Suicide Kit

[am0184]

http://news.aol.com/health/article/dr-death-suicide-workshop/455868
:oo:...ummm...I sorta understand the guy's mindset and all,...but this is a little freaky.

A penny for your thoughts?

[Memorix]

Wow... That's just creepy...

[fazenda]

I honestly think it is fine, if they are doing it because they are in pain and have accomplished all that they wanted to do in life. but if it is used as a way to escape debt then he should alert the family so they can give some help.

[ricecake]

thats just crazy...

[BoneTosser]

If your dog or cat was suffering from cancer or a similar illness and you kept it alive you would be called cruel and inhumane. Why is it any different for humans?

[leshinor]

What the....! I completely disagree with the idea. Suicide means abandoning your hope of living... I just can't accept this.

[black fire]

personaly from my view if someone wants to kill themselfs i say go for it jsut means less stupid ppl out there... and yes im speeking from myself becuase i even thought about killing myself before becuase of masive depression i go through sometimes but i would want to live beuase i want to make something of myself and be usefull to myself and to the world unlike my dad and im tryin to prove to him and everyone that thinks im worthless and a bumb....

[BoneTosser]

What the....! I completely disagree with the idea. Suicide means abandoning your hope of living... I just can't accept this.
You're saying even if the pain was unending, you had to be hooked up to a machine or die, you had no dignity left because you could no longer even wipe your own a$$, you would rather live that way? And you would push that kind of suffering on others based on your own beliefs? Sounds Sado-masochistic.

[leshinor]

You're saying even if the pain was unending, you had to be hooked up to a machine or die, you had no dignity left because you could no longer even wipe your own a$$, you would rather live that way? And you would push that kind of suffering on others based on your own beliefs? Sounds Sado-masochistic.

Well of course. I am a sadist afterall. I love seeing people in agony and misery! Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!! Am I evil or what?

Well if the situation has surpassed a certain limit, then yes I agree with euthanasia. However, ending your life for other reasons, such as depression, is totally wrong for me. In my previous post I didn't clarify this. I only agree with euthanasia in extreme situation and only with the person's will, if it is possible of course.

[am0184]

Maybe I shoulda put this in "Debate"?

[leshinor]

Maybe I shoulda put this in "Debate"?

Maybe, but the Off Topic Lounge was not a bad choice either! ::D:

[BoneTosser]

Well if the situation has surpassed a certain limit, then yes I agree with euthanasia. However, ending your life for other reasons, such as depression, is totally wrong for me. In my previous post I didn't clarify this. I only agree with euthanasia in extreme situation and only with the person's will, if it is possible of course.

Thank you for clarifying. With this we are in agreement.

[CryticX]

I don't care, if people are a f*'d up as to kill themselves I don't care, fu*k your life up....your choice

[starscream]

To compare our elderly to pets who have to be put down is wrong

[BoneTosser]

Show mercy to a pet in pain but not to your elders? That sounds about as logical buying a new TV instead of feeding your children.

[Silverleon]

I don't know, sometimes the person agrees with it, but what i don't like is the killing coma patients, as you know, a dream that seems like hours usually happens in a couple of minuteds in real life, so a coma patient can live a dream life for a really long time, and while killing them might seem right, you might be taking away their dream life...
If i was ever to be in a coma i'd hate it if some one was to choose to kill me, i don't like the fact of someone deciding to end the life of someone while they're not concious.... its just wrong.as they de without knowing what happen or even realizing it, which i just don't think is any good at all.

[Memorix]

Well, i guess i'll move this to Debate forum. I think it might be better off there. :D

[am0184]

I don't know, sometimes the person agrees with it, but what i don't like is the killing coma patients, as you know, a dream that seems like hours usually happens in a couple of minuteds in real life, so a coma patient can live a dream life for a really long time, and while killing them might seem right, you might be taking away their dream life...
If i was ever to be in a coma i'd hate it if some one was to choose to kill me, i don't like the fact of someone deciding to end the life of someone while they're not concious.... its just wrong.as they de without knowing what happen or even realizing it, which i just don't think is any good at all.

Then there IS always the small chance they come out of it.

btw thanks Memorix :D

[Silverleon]

Then there IS always the small chance they come out of it.

btw thanks Memorix :D

Exactly!
(wonder how i forgot to mention that...)

[blood zero]

This is a weird debate and im worried that i might say the wrong thing so leave it to these guys to answer!

[monster111]

i say they should just jail him up for good

[suune]

People are really strange sometimes...

[BoneTosser]

People are really strange sometimes...

I have to agree........ And I hope none that have spoken against euthanasia are ever in a situation like those that I feel deserve the option. Life is worth living but some times the pain of a slow death or a chronic disease is to much.

[Demon Soul]

Here's a much cheaper alternative to the "suicide kit":

1 rope tied in a noose.

That's all you need! Now find a hook on a ceiling somewhere and do your thing.

[leshinor]

Here's a much cheaper alternative to the "suicide kit":

1 rope tied in a noose.

That's all you need! Now find a hook on a ceiling somewhere and do your thing.

Hahah! Well the reason I didn't agree with the idea is that euthanasia can be done simply. No need for a freaking suicide kit. His effort makes me think that all he wants is some popularity for doing crazy inventions... Also, this suicide kit might be dangerous for attracting others to suicide when they should not.

[CryticX]

I think suicide is the cowards way out. I win, you lose....that's the debate lol, don't argue because if life is the crappiest thing ever, you're just bailing and cowardly to quit.

[User Name]

If the old person is suffering, I say let them die.

Also, this suicide kit might be dangerous for attracting others to suicide when they should not.

If some depressed idiot wants to kill himself then that's fine too. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[mikesword]

I think people should only kill themselves if they lost everything they had and had nothing to live for. But you shouldn't kill yourself if there are things to live for.

For example I take meds for depression and I've tied the noose a few times but when I'm about to slip it over I begin think about all the people who would miss me. Like my teachers, my Mom, my cats Angel and Kiri. And the Volkswagon that I swore I'd get running for my dad who didn't live long enough to get it running would just rot away in the garage.

No one should have the right to cause someone that much grief and sadness unless all that you cared for passed away.

[fazenda]

I think people should only kill themselves if they lost everything they had and had nothing to live for. But you shouldn't kill yourself if there are things to live for.

For example I take meds for depression and I've tied the noose a few times but when I'm about to slip it over I begin think about all the people who would miss me. Like my teachers, my Mom, my cats Angel and Kiri. And the Volkswagon that I swore I'd get running for my dad who didn't live long enough to get it running would just rot away in the garage.

No one should have the right to cause someone that much grief and sadness unless all that you cared for passed away.

well i think you are right and good for living, but this is about people who wish to die because of their age or painful/indignity of their situation, and the family may already be saddened and in grief from the situation.

and with what you said about your situation, I feel I should say that I hope that you live a long life and never give in when you feel depressed.

[BoneTosser]

well i think you are right and good for living, but this is about people who wish to die because of their age or painful/indignity of their situation, and the family may already be saddened and in grief from the situation.

and with what you said about your situation, I feel I should say that I hope that you live a long life and never give in when you feel depressed.

Exactly the point I've been arguing. Thank you for putting in better terms Than I could. If your life is more painful for you and your family than your continued life, you should have the option of a quick painless death.

As for coma patients, after six weeks the chances of ever coming out of it decrease significantly. And only drop further every day. In contrast to the chance of recovery, your chance of brain damage increases by the same amount. Knowing that, I feel it is up to the family to decide when and if to terminate care and life support (if there is any) NOT anyone else.

And Mikesword, stay strong. Your reasons for not being a coward are the same that kept me alive a few years ago. They changed after a couple friends of mine took the easy way out. I saw what it did to their family and friends, And know I know what my family and friends would go through. I would not wish that kind of misery on anyone.

[J-7ven]

uh thats cool jail it is

[Abarai]

jail his lilly ass!

what a creep!jeesh!

he finds depressed people who have reached a sad point in their life's and he tries to take advantage and make money!

[leshinor]

jail his lilly ass!

what a creep!jeesh!

he finds depressed people who have reached a sad point in their life's and he tries to take advantage and make money!

Yep! That's why I said that I don't agree at first. I do not believe that his so called 'efforts' are for the sake of the ones that are suffering but for himself. Euthanasia is not hard and doesn't need the existence of a suicide kit!!! I think he just wants to do smth crazy so that he becomes famous and earns a lot of money...

[kokoro-ran]

i think i need one after the fail of my first and second atemp to suicide any way we dont have to wait for death we can just go and hug her no big deal and for the people that say that you well regret once your dead it's just bla bla bla people are born to die in the end and life is not sweet at all i've been suffering for 10 years now so just make my misery end

I think people should only kill themselves if they lost everything they had and had nothing to live for. But you shouldn't kill yourself if there are things to live for.

For example I take meds for depression and I've tied the noose a few times but when I'm about to slip it over I begin think about all the people who would miss me. Like my teachers, my Mom, my cats Angel and Kiri. And the Volkswagon that I swore I'd get running for my dad who didn't live long enough to get it running would just rot away in the garage.

No one should have the right to cause someone that much grief and sadness unless all that you cared for passed away.

well that good for you but there is people how suffer more i took many kind of meds but i stell think if i'm gone it well be better beside i'm sure no one well miss me and all the people that i well miss have already pased away a long time

[death25]

don't get it at all..wushoo

[leshinor]

i think i need one after the fail of my first and second atemp to suicide any way we dont have to wait for death we can just go and hug her no big deal and for the people that say that you well regret once your dead it's just bla bla bla people are born to die in the end and life is not sweet at all i've been suffering for 10 years now so just make my misery end

well that good for you but there is people how suffer more i took many kind of meds but i stell think if i'm gone it well be better beside i'm sure no one well miss me and all the people that i well miss have already pased away a long time

Ouch! That is rough. I do not know anything about you but I am sure people will miss you if you are gone even if they don't seem like it... Besides, you're still 17 right? Life can have sudden turns so don't abandon it so early on. I don't want to sound cheesy and romantic or something but if you keep fighting something good will come out, even if that might take a while...

[am0184]

Well I'm glad you guys are taking such an intrest, cause this is a pretty important topic that needs to be adressed.

[Dead-Pool]

to me death is funny and so is everything i joke about

[leshinor]

to me death is funny and so is everything i joke about

Well there are times for jokes but there are also times for serious discussions. You need to catch the mood and see if it is right for a joke or else you will ruin the whole conversation. You just did that...
Please don't be so random all the time... it's good and funny SOMETIMES, not always...

[fishfood7]

theres nothing wrong with it!! this man only assists suicides if the pateints situation is clearly worse than death AND they WANT to die. And when i say that i dont mean whiny emo kids. I mean people with severe mental and/or physical handicaps that none of us could ever imagine. He is doing these people a favor.

[kokoro-ran]

Ouch! That is rough. I do not know anything about you but I am sure people will miss you if you are gone even if they don't seem like it... Besides, you're still 17 right? Life can have sudden turns so don't abandon it so early on. I don't want to sound cheesy and romantic or something but if you keep fighting something good will come out, even if that might take a while...


well it's the same thinge that my doctor said to me but you know it's just hard to fack a smill in your face tp please athorse while you fell like your heart will break down at any second
however it's true i dont have any motivation to stay alive but i stell so my be there is something i should not mess somlething that wourth to stay for
thanks *hugs*

[leshinor]

well it's the same thinge that my doctor said to me but you know it's just hard to fack a smill in your face tp please athorse while you fell like your heart will break down at any second
however it's true i dont have any motivation to stay alive but i stell so my be there is something i should not mess somlething that wourth to stay for
thanks *hugs*

*hugs back*
You are welcome! Seems the world is full of problems huh!?! Well, hope your life will turn to the better! If I can help in any way please let me know!
:cute::cute::cute:

[vivek8000]

thats just crazy...change u mind about this

[lee matsu]

its up to them folks to decide i think it should be fine ;p

[Dead-Pool]

ive comitted suicide more than once still not dead damn those healing facters of mine

[Unknown]

ive comitted suicide more than once still not dead damn those healing facters of mine

Clearly, you're doing it wrong.

[kokoro-ran]

*hugs back*
You are welcome! Seems the world is full of problems huh!?! Well, hope your life will turn to the better! If I can help in any way please let me know!
:cute::cute::cute:

thank you so much i guess you are much better from the people around me *hugs* just your words get my spirit up
you realy helped a lot

[leshinor]

thank you so much i guess you are much better from the people around me *hugs* just your words get my spirit up
you realy helped a lot

Oh thank you! I'm glad I helped! Really!!! *smiles cheerfully*
If you have any kind of problem and you wanna discuss about it then feel free to talk to me! I'll do my best to help you!


Clearly, you're doing it wrong.

And you'd think he would have figured out how to do it by now...
Well doing the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of paranoia so it's not that strange...!
lol! jk jk!

[kokoro-ran]

every body hi and good bey this time it's the end for me so i just want to say it i'm at my limet there is no kokoro-ran any more and there is no rania either
see you in the athor worl if there is one

[leshinor]

every body hi and good bey this time it's the end for me so i just want to say it i'm at my limet there is no kokoro-ran any more and there is no rania either
see you in the athor worl if there is one

Huh!?! You don't mean that now do you? I certainly hope you don't and that you change your mind. Come on don't do that. This world can be fun too so don't do it. Don't give up pleeeeeaaaaaase!

[kokoro-ran]

Huh!?! You don't mean that now do you? I certainly hope you don't and that you change your mind. Come on don't do that. This world can be fun too so don't do it. Don't give up pleeeeeaaaaaase!
i couldn't after all i was planning to jump from a building but i thoug it's so dramatic for me
well you know mybe i'm in love with you you are the onely one how charre le up in bad times thanks i realy love you hugs*

[Yakumo]

He's a creep. Who the hell would teach others to commit suicide? He needs to be in jail or an insane asylum at the least.