
06-01-2008, 04:10 AM
The playstation wouldn't even have been invented, Nintendo was the one that was origionally creating the system (It would have been joint cd/cartridge) but dropped it. Sony kept the blueprints and all the other stuff for it, as they were developing the sound and processing for the system.

Corwin
06-01-2008, 04:34 AM
that's kind of what I meant, also you figure if the Nintendo had never made it's debut over here, it isn't just the Playstation that would have suffered, Microsoft would never have felt the need to break into the console market w/ the xbox, although I could be wrong, they may have come in a lot earlier, and they may just not have gotten as good as they are now since they wouldn't have really had any competition

quietchat
06-01-2008, 04:44 AM
Then again you have to look at the market trend at the time too. No one wanted to deal with video games, not after the crash. If Nintendo didn't branch out into games, there was a good chance that we still wouldn't have gaming. Besides that, Microsoft follows the market trends pretty closely, and at the time Computers started to get big. So, they may have stuck to creating computer software and maybe hardware. Then again without gaming we may still be running on somthing similar to windows 95, since there wouldn't be much more need to upgrade.

Corwin
06-01-2008, 04:53 AM
yeah that was kind of what I meant, even if Microsoft had gone into the gaming market w/o the advent of Nintendo and Playstation in the US, they wouldn't have had any competitors meaning we might be running a SNES quality version of the Xbox, which let's face it, would suck, but we wouldn't know any better, either that or they would make more of a push for PC gaming and better PC game controllers, meaning there would probably be a larger selection of gaming dedicated PC's, and maybe even an OS to install designed specifically to play the Games for Windows, while it would essentially turn the PC into a console system, they would be making a ton of money that way b/c you'd need the computer, Windows, and the game system OS in addition to the games and controllers

quietchat
06-01-2008, 04:59 AM
There is another possibility. Arcades were still established at the time, though pretty much dead. It's possible that a revival for them would have been attempted, but more likely is that it would have led to another crash with the machines limited to the 4 bit and 8 bit design.

Corwin
06-01-2008, 05:10 AM
Considering how many kids I always see in the arcades playing Time Crisis, Fist of the North Star, DDR, Silent Scope, Initial D, and a few other racing games I'm kind of surprised that arcade games died so quickly, yes I understand that pc and especially console gaming killed them, but arcades are still huge over in Japan where they have much larger libraries of games and peripherals to choose from, I guess that if I to take at stab at why, it would be that there are a lot more over then, something on the average of one every so many blocks, sort of like 7-Eleven or McDonalds in the US, whereas in the US, as a kid you had to get your parents to drive you somewhere to go play them, and then convince them to give you $1 per game which is ridiculous, but over there they are relatively cheap and a few w/in walking distance, plus they get a lot more arcade games too, cooler also

quietchat
06-01-2008, 05:23 AM
Yeah. Did you hear a few months ago that arcades were complaining about the Wii pulling their business away? They were saying that it kept people from going out t the arcades to have fun and instead kept them home all day. Then again you would consider that the case for every game console (Cept the x-boxes.)

Corwin
06-01-2008, 07:54 AM
to be honest, I understand their point of view but at the same I think it's a bad argument, it's not the Wii that's pulling ppl away from the arcades, it's a combination of their prices, poor selection, and lack of new games, seems to me like they'd be better of porting the arcade games to consoles for cheap, like take 2 or 3 console games or more, slap them on a disc, and sell it for $30 bucks, sure you won't make the kind of money you might on an arcade over time, but there is no guarantee that anyone would go to the arcade to play it, and u figure the game company is only making money off the initial sale of the machine, that's why arcades cost so much to play at b/c they are trying to recoup the cost of the machine

quietchat
06-01-2008, 04:57 PM
What do you think the chances are that arcades will actually die/die within the next 10 years or so?

animaniac
06-01-2008, 05:01 PM
yeah I loved Time Crisis 2
and the House of the Dead 2-4

I already memorized whole TC 2

Koopaking
06-01-2008, 05:07 PM
I think arcades would be cool if they revived them. I mean the old original arcades, it wasn't just the games, it was the atmosphere, that brought people back with bags of quarters. A place to hang out with your buddies afterschool and blow a month's worth of allowance. A huge dark, room illuminated only by the lit up screens all around.

Nowadays, you just find arcade cabinets wherever, no more specialized arcades. In movie theaters, pizza parlors, dentist offices, Chuck E. Cheese. I think also a reason arcades are fading away is because back when they were prevalent, you went there and played the most powerful games of the time. Your consoles at home wouldn't be able to run those arcade games, they had better graphics and newer technology than your system. Now its the other way around, with most arcades now having graphics close to maybe PS2 technology, with the home consoles blowing them away.

quietchat
06-01-2008, 06:16 PM
There's not alot of places that are just pure arcade anymore. Any machine strong enough to play somthing like what we have now though would need too much power and effort, to the point that the price is a dollar a game.

Russkie
06-01-2008, 09:23 PM
I like the PC the most, I feel I can do more with a computer than with just one consol. I don't have to upgrade every 4-5 years to play the newest games if I dont want to.

Corwin
06-01-2008, 10:55 PM
yeah but you don't get all the same games that you do w/ a console, it's the same argument too, ppl end up upgrading their pc's every 4-5 years just to keep them functioning much less keep them playing games, if you play games you have to sit there and upgrade your memory, video, and sound cards repeatedly, so it seems like somewhat of a spurious argument, as for the arcades, while I'm tempted to say that consoles and pc gaming caused the downfall of the modern arcade, they are still going incredibly strong in Japan, which is practically the birthplace and continued cradle of gaming, so it's kind of hard to make that argument, I think it's easier to say that too many ppl here are interested in the bottom line, so it costs more per play for an arcade game, and they are less likely to make big arcades like they used to, and of course our parents don't give us much in allowance proportionally as the Japanese children are given relative to the cost of the arcade games here, so even if we had a big arcade 10min walk from our homes, we wouldn't have the money to play at $.50-2.00 a play, now if someone could get an arcade set up in a centralized location that kids could get to w/o parental transportation, and keep the prices down to $.25 or less, then we might see a revival in the arcade, but they'd still need like 40-50 machines, not just a couple brand new ones or a few great classics

RzXzB
06-15-2008, 07:42 PM
A Sony PSP because you can take it anywhere.

suune
06-23-2008, 03:26 PM
All together of course...besides how can you even compare such things!?

Xunlai
06-25-2008, 06:14 AM
This Is An Epic Fail! 360 Ownz All!

quietchat
06-25-2008, 05:23 PM
You forgot that the wii is winning everywhere

Elegroth
06-29-2008, 09:47 PM
A better site to see the best selling Consoles and Handhelds is the Following:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles

My Personal choice would be PSP though, there are way to many games I would love to play on that system.

This Is An Epic Fail! 360 Ownz All!

In my opinion the best systems are in this order.

1. Sony Systems
2. Nintendo Systems
3. Microsoft Systems

Actually, I really don't like the 360. You have to pay just to play online and there are only 3 games I would like to play on it, only because they are only on the 360.

Mugen
06-29-2008, 09:50 PM
I'm a 360 fan! :)

Elegroth
06-29-2008, 10:04 PM
I'm, sorta, a Sony fan. I like Nintendo just as much as Sony though, I don't really care for the 360 just because technically the PS3 is cheaper is better as far as I'm concerned.

Blue Ray Player: $299.99
Playstation 3: $499.99

Playstation 3 (Excluding Blue Ray): $200
Xbox 360: $299.99

Therefore, the PS3 is actually cheaper than the Xbox 360, but it comes with a Blue Ray Player that will automatically update itself. The price of the Blue Ray Player at the current update would be about $499.99 so it basically updated $200 for free.

Also, I just like the PS3 better, lol.

Mugen
06-29-2008, 10:08 PM
PS3 online community is dead online...and I was playing UT3!

monsoon 10
06-29-2008, 10:36 PM
I have faith in my playstation 3.

suune
06-30-2008, 08:18 AM
I definitely like Wii!

Where else can you jump around like an idiot and have a fairly good reason for that?

Jello
06-30-2008, 01:50 PM
i agree with the fact that nintendo wins

(personal story) it seem to me that nintendo stuff doesnt break as easily. two of my friends both had a ps2, but the both broke in a few years. one of them got a new one, and that also broke. and yet, the one friend of mine who had two ps2's had an N64 and it still works after, like, 10 years. his gamecube still works also, after, like, 6 years!

anyway, that's my story

alsharid
06-30-2008, 10:04 PM
The wii wins all.
XBOX 360 is a nice system, but doesn't really have what I need.
PS3 is well........ok in its own way, it has great third party games in my opinion, but I am nintendo fan, plus the Ps3 takes way too much electricity(4 times more than a fridge)

Elegroth
07-01-2008, 03:04 PM
i agree with the fact that nintendo wins

(personal story) it seem to me that nintendo stuff doesnt break as easily. two of my friends both had a ps2, but the both broke in a few years. one of them got a new one, and that also broke. and yet, the one friend of mine who had two ps2's had an N64 and it still works after, like, 10 years. his gamecube still works also, after, like, 6 years!

anyway, that's my story

I agree, I've had my Gamecube since it came out and it still works fine, I've gone through 3 PS2s, would have been 2 if my mom didn't break the first, but the slim seems to work fine now since we've had it for over a year with no problems.

My Opinion is the Sony does better overtime, but Nintendo does as well as possible when they start. I also seem to get the impression the Microsoft doesn't care, they just want money.

Stark
07-03-2008, 10:56 PM
PlayStation 3

Mugen
07-03-2008, 11:28 PM
I'm getting a PS3 soon. I have a choice. 20gig with 2 games or 40 gig with one game. :/

Elegroth
07-04-2008, 02:34 AM
I'd say a 40 GIG with one game just because the 20 GIG doesn't play PS2 or PS Games. Also, the space will be take quick from games that download 1 GIG or more onto the hard drive.

Bass Test
07-07-2008, 12:02 PM
I'd say a 40 GIG with one game just because the 20 GIG doesn't play PS2 or PS Games. Also, the space will be take quick from games that download 1 GIG or more onto the hard drive.

Agrees. That's the only bad thing about PS3, freckin lazy SONY, stopping production of 40 gigs. Oh and my opinion on this subject PS3 because of Dynasty Warriors but Wii next in line with Super Smash Bros Brawl. But we must remember Duke Nukem comes out for the PS3.

Elegroth
07-07-2008, 12:13 PM
I didn't know they stopped production for 40 GIGs too! I knew about the 60 GIG stopped being made after the first or second shipment, for some reason, I don't know why and I have a 60 GIG

madame lee
07-07-2008, 12:15 PM
Well I have to go with the PSP then the Wii, Sure I like Nintendo but Wii is more of a party system. I like some of the games on the Wii but it's better to play in a group then by your self.

Now if I had to choose between any game system then I'd have to go with Either XBOX360 or Yobo.

Mugen
07-08-2008, 01:55 PM
I'd say a 40 GIG with one game just because the 20 GIG doesn't play PS2 or PS Games. Also, the space will be take quick from games that download 1 GIG or more onto the hard drive.
40 gig and MGS 4. Thanks for the help, Ele. ^^

sousuke
07-08-2008, 02:45 PM
yes great choice mugen. they DID stop production of 40 an 60 but they brought it back. it doesnt matter which model u get to as long as it has wat u need here are specs.
20gig
4 usb ports, micro sd slots, CAN play ps1-23 games, no wifi
40gig
2 usb ports, no extra memory slots, only ps1 an 3 games, wifi
60 gig
4 usb ports, micro sd slots, other memory slots, ps123 games, wifi
80gig
everything above but 6-8 usb ports

i would gor for 60gig bcuz it dosent encrypt ps2 games on hdd
but it doesnt matter about space to bcuz u can change hdd (any model) W/a whopping 320gig hdd
an obviously i choose ps3 i have 40gig gonna be 320gig soon XD

Mugen
07-08-2008, 02:46 PM
yes great choice mugen. they DID stop production of 40 an 60 but they brought it back. it doesnt matter which model u get to as long as it has wat u need here are specs.
20gig
4 usb ports, micro sd slots, CAN play ps1-23 games, no wifi
40gig
2 usb ports, no extra memory slots, only ps1 an 3 games, wifi 60 gig
4 usb ports, micro sd slots, other memory slots, ps123 games, wifi
80gig
everything above but 6-8 usb ports

i would gor for 60gig bcuz it dosent encrypt ps2 games on hdd
but it doesnt about space to bcuz u can change hdd (any model) W/a whopping 320gig hdd
an obviously i choose ps3 i have 40gig gonna be 320gig soon XD


It can't play Ps2 games? What a bummer!!

sousuke
07-08-2008, 02:49 PM
yea u didnt kno? lol

Mugen
07-08-2008, 02:50 PM
Why is that?? That's so freaking stupid!!!

sousuke
07-08-2008, 02:56 PM
yea i know the only thing i can think of is that sony wants 40gig to be the average model so it has to be average

Mugen
07-08-2008, 07:29 PM
Well....I'll just have to grit my teeth and like it. Still, I've got my PS2 and it works fine. :)

sousuke
07-09-2008, 12:46 AM
u should get a ps3 i have an i got mgs4 XD

Mugen
07-09-2008, 01:26 PM
You can play MGS online, right? I'll be sure to add you, buddy. ^_^

Elegroth
07-09-2008, 02:42 PM
40gig
2 usb ports, no extra memory slots, only ps1 an 3 games, wifi


Really! That must be recent, because last time I checked only the 20 GIG couldn't play PS2 games. :mad:

Well, sorry for giving you bad information about the 40 GIG Mugen. I'll doublecheck my sources before I say anything from now on.

PS: I have Metal Gear Solid 4 too. Once my mom's husband fixes my account so that my account CAN play "M Rated" Games I'll tell ya.