death sentance

[gunslinger]

is the death sentance a good thing or a bad thing.

i say good saves money and im sure the family of the person he killed isnt really careing too much for him and bullet cost about 70 cents for him to stay in jail hmm around 50gs or even 100. i say kill the scum.

[quietchat]

First off, the firing squad hasn't been used for over 70 years, probably longer than that even. It doesn't cost a bullet.

The death sentence now adays is by injecting a prisoner with chemicals to stop the heart and breathing. And what the hell is the 50gs suppose to mean? (I'm not a good expert)

Second off, WHY is it a good thing? You don't even say if it's good to give it to every person that ends up in jail or if there is a certain condition that someone should be given the death sentence.

Third, you don't consider at all the family of the person that would be given the death penalty.

Get your opinion straightened out, otherwise nobody's going to give you a serious answer.

[gunslinger]

First off, the firing squad hasn't been used for over 70 years, probably longer than that even. It doesn't cost a bullet. are you sure? ive seen a video for it happening and it was around 2 years ago or 5 not sure they had a traget on the person sentanced to death so the fireteam wouldnt know the face.

The death sentence now adays is by injecting a prisoner with chemicals to stop the heart and breathing. And what the hell is the 50gs suppose to mean? (I'm not a good expert) 50 milligrams is based on numbing the body so no pain is felt and makeing the victim unable to move is another part or the does then the last part is too stop the heart. i dont know the percentages

Second off, WHY is it a good thing? You don't even say if it's good to give it to every person that ends up in jail or if there is a certain condition that someone should be given the death sentence.

why its a good thing hmm to kill them before they have a chance to kill another innocent person or child and to save tax dollars benifiting the people who do the right things who contribute to soceity.


minor crimes i would not think it would be right at all and i think you should be able to think what group of criminals im talking about getting the death sentence but ill just tell you rapeist marderers kidnappers arsenist and ppl who beat women ect.

Third, you don't consider at all the family of the person that would be given the death penalty.

if the person is a killer im sure they dont have good familiy connections or rapes children i highly belive there family doesnt want them.

[quietchat]

Quotes help...

But anyway, there is NO jail in the united states that executes by shooting someone (I checked up, there are only 2 that died by that method since the 70's, so it's not common for 40 years instead of my estimate 70)

Millgrams is "mg", not "gs". And milligrams of what?

They are in fucking jail, how the hell do you think they would find a chance to kill someone else? As for the money saved, it's minimal at best.


http://www.metrokc.gov/auditor/2003/JailCostsFollowup.pdf


You'll need a pdf program to view this, but on page 3 of the actual details to the report (Page 8 if you're taking them all together), it comes up to about 85 million dollars in cost in 2003 on the chart. Folowing the trend, we'll assume the cost today is about 100 million. How much is that? MINOR!!! That's taking into all jails in the U.S, compaired to the trillions of dollars that circulate through the country (Despite the national debt).

Your list of people who you think it's acceptable to kill: By charges, sexual assault, homocide, kidnapping, arson, domestic abuse.

Meaning, you'd kill a large number of people who didn't kill anyone at all. There are murderers that don't get the death sentence, and you want to kill someone who set a fire?? This alone is enough to say that you're out of your mind, considering you only have one thing on that list that directly involves killing another and the courts themselves don't instantly say "You kill someone, the state kills you".

And what about the family of the people who AREN'T killers. And then you go and mention child molestation but you left that out of the group you'd want to kill! So, sexually assualt an adult, death. A child, whatever else.


Again, you REALLY need to re-think this, ALL of this. I'm still not taking you seriously, and you aren't putting out a good argument.

[gunslinger]

Quotes help...

But anyway, there is NO jail in the united states that executes by shooting someone (I checked up, there are only 2 that died by that method since the 70's, so it's not common for 40 years instead of my estimate 70)

Millgrams is "mg", not "gs". And milligrams of what?

They are in fucking jail, how the hell do you think they would find a chance to kill someone else? As for the money saved, it's minimal at best.


http://www.metrokc.gov/auditor/2003/JailCostsFollowup.pdf


You'll need a pdf program to view this, but on page 3 of the actual details to the report (Page 8 if you're taking them all together), it comes up to about 85 million dollars in cost in 2003 on the chart. Folowing the trend, we'll assume the cost today is about 100 million. How much is that? MINOR!!! That's taking into all jails in the U.S, compaired to the trillions of dollars that circulate through the country (Despite the national debt).

Your list of people who you think it's acceptable to kill: By charges, sexual assault, homocide, kidnapping, arson, domestic abuse.

Meaning, you'd kill a large number of people who didn't kill anyone at all. There are murderers that don't get the death sentence, and you want to kill someone who set a fire?? This alone is enough to say that you're out of your mind, considering you only have one thing on that list that directly involves killing another and the courts themselves don't instantly say "You kill someone, the state kills you".

And what about the family of the people who AREN'T killers. And then you go and mention child molestation but you left that out of the group you'd want to kill! So, sexually assualt an adult, death. A child, whatever else.


Again, you REALLY need to re-think this, ALL of this. I'm still not taking you seriously, and you aren't putting out a good argument.

i laugh at the jail health part. jail is mostly made up gangs to represent there gang they use black ink and tatoos the needle used in those tatoos is not clean it has blood from other ppl that might of had aids ect which makes anyone get poked by that neddle infected and they dont even know it.

You kill someone, the state kills you". inless you were self defending your self.

ill take out the domestic abuse for arsonist it would depend if anyone got killed in the fire.

or we can do what the japenese do throw em on a iland and let em live there.

eye for an eye vengeance will be mine.

[quietchat]

You aren't taking this seriously at all, are you?

The money spent on the health of the inmates only counts for actual professional medical attention, not what inmates poke each other with. The state isn't paying for them to tatoo each other with makeshift needles and ink.

And again: Second degree, Third degree homocide: You accidently kill someone on a shooting range. You're in a baseball stadium and killed by a home run ball. You finally say that it doesn't count if it was in self defense, and you don't take about accidental deaths.

Arson is done for the sake of causing property damage most of the time, not for killing someone.

And I don't think the japanese actually do that. Even if they did, they are an island nation anyway. That doesn't work for all of the nations and countries that don't live on an island or around them.

[Stray_Pube]

Im for the Death Sentence. I say kill the bitch! When the individual is proven guilty without a shadow of a doubt, take his ass out back, and shoot him in the head. Then wash your hands and go on about your business. Fuck this system where we send the condemned to prison for years and years when we can save the state millions of dollars and shoot them on the spot. Fuck this justice system.

[gunslinger]

Im for the Death Sentence. I say kill the bitch! When the individual is proven guilty without a shadow of a doubt, take his ass out back, and shoot him in the head. Then wash your hands and go on about your business. Fuck this system where we send the condemned to prison for years and years when we can save the state millions of dollars and shoot them on the spot. Fuck this justice system.

thanks for agreeing :dance:::D:

[Stray_Pube]

First off, the firing squad hasn't been used for over 70 years, probably longer than that even. It doesn't cost a bullet.

Fuck the firing squad. One bullet to the head will suffice.

[gunslinger]

hell we could just burn em or hang em which is the cheapest.

[Zaraki]

hell we could just burn em or hang em which is the cheapest.

hanging probably.

[Stray_Pube]

hell we could just burn em or hang em which is the cheapest.

Give the convicted two choices: bullet to the head, or hanging. Then execute him on the spot.

[shadowmaks]

Wow, just wow. I really don't think any of you are taking this seriously.

Too start, what about the time spent in jail. I mean, if it's lifetime, execution would be okay in a way. But what about sentences that only last a few years. I remember reading or watching a case where a first time rapist was sentenced to about 15-20 years. (have to recheck).

From reading this, it really seems like you guys just like to see people get killed.

On another note, wasn't there a thread just like this 8-10 months back?

[Stray_Pube]

Im only talking about the guys who: 1) have a life sentence. If they have that, then just kill them immediately, theyre going to die anyways. 2) Who receive the Death Penalty. 3) If that person is a child rapist, kill the bitch on the spot with no trial. I dont care if its the first time or the tenth.

[carolyn07]

...i also go for death snetence,.but firing squad?,.eeeh!,.we haven't used that in our country!,.

anyways,.i'd say it would be electric chair or lethal injection!,.

i dont like the hanging idea!,.

anyway,.its scary to have death sentence but i believe it will decrease crime rate in any country!,.

though,.we should have the best judge first!,.coz what i fear are those innocent who were sentnced guilty!,.

haiz!,.♥

[Zaraki]

Wow, just wow. I really don't think any of you are taking this seriously.

Too start, what about the time spent in jail. I mean, if it's lifetime, execution would be okay in a way. But what about sentences that only last a few years. I remember reading or watching a case where a first time rapist was sentenced to about 15-20 years. (have to recheck).

From reading this, it really seems like you guys just like to see people get killed.

On another note, wasn't there a thread just like this 8-10 months back?

of course not the guy who started this wasn't taking it seriously. stray has a point though. why spend tax money on those who have a life sentence who are eventually going to die. true you are going to spend money anyways just to kill the person. hanging, electric chair, firing squad and the old was of executing is cruel and unusual in the US at least. i'd rather be facing the death penalty then life in prison where i would possibly get raped, and waste the rest of my pitiful life in prison.

[Stray_Pube]

...i also go for death snetence,.but firing squad?,.eeeh!,.we haven't used that in our country!,.

Im not talking about the firing squad! ONE guy, ONE gun, ONE bullet, ONE condemned criminal. Thats all. No fancy squad pointing their weapons at the guy, just one officer and bullet to the head.

Abd fuck that "cruel and unusual punishment". What if the person raped and murdered a 3 y/o girl? I bet you would want that person to supper the most extreme punishment any body can think of! What if it was an elderly couple? The same thing.

A convicted child rapist was sentenced to ONE YEAR in prison for sexually assulting a 4 or 5 y/o girl and her 6 y/o brother. ONE FUCKING YEAR! Now they may reopen the case to find if he had raped other children. ONE YEAR he was sentenced. He shouldve been killed!

Its the best solution and the cheapest. One person, one gun, one bullet. At almost no cost to you and the satisfaction of getting the filth off our streets.

[Zaraki]

Im not talking about the firing squad! ONE guy, ONE gun, ONE bullet, ONE condemned criminal. Thats all. No fancy squad pointing their weapons at the guy, just one officer and bullet to the head.

Abd fuck that "cruel and unusual punishment". What if the person raped and murdered a 3 y/o girl? I bet you would want that person to supper the most extreme punishment any body can think of! What if it was an elderly couple? The same thing.

A convicted child rapist was sentenced to ONE YEAR in prison for sexually assulting a 4 or 5 y/o girl and her 6 y/o brother. ONE FUCKING YEAR! Now they may reopen the case to find if he had raped other children. ONE YEAR he was sentenced. He shouldve been killed!

Its the best solution and the cheapest. One person, one gun, one bullet. At almost no cost to you and the satisfaction of getting the filth off our streets.

not saying i agree w/ the cruel and unusual punishment, hell i agree with you the idiot should be dead.

[mblizzow]

well i believe in extenuating circumstances that the offender should be put to death depending on state or federal procedure.
for example Gary Ridgeway, the Green River Serial Killer was from the area that i am from and he would drive down a stretch of highway and pick up women that were prostitutes, rape them, kill them, bury them in shallow graves and then later dig them up to violate their bodies, and he confessed to doing this to 48 different women after being confronted by officers in the deaths to 4 of them, Ridgeway says he killed more like 90 women.
now this guy is behind bars and will never get out he worked with the police to find the graves of about half of his victims and had earned himself life in prison several times over. however i still dont feel safe. i would have perfered to have him shot or hung or have gotten a lethal cocktail injection. i dont believe that if he tells us where he dug holes in the ground and buried innocent women he deserves to live.

[amerikajin]

I cannot agree with the death penalty on an ethical standpoint. Humans are, ethically, not to commit murder. This is a part of our laws, and this is a part of the ethical code I live by as a Christian. No human has the right to end another's life - that's playing God. Yes, I am disgusted by some of the crimes people commit and I feel horrible for the victims and their friends/family, but I firmly believe that repentance is always a possibility. While many criminals are not reformed (due to lack of funding for proper programs just as often as it is due to the criminals themselves refusing to change), there are criminals that are and the death penalty cuts short these people's chances.

In Minnesota, they have some of the lowest incarceration rates in the nation and the most commonly cited reason during one man's interview of state personnel was: "we put in jail those people we are frightened of, not those that we are mad at." (http://www.greenchange.org/article.php?id=1407). Minnesota also banned the death penalty at the beginning of the last century. Anyway, you also have to consider what happens when someone is falsely convicted (there are people who are released years later after having finally been proven innocent of crimes). What if they had been killed before then?

Plus, in my opinion, if it is against the law for one person to kill another, then it should also be against the law for the government to kill a person.

And, for all you people out there who just want people to suffer for their crimes...what's worse? A quick death, or a life suffering behind bars. The death penalty almost seems like you're showing the criminals mercy.

[rukia-chan]

i don't understand maybe i'm too religious but the don't have the right to kill anyone i mean if they are killing criminal's what's that make them? i don't see why we don't put them in jail for the rest of their life's

[Silverleon]

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What i don't understand is why someone would necro this thread after its been dead for so long! ::D:

[Csylene]

I think it depends on how grave the crime is. If a criminal has killed, let's say, twenty persons, kill him. If the crimes committed are lighter than that, i guess being in jail is enough.

[DjKuato]

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What i don't understand is why someone would necro this thread after its been dead for so long! ::D:

lmao thats what i was wonderin