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Sun Tzu
05-16-2008, 05:32 AM
I was pulling my kayak outa the lake today, and I got to thinking that people seem to make getting a girlfriend so complicated. So I thought about it for a few minutes and I came to a perhaps, strange, and rather depressing conclusion. This is just my opinion so please don't take it as truth, to each person their view on the matter will be entirely different. And a person that has not experianced true love is perhaps the least qualified person to form an opinion on this. Or perhaps its the other way around?

True love is nothing more than an illusion of affection and need. See, when I women searches for a mate (for thats the way it is guys, not the other way around) she looks for the most qualified candidate that possesses the strongest and most viable genes. Genes that will insure the best and brightest offspring capable of surviving in the world.

Now each womens priorities are different, but there are some universal ones.

#1 For one, a women searches for a man that is capable of protecting her and the future offspring. In that manner guys if you want to levy the stakes a little in your favor, act fearlessly, and be a little protective. So crush that nasty spider, if theres something unknown make sure to approach it first and warn her to stay back, and always stand up to the asshole at the bar. This is the biggest, and the most important of the three rules. If you forget the other 2, then at least remember this one.

#2 A man must show a women that he is capable of providing for her, and through that, the eventual child. That is why guys, we pay for the dinner, we pay for the movie, and we pick the women up. In the prehistoric days where most of our evolution took place, it was the man that brought back the meat, while the women stayed at home to take care of the child. Nowadays the meat is money, but the basic concept remains the same. We as a man during the courting process have to show that we are capable of bringing home the bacon.

#3 A show of dominance is a must. In human society as it is in wolf packs, women only breed with the Alpha Male. Perhaps to a lesser extent, but to some degree it is the same. As a male you have to set yourself apart from the pack and show that you are better than those around you. You are the leader. School yard bullying is a fine example of this. Tussle with your friends, but always apear dominate among them, wrestling matches, races, anything physical, mental or otherwise. As long as the women is watching you have to win. Now if you do lose, which you will sometimes, you have to downplay your loss, and make it seem like the other only won because of some cheap trick, or cheating.

Compliments, flirtations, and other things are simply icing on the cake. To show a women that you are interested, before she decides to choose you. Every women is different, but these are the 3 main points, and if you adhere to them you should be able to get any girl of your choice.

So ive shown you my take on the whole human mating scene, no idea if this is correct. These are simply theories, completely untested. So take them how you will.

animaniac
05-16-2008, 07:38 AM
Something is fishy with #3.

I agree with dominating but you have to have sportsmanship especially if you were to start the competition.

spirit
05-16-2008, 08:01 AM
Hey, very nice essay. However, it can be seen from different angles. And If we are talking in general or about the stereotypes ~ yes, that could be a "universal theory." You've mentioned a couple of times a matter of procreation; it's one of the aspects of what are (some) women looking for in the "mr. Right"... to find the 'perfect gens' etc. However, there are women that don't want to have kids, never did and never will.... it's not like each and every of us is "programmed" in a same way - 'cause the "Mother Nature" sometimes tricks us ..... even being "gay" is not tightly connected only with humans but also it can be observed in the nature (ex. dolphins).
Ahh, It's a wide topic. I wish I had more energy to talk about it. I haven't slept last night so....
Anyway, even though ppl like to generalize stuff, it's not so simple and unequivocal.
We could certainly discuss this subject in a more philosophical way ^^ -- is Love a triumph of imagination over the intelligence?
ps. sorry for any mistakes but I'm truly exhausted.. :dead:
haha, I know i'll go get some energy drink or soda at CVS ^^ [pepsi addict]

Sun Tzu
05-16-2008, 08:45 AM
Hey, very nice essay. However, it can be seen from different angles. And If we are talking in general or about the stereotypes ~ yes, that could be a "universal theory." You've mentioned a couple of times a matter of procreation; it's one of the aspects of what are (some) women looking for in the "mr. Right"... to find the 'perfect gens' etc. However, there are women that don't want to have kids, never did and never will.... it's not like each and every of us is "programmed" in a same way - 'cause the "Mother Nature" sometimes tricks us ..... even being "gay" is not tightly connected only with humans but also it can be observed in the nature (ex. dolphins).
Ahh, It's a wide topic. I wish I had more energy to talk about it. I haven't slept last night so....
Anyway, even though ppl like to generalize stuff, it's not so simple and unequivocal.
We could certainly discuss this subject in a more philosophical way ^^ -- is Love a triumph of imagination over the intelligence?
ps. sorry for any mistakes but I'm truly exhausted.. :dead:
haha, I know i'll go get some energy drink or soda at CVS ^^ [pepsi addict]

Hehe. Well if you remove the child aspect of a relationship my entire argument falls to shit. But the fact is you can not remove the child aspect. I deal with the sub conscience of a women, and man. Deep down the most fundamental urge in everyone is to pass your genes on. Thats why we search for a relationship with the opposite sex, why men search for sex, and why women search for a lasting relationship. Whether or not a women "wants" a child is completely moot. The fact is that if she is searching for a prospective mate then deep down she has an urge to breed. If she truly doesn't want kids, or even the prospective of children then she isn't looking for a mate.

Again I feel I should remind everyone, Im dealing with the sub conscience, which is a very primitive, but complex organism that controls all of our movements and decisions. We might not think it, but some of our basic actions are motivated by the pursuit of sex, and the opportunity to breed. Its too prevalent a need to be removed so carelessly when we made the leap from animal, to a sentient organism. This deep rooted control center protects us when we are scared, and ensures the continuation of our species. It is the reason there is racism, but it is also the reason we are here today talking on the internet. Its everywhere, and it affects more than we could possibly imagine.

As for each of us not being programmed the same way, its an extremely good point. While in the finer points you are of course, correct. But in the rough and tumble you are incorrect. Nature programmed us for survival, love comes second to this instinct. When you place your hand on something hot, your first reaction is to pull your hand away swiftly. If you are harmed by something or someone, you tend to shy away from that thing, and all things that look alike to it. We feel wariness towards something that is different instead of charging head first in to investigate. We feel humiliation when in an embarrassing situation, and we feel fear, sometimes without really knowing why. All of these things point to a sub conscience, and the basic building blocks of human thought. They are not conscience thoughts, and they effect everything we do. From taking the garbage out, to yes, seeking a mate.

In addition to being gay it is a fluke. An abnormality in either our genetic, or mental structure. Unfortunately it is a genetic dead end for obvious reasons. It is also a extremely complex issue bordering on the philosophical as well as the scientific ends of the spectrum. Complex question indeed, for they are still people and should have the ability to perform whatever lifestyle comes most naturally to them. But is it a behavior fluke? Abnormality in hormones? Or is it indeed genetic? Im not stating something is wrong with the homosexual population, Im merely questioning what causes it, the same way I might question what triggers heterosexuality. Unfortunately with no specific cause to point to I do not believe it should be applied directly to this argument.

Again this is merely the musing of the uneducated, I could be wrong. Im not saying your point is invalid Sp!r!t, im merely saying from a basic perspective it is invalid. If you wish to discuss the philosophy of true love, and how the human race searches for it Id be more than happy to. But my point in this thread is to point out that the human race is driven through sub conscience means, and this is in my opinion, the best way to take advantage of them.

PS: Pepsi > Coke

savvy1
05-16-2008, 08:46 AM
hmm i didn't really like the title you chose for this thread because of the word "womanizing" <--- womanizing is a bad thing (womanizing means that you are only looking at and speaking to women in perverted ways), i can't think of any women he would even want to communicate with a womanizer..

ok well besides that i kind of agree with #s 1 and 2, but not so much #3

ever since feminism came along there are a lot of women who would prefer that their men weren't so dominant.. i guess i just don't like the word "dominance" so much.. to me it's just saying that in the relationship the man will have all the control, and that idea just makes me really uneasy.. i see male dominance in general as an issue (and i don't mean only in relationships)

for number three if you replaced the word "dominance" with "confidence" then i would agree with you

Sun Tzu
05-16-2008, 08:59 AM
hmm i didn't really like the title you chose for this thread because of the word "womanizing" <--- womanizing is a bad thing (womanizing means that you are only looking at and speaking to women in perverted ways), i can't think of any women he would even want to communicate with a womanizer..

ok well besides that i kind of agree with #s 1 and 2, but not so much #3

ever since feminism came along there are a lot of women who would prefer that their men weren't so dominant.. i guess i just don't like the word "dominance" so much.. to me it's just saying that in the relationship the man will have all the control, and that idea just makes me really uneasy.. i see male dominance in general as an issue (and i don't mean only in relationships)

for number three if you replaced the word "dominance" with "confidence" then i would agree with you

I apologize if I made this unclear. In that paragraph when I chose the word dominance I was not referring to the direct relationship between a man and women. Instead I was referring to the relationship between men and the others around them. Dominance can take many forms, but one is in being the leader of a group of people. Being the focus of the conversation for example. When I state this I don't mean being talked about, but the person that everyone laughs along with, the one that everyone keeps at least one of their eyes on to see their reaction, the one that the others look to for guidance.

People naturally gravitate to a leadership figure. Women are no difference, and the advance in social status often times makes you more viable as a mate. In addition being dominate is an easy way to seperate yourself from the herd, and draw attention to yourself.

For example, would you rather be the driver of a limo, or the man riding in the back? Nobody pays attention to the driver, its always the man in the back that gets the attention. Unless the driver does something so incredibly bad ass, and the passenger was just a whiny bitch sniveling and complaining as the driver rocketed off a freaking cliff onto a giant pillow. But I drift.

You don't need to dominate the women, in fact sometimes thats not desirable. But you do need to dominate your friends.

animaniac
05-16-2008, 09:08 AM
Good then my understanding of "dominating" is correct.

savvy1
05-16-2008, 09:09 AM
I apologize if I made this unclear. In that paragraph when I chose the word dominance I was not referring to the direct relationship between a man and women. Instead I was referring to the relationship between men and the others around them. Dominance can take many forms, but one is in being the leader of a group of people. Being the focus of the conversation for example. When I state this I don't mean being talked about, but the person that everyone laughs along with, the one that everyone keeps at least one of their eyes on to see their reaction, the one that the others look to for guidance.

People naturally gravitate to a leadership figure. Women are no difference, and the advance is social status often times makes you more viable as a mate. In addition being dominate is an easy way to seperate yourself from the herd, and draw attention to yourself.

You don't need to dominate the women, in fact sometimes thats not desirable. But you do need to dominate your friends.

oh ok.. thanks for clearing that up.. yea i agree that people tend to gravitate toward the leader of a group

spirit
05-16-2008, 09:10 AM
LOL, now the only thing I need to do is "copy" and "paste".. and my work for tomorrow's English essay is done ;] thanks to You, Sun Tsu!!!
haha, no.. just kidding! But seriously.. It's a NOVEL! I'll certainly read your replies as soon as I get some rest... it's after 4 am :/ I'm a nocturnal animal but I need to... :moon: See you ^^ Ciao!

analogZero
05-16-2008, 05:34 PM
very primal, though I'd have to say that it's more than likely mutated beyond into not necessarily something new, but something that you wouldn't exactly recognize at first glance. I'd have to say that due to the overdevelopment of mankind the rules and regulations for this ritual have slightly bent and now there can be room for the spider crushing woman, and the child nurturing over the child protecting father. I'd agree that we're quite dominated, perhaps more on a subconscious level, by primal desires and instincts. However modern times have an unhealthy means of influencing or even manipulating the structures that hold us. Point being, if we were all to follow these guidelines of yours, we would hold a somewhat straight path, but eventually some would get knocked off course by the unnatural society we've created.
ps. society might not be the word I'm looking for, but I'm too lazy to change it. so tough titty.

Sun Tzu
05-16-2008, 08:44 PM
very primal, though I'd have to say that it's more than likely mutated beyond into not necessarily something new, but something that you wouldn't exactly recognize at first glance. I'd have to say that due to the overdevelopment of mankind the rules and regulations for this ritual have slightly bent and now there can be room for the spider crushing woman, and the child nurturing over the child protecting father. I'd agree that we're quite dominated, perhaps more on a subconscious level, by primal desires and instincts. However modern times have an unhealthy means of influencing or even manipulating the structures that hold us. Point being, if we were all to follow these guidelines of yours, we would hold a somewhat straight path, but eventually some would get knocked off course by the unnatural society we've created.
ps. society might not be the word I'm looking for, but I'm too lazy to change it. so tough titty.

Im not stating anything about family life, Im merely saying that the fundamental values are still the same. Can a women protect herself from the nasty spider? Absolutely. Can a man be nurturing instead of protective? You betcha. But this is not about men and women's abilities. This is about the male actually landing the female. The courting ritual, the dance, or as some call it, the hunt.

Philosophically I completely agree with you. Women have no need for a male in their life, they are completely able to take care of themselves without our aid.

And of course what we find attractive has changed drastically over the years. While 150 years ago we as men were attracted to the slightly overweight chaste girl. While as today all you have to do is look on T.V on see what is prevalent. Granted the feeling of attraction varies from person to person, but what Im stating is that the overall rough and tumble view is still the same. If you look deep down you will find slight variations such as, BDSM, Beastiality, Rape, whoredom, lezbo, and interracial. These random attractions do indeed exist, but Im still stating that the fundamental needs are still the same.

Sort of like a birds eye view. If you look down from that height you are able to take in the entire view and remember everything. Likewise if you lowered yourself down to street level the view is much smaller and there is an infinite amount of variables to take in. Too many to take account of all, and respond to them individually.

As a male we must hit all 3 of these rules if we are to succeed, and hitting them will greatly improve our chances of landing the girl of our choice. We must show them that we are capable of protecting them, providing, and improving them. If we lived in a matriacal society these rules would be reversed, and the male would be on the receiving end of this.

But we live in a patriacal society, and the female is the one caring for the home life, ensuring the continuation of the species. Are women equal in every way to a male? Absolutely, but women hold themselves back. Most likely its their upbringing that creates this vast difference. Up until the 60's womens place was in the kitchen, making babies, and it was only after WW2 that they were able to break out of that prison. Old habits die hard I suppose, and even subliminally we treat our women as the primary care givers and baby makers since the moment they were born. Men are elevated onto a somewhat undeserved platform, where the women are taught from birth to look up to for guidance and protection.

The man is the one that asks the women out, the man is the one that pays for lunch, and yes the man is the one that crushes the spider.

A prime example of this is America's military structure. Men are required, yes required, to submit to the draft, while the women are exempt for one reason or another. Women are not allowed onto the front lines of war, (no idea if this is true and Im not going to look this up. Someone wanna do this for me?) and the majority of people you find in Iraq nowadays are Male. Likewise if you look to the red cross and our public school system you will find that the majority of nurses are female, and the majority of teachers are female. Each primary care giving positions

Now I don't want this to turn into a civil rights debate, my main point was that we tend to gravitate towards the job society has thrust upon us. In this case women administering care, and men off fighting the unknown. Is it right? Absolutely not, is it the way things are? Absolutely. While granted these positions have been diluted immensely from the prehistoric days, and even upwards to 70-100 years ago. They are still prevalent and perhaps the most fool proof way for a male to land a female.

leerock89
05-16-2008, 11:20 PM
Me Cave Man!! You Cave Woman!!! Come Me And Eat Food And Give Me Baby!!

Sun Tzu
05-16-2008, 11:57 PM
Me Cave Man!! You Cave Woman!!! Come Me And Eat Food And Give Me Baby!!

basically.

Raven
05-17-2008, 03:29 AM
That is horribly cynical and utterly unromantic, but I can't disagree with your basic points.

Earlier you used the example of a wolf pack to illustrate how the alpha male gets all the womans. This does work on a primal level but what sets us apart from a wolf pack (other than laws against polygamy) is that humans have the ability to go against their gut instinct. My point being, the rules you gave will only find you a girl that is highly influenced by these instincts, primitive man get primitive girl. So you have to decide how to obey/bend these rules depending on the girl you are actually looking for.

This is also the reason we engineers can still get girls ^_^

Koopaking
05-17-2008, 04:55 AM
I can be a polygamist if I want!!

Something we humans don't realize is we are more feral than we think. A lot of normal human behavior is driven by our primal instincts. Remember back in school, there's a fight in the lunchroom, everyone yells "FIGHT!!!" and they all gather around. Our subconscious wants to see violence, we are violent by nature. I know there are a lot of of other things like this but that's the only one I can think of off the top of my head.

leerock89
05-17-2008, 05:30 AM
Me caveman!!! You other cave man!! I take woman and hurt you!!!

analogZero
05-17-2008, 06:05 AM
primal desires are very unquestionable in my mind, and I wholeheartedly agree that internal drive are a strong motivational force. I'm just saying that to any formula in society there will be deviations. take a dominatrix for example, typically a female role where men PAY to reverse these so called primal desires. There are women now that don't like to be controlled, that don't like the idea of being constrained to what principles have been laid out for them. It's these deviations that I'm talking about and some women seek them out, as do men. if I hit on one girl and she thought I was a chump, but her friend starts hitting on me (hypothetical unfortunately). In this circumstance I'm inferior and superior at the same time. I fail to meet the criteria, but succeed regardless. Turns out the girl I was hitting on was more interested in the nerd with his shirt tucked in at the end of the bar, or maybe she's a chubby chaser and is simply chasing a specific sexual urge. Maybe she's hung up on a blow up doll or she's just plain asexual or has experienced a traumatic sexual event in her life and now she's turned off by emotional/physical/mental/sexual contact? No way to know for sure, cuz they could be compensating for something, or acting out of character for whatever reason and just ignoring their instincts, but it leaves the impass that not every piece of tail is up for sale.
If you broke it down, I could go out and start picking up lesbians...which could have high potential for hotness.

Felix42
05-29-2008, 10:59 PM
Even though i do agree with the 3 points, i do believe theres a lot of other things in play as well and some of the points is expressed in odd ways. And i think that its hard the change the fact that you're an alpha og beta male.

I believe if you want to learn to pick up women, you should read "The Game" (haven't read it myself, but read a review once and thought the points were valid).

monsoon 10
05-29-2008, 11:07 PM
Me Cave Man!! You Cave Woman!!! Come Me And Eat Food And Give Me Baby!!

Very pseudo-Freud.

soulten
05-30-2008, 12:43 AM
Very interesting. this is good, ecspecialy the primal instinct of procreation, but maybe the woman wants to be dominent. but in the way of generalizing this is good

spirit
05-30-2008, 12:49 AM
Very pseudo-Freud.
Now what? Don't tell me you're a "fan" of Sigmund Freud's psychoanalysis! ^^
Unbelievable.

monsoon 10
05-30-2008, 12:53 AM
Now what? Don't tell me you're a "fan" of Sigmund Freud's psychoanalysis! ^^
Unbelievable.

Urrg..no but I mean give the man some credit he is the founder of modern psychology. Also even if I was I think I would be entitled to my train of thought.

spirit
05-30-2008, 12:58 AM
Urrg..no but I mean give the man some credit he is the founder of modern psychology. Also even if I was I think I would be entitled to my train of thought.
Don't get me wrong. I used to be fascinated by Freud when I was younger ^^

Koopaking
05-30-2008, 12:59 AM
Sigmund Freud was a mind sorcerer and you all know it.

monsoon 10
05-30-2008, 01:00 AM
Sigmund Freud was a mind sorcerer and you all know it.

People are entitled to freedom of religion you know.

Koopaking
05-30-2008, 01:38 AM
People are entitled to freedom of religion you know.

The religion of mind sorcerers?

spirit
05-30-2008, 02:54 AM
The religion of mind sorcerers?
I'm not sure if that's a religion, though... I'd rather say magic or occultism (?)

Sun Tzu
05-30-2008, 06:28 AM
Freud was obsessed with sex... Perhaps he never got laid himself?

analogZero
05-30-2008, 07:11 PM
Freud was obsessed with sex... Perhaps he never got laid himself?

if he did, he was probably taking notes the whole time.
"yes darling, keep going. you're an excellent specimen (scribble scribble)"

gunbound15
06-06-2008, 03:06 AM
Good then my understanding of "dominating" is correct.

animaniac and sun tzu use big words. gunbound15 no understand.
#3 is indeed fishy. i play sports to doooooom-in-ate and have fun, not make girl happy. does any of this apply to gol'-dig-gers?

analogZero
06-06-2008, 05:17 AM
animaniac and sun tzu use big words. gunbound15 no understand.
#3 is indeed fishy. i play sports to doooooom-in-ate and have fun, not make girl happy. does any of this apply to gol'-dig-gers?

in essence yes, gol'diggin' is not exempt. I was gonna say something about it, but women (and men) can see wealth as a form of security and power, thus making that little fat bald skirt-chaser a prime candidate for her womanly needs...shoes in most cases... and a gay looking dog.

suune
06-19-2008, 03:17 PM
The #3 reminds us of stone age...

Ayumu
06-23-2008, 11:00 PM
I agree in most part with 1 and 2 but not at all with 3. But only because in my personal expirence most men that display #3 traits are insecure therefor they always try to look tough. But that is only my opinon I'm not trying to say that it is true of all men.

strike7785
07-16-2008, 09:33 PM
No comment on the "Womenizing" topic but listening to ya'll makes me laugh. Thanks I sure needed a good laugh

puppetz
07-24-2008, 01:45 AM
also people want what they cant have.

gravion17
08-01-2008, 11:03 AM
I was pulling my kayak outa the lake today, and I got to thinking that people seem to make getting a girlfriend so complicated. So I thought about it for a few minutes and I came to a perhaps, strange, and rather depressing conclusion. This is just my opinion so please don't take it as truth, to each person their view on the matter will be entirely different. And a person that has not experianced true love is perhaps the least qualified person to form an opinion on this. Or perhaps its the other way around?

True love is nothing more than an illusion of affection and need. See, when I women searches for a mate (for thats the way it is guys, not the other way around) she looks for the most qualified candidate that possesses the strongest and most viable genes. Genes that will insure the best and brightest offspring capable of surviving in the world.

Now each womens priorities are different, but there are some universal ones.

#1 For one, a women searches for a man that is capable of protecting her and the future offspring. In that manner guys if you want to levy the stakes a little in your favor, act fearlessly, and be a little protective. So crush that nasty spider, if theres something unknown make sure to approach it first and warn her to stay back, and always stand up to the asshole at the bar. This is the biggest, and the most important of the three rules. If you forget the other 2, then at least remember this one.

#2 A man must show a women that he is capable of providing for her, and through that, the eventual child. That is why guys, we pay for the dinner, we pay for the movie, and we pick the women up. In the prehistoric days where most of our evolution took place, it was the man that brought back the meat, while the women stayed at home to take care of the child. Nowadays the meat is money, but the basic concept remains the same. We as a man during the courting process have to show that we are capable of bringing home the bacon.

#3 A show of dominance is a must. In human society as it is in wolf packs, women only breed with the Alpha Male. Perhaps to a lesser extent, but to some degree it is the same. As a male you have to set yourself apart from the pack and show that you are better than those around you. You are the leader. School yard bullying is a fine example of this. Tussle with your friends, but always apear dominate among them, wrestling matches, races, anything physical, mental or otherwise. As long as the women is watching you have to win. Now if you do lose, which you will sometimes, you have to downplay your loss, and make it seem like the other only won because of some cheap trick, or cheating.

Compliments, flirtations, and other things are simply icing on the cake. To show a women that you are interested, before she decides to choose you. Every women is different, but these are the 3 main points, and if you adhere to them you should be able to get any girl of your choice.

So ive shown you my take on the whole human mating scene, no idea if this is correct. These are simply theories, completely untested. So take them how you will.

I must say...I am really impress with your observations, as well as Spirit's points on this subject as well! Nicely done people...but here is the TRUTH guys! you already know the answer, you've known it since kindergarten: Nice guys finish last...DEAD LAST...ALWAYS!!! I can already hear the Ladies preparing their rebuttals as I type this...Ladies, who would you rather have? Michael J.Fox or Collin Farrell...Jackie Chan or Jet Li....Hugh Grant or Daniel Craig(The new Bond)...Chris Tucker or 2 Pac...that's what I thought! You don't want a NICE guy, not really...that's just the politically correct answer. what woman wants to hook up with a WEENIE? even the Ladies out there who have NO plans of WANTING to find the right guy and churn out some little BOOGER MACHINES doesn't want the NICE guy! Don't believe me? look around you...every guy has a buddy who is a COMPLETE DOUCHE to women but yet they are always around him....right? NOW, I am not saying that you should become of those guys that abuse their women, by no means...I don't even consider them Human never less a MAN...If you truly want to attract the attention of the opposite sex guys...the answer is simple...but I won't tell you 'cause well...I'm not a nice guy...

Nahmu
08-04-2008, 07:19 AM
why do nice guys necessarily have to be weenies? wouldn't it be more accurate to say that weenies come in last and that their varying degrees of niceness is another matter?

analogZero
08-04-2008, 10:28 AM
good point. weenies come in all shapes and sizes, and though most gals may appreciate a nice one, they often lean toward someone a little more crooked and rough looking. Something that might not look like it fits, and it doesn't, but the thrill is there regardless.


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arcose
08-04-2008, 08:15 PM
I must say...I am really impress with your observations, as well as Spirit's points on this subject as well! Nicely done people...but here is the TRUTH guys! you already know the answer, you've known it since kindergarten: Nice guys finish last...DEAD LAST...ALWAYS!!! I can already hear the Ladies preparing their rebuttals as I type this...Ladies, who would you rather have? Michael J.Fox or Collin Farrell...Jackie Chan or Jet Li....Hugh Grant or Daniel Craig(The new Bond)...Chris Tucker or 2 Pac...that's what I thought! You don't want a NICE guy, not really...that's just the politically correct answer. what woman wants to hook up with a WEENIE? even the Ladies out there who have NO plans of WANTING to find the right guy and churn out some little BOOGER MACHINES doesn't want the NICE guy! Don't believe me? look around you...every guy has a buddy who is a COMPLETE DOUCHE to women but yet they are always around him....right? NOW, I am not saying that you should become of those guys that abuse their women, by no means...I don't even consider them Human never less a MAN...If you truly want to attract the attention of the opposite sex guys...the answer is simple...but I won't tell you 'cause well...I'm not a nice guy...

im a relly a nice guy to wemon and i cant get a date to save my life and hes= is right niceguys finish last

Nahmu
08-05-2008, 06:30 AM
good point. weenies come in all shapes and sizes, and though most gals may appreciate a nice one, they often lean toward someone a little more crooked and rough looking. Something that might not look like it fits, and it doesn't, but the thrill is there regardless.


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ha, i see what you did there. i'm sure, there's intrigue in the not-so-perfect fit, but there's not one size fits all... it takes all types to build the world.

monsoon 10
08-05-2008, 02:13 PM
good point. weenies come in all shapes and sizes, and though most gals may appreciate a nice one, they often lean toward someone a little more crooked and rough looking. Something that might not look like it fits, and it doesn't, but the thrill is there regardless.


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So we weren't talking about hot dogs?

leerock89
08-05-2008, 02:19 PM
You have to make her hot! If you cant get her aroused then your fighting a losing battle. And they like it when you treat them like crap...not to much, but enough to rely to them that your not going to take some of the things they do seriously unless you get laid.

Sun Tzu
09-04-2008, 05:19 AM
truth be told when I wrote this i had only a vague understanding of who Freud actually was, having never studied psychology in my life. Now Im taking a multitude of psych and sociology classes and Im quite interested in how all of this is falling into place, so far it all lines up in one way or another.

Its kind of a snap shot of my mind before I started college, Im interested in reading it when I finish... so Im not letting this thing drift off into space.

Kenshy
09-04-2008, 01:14 PM
truth be told when I wrote this i had only a vague understanding of who Freud actually was, having never studied psychology in my life. Now Im taking a multitude of psych and sociology classes and Im quite interested in how all of this is falling into place, so far it all lines up in one way or another.

Its kind of a snap shot of my mind before I started college, Im interested in reading it when I finish... so Im not letting this thing drift off into space.

Ah, yes. Sigmund Freud, the man who believes that every son wants to subconsiously sleep with their mother. Ofcourse, most people repress that feeling, unfortunately some humans carry out this desire and they now live in a shack with their mother in Texas.

AIDA
09-04-2008, 01:28 PM
if you wanna do a sport. hey at least your getting exercize.

athrun0017
09-07-2008, 12:15 AM
Wow.. this thread is still up! lol

BlueSano
09-07-2008, 12:56 AM
well....it's kinda true if you wan a cave woman as ravyn stated XP.....and about the nice guy thing...well to all you guys out their you need to find balance....meaning you can't always be nice and you can't always be riugh you gotta find a middle ground...you gotta show that you cna be th brute when the situation calls for it ..and also have a gentle side ....in other words think before you act .cuz no girl will go with a total brute unless she was a cave woman ...and she also won't go for a total nice guy ...she will probably realize he was a good guy when it's too late as you all said before nice guys finish last .....that's why you all have to find middle ground ^^

athrun0017
09-07-2008, 01:12 AM
well....it's kinda true if you wan a cave woman as ravyn stated XP.....and about the nice guy thing...well to all you guys out their you need to find balance....meaning you can't always be nice and you can't always be riugh you gotta find a middle ground...you gotta show that you cna be th brute when the situation calls for it ..and also have a gentle side ....in other words think before you act .cuz no girl will go with a total brute unless she was a cave woman ...and she also won't go for a total nice guy ...she will probably realize he was a good guy when it's too late as you all said before nice guys finish last .....that's why you all have to find middle ground ^^

For us guys.. there is not really a middle ground to be honest.. We usually always have a someone else to fall back on.. if you know what that means.. yes if we play nice then all is done, your most likly not going anywhere fast, and we can't be an ass, or your never be comitted.. so there needs to be balance, most guys can always stay as they are, because our balance is not with being something we are not, but rather, its more of a risk of loosing one and gain another.. understand that and you will get what am trying to say.

carolyn07
10-17-2008, 12:49 PM
...nice one!,.

agree to the highest level!,.hehe!,.♥