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spirit
03-16-2009, 10:13 PM
Can anyone tell, what is the real purpose/meaning of life and living?

I know... I know... it is such a simple yet philosophical question and I wonder if any of you can come up with some good explanation or theory.

I wasn't actually looking to know the purpose of each and every individual life but something much larger.. beyond that meaning. Life - existence in general. Why did 'someone' (some people call "it" God) or perhaps 'no one' created 'something' called life? I don't want you to limit your thinking and answers to human life only, but life in general: if it's an animal, an insect, a flower, or maybe a tree, water... a chemical element or an atom.
Why there is such 'thing' as life. What was the purpose of creating life and giving us the opportunity to live?

Alrenta
03-16-2009, 10:16 PM
thought this would be about monty python lol
i have no idea on this question
possible to live life to its fulliest and have no regrets or something like that

Galbatorix
03-16-2009, 10:26 PM
thought this would be about monty python lol
i have no idea on this question
possible to live life to its fulliest and have no regrets or something like that

thats wierd

Lince
03-16-2009, 10:32 PM
42.

No really, I think the meaning of life is simply to make something to live for yourself. Everyone needs something to believe in, even if it's an active disbelief in a higher power. It gives them a purpose.
Of course there is a limit. No one should spend their whole life chasing something like a higher power, because it simply can't be proven (at least from what we have to work with). So while you need a belief, don't become a [insert religion here] extremist, sheesh. And that belief doesn't have to be a religion either. You can just live for your line of work, be it art, math, teaching, etc. (I'll let you smart people continue the rant in your own head if you want, it's not a very complicated though. and I hate long posts. :(

God or whatever can decide if your life was sufficient and whatnot maybe. I have further thoughts about the afterlife, but who cares. xD

Alrenta
03-16-2009, 10:36 PM
thats wierd

whats wierd me thinking of monty pythan or my answer? :o.o:

-.Shiki.-
03-16-2009, 10:40 PM
Meaning of life..
Only by living you'll find out

wi_sam
03-16-2009, 10:43 PM
thought this would be about monty python lol
i have no idea on this question
possible to live life to its fulliest and have no regrets or something like that

It is wierd indead....

I believe that GOD created us and gave us life to live, to fulfill our desires, our destiny. Thus we must show GOD our devotion and gratitude no matter how ****ed up our life is.

But to find the meaning of life you have to LIVE it - not to let life live YOU -

I think ...

Alrenta
03-16-2009, 10:47 PM
reading back on it that was a stupid answer please forgive my stupidity :op

o.k thinking in more detail on this question there is no meaning to life, we are here for no purpose we just evolved from more simple life forms to begin with well thats my opinion hopefully not as stupid as my first post :op

leerock89
03-16-2009, 11:14 PM
To understand this question, one must observe one self first. This, like a great many things, is really just a matter of perception. Everyone's going to have a different answer. On a personal basis, my meaning of life it to live it to the fullest otherwise I would not be living. On a more broader view, humanity should strive to become better then we are now, to reach above the pettiness of greed hate envy and self loathing, to reach for the stars and beyond.

Other then that, stop thinking to much on it, all it will do is give you a headache.

spirit
03-16-2009, 11:29 PM
I wasn't actually looking to know the purpose of each and every individual life but something much larger.. beyond that meaning. Life - existence in general. Why did 'someone' (some people call "it" God) or perhaps 'no one' created 'something' called life? I don't want you to limit your thinking and answers to human life only, but life in general: if it's an animal, an insect, a flower, or maybe a tree, water... a chemical element or an atom.
Why there is such 'thing' as life. What was the purpose of creating life and giving us the opportunity to live?

Lince
03-16-2009, 11:35 PM
Well if you think of it that way, I'll say it was a coincidence. Something combined with something else and over some time it created all this. If you go even further back..
I've thought maybe the whole universe is just like a molecule of a larger being.. maybe "God"? And in that larger world they have all the answers. xD
Just one of my several silly thoughts.
But I just like to not think about it. life is just a dream you know? That's never ending and ascending. :P

Alrenta
03-16-2009, 11:36 PM
i stick by my second post :)

SinXxX
03-16-2009, 11:39 PM
The meaning of life?

To oppose randomness. Okay, I'm not that "clean" myself, but once in a while, people who wants to "live" always search for "orders" in their life. Jobs, Hobbies, Games, Religion and other things etc. Everything in reality always fall apart, but we try to maintain the the "orderliness" by surviving, setting goals to ourselves, setting ourselves busy with our common goals, etc.

leshinor
03-16-2009, 11:49 PM
I think you would find these threads very interesting:
http://www.animefuel.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12036
http://www.animefuel.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11520

spirit
03-17-2009, 12:41 AM
I think you would find these threads very interesting:
http://www.animefuel.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12036
http://www.animefuel.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11520
Derivative topics but not the same. Idk. It's up to the other staffers if they think it would be best to merge them or not.

leshinor
03-17-2009, 12:45 AM
Derivative topics but not the same. Idk. It's up to the other staffers if they think it would be best to merge them or not.

They have different topics so I don't think they should merge them. I am just saying that there you can find some nice arguments concerning your question.

wi_sam
03-17-2009, 12:47 AM
I wasn't actually looking to know the purpose of each and every individual life but something much larger.. beyond that meaning. Life - existence in general. Why did 'someone' (some people call "it" God) or perhaps 'no one' created 'something' called life? I don't want you to limit your thinking and answers to human life only, but life in general: if it's an animal, an insect, a flower, or maybe a tree, water... a chemical element or an atom.
Why there is such 'thing' as life. What was the purpose of creating life and giving us the opportunity to live?

Well, lady "it" created these other life forms for two reasons and that is what I think :

1-To help the human race, and be of a benfit to us. Such as plants and some animals even insects, so they are just "objects" to us. We KILL them, we DESTROY them to evolve and to thrive .....

2-To show us the capablity of "it" and to give us more reasons to believe.
For the universe(Planets, Liquids, Minrals and Gas) is a comlicated thing to understand, so we ask but find no answers and we will never do, despite all this evolution around us it will always be the same.

Again, this is what I think.

spirit
03-17-2009, 01:03 AM
They have different topics so I don't think they should merge them. I am just saying that there you can find some nice arguments concerning your question.

I'm not so interested in the answer but the process of finding it. I doubt anyone can come with one true reason/meaning/purpose since there might be none.. or could be more than one. However, I am curious in people's opinion, their way of thinking. And if some of them never pondered upon such subject - then I wish to incline some reflection.

saprintha
03-17-2009, 01:04 AM
thought this would be about monty python lol
i have no idea on this question
possible to live life to its fulliest and have no regrets or something like that

hey that's my myspace profile name!:cute:

anyways, I too have no idea how to answer that question. i ask that question many times and there is never a clear answer. all i know is that live every day like it's your last, and make the most of everything, and do everything that you can.:wave:

leshinor
03-17-2009, 01:32 AM
Alright, so from what I understand you are asking whether Life in general has any meaning or purpose. Well it certainly is a very hard question and I believe that humans as we are now we cannot find the answer, and even if the answer was given to us we still would not be able to comprehend it. But, that should not prevent us from seeking the truth.

To answer this we need to first determine if there is a God or not.

So for religious people: if there is a God then He would be the one that gave us our life. Therefore, there is a higher purpose in humanity and in Life in general, which means that plants and animals don't exist solely for our survivor; this might suggest that animals have souls too but that is getting off topic. We cannot expect to understand that purpose for it is something that surpasses our mental capabilities. We should strive to live to the fullest and be nice people.

For people who don't believe in God then the situation is getting a bit more perplexed.
For those who believe there are no paranormal phenomena and life is as it seems, some molecules interacting with each other, then there is no real purpose. Humans as all other animals are trying to survive and act on their instincts and emotions (that are simple procedures in our bodies).
For those who believe in certain paranormal phenomena it varies. There are those that claim that there is a higher purpose of evolving and progressing our species, those that say there is no higher purpose but we just need to live our loves happily and so on...

What I wanted to point out before leaving is this:
I think atheists should debate with atheists and religious people with religious people. If an atheist wants to debate with a religious guy then he/she should assume there is a God and talk with this in mind for the sake of the argument. I say this because we need to have a common case in order to have a proper debate. Otherwise, people will start debating whether there is a God or not and the whole point will be lost.

analogZero
03-19-2009, 01:13 AM
Life was created so that I may one day be born into the world, grow old, and bask in the glory of this thread, reply to it, and realize that my post much like my existence doesn't size up. my life is to all life what this post is to this thread. so sad.

Koopaking
03-19-2009, 01:37 AM
As evidenced by this thread and many many other instances... people seek meaning of life. Perhaps the meaning of life is to seek the meaning of life? Perhaps we exist in order to question our existence? Perhaps we live in order to pursue our purpose for living?

For an existence that is not inquisitive is not much of an existence at all. If beings were content to sit about and wallow in their ignorance rather than pursue greater meaning, we would still be trapped in the Stone Age.

When you think about it, it makes sense, doesn't it? Life is about pursuing the meaning of life, and the journey that this pursuit takes you on. It is not about finding the solution.

As for the purpose of existence in general, with the plants, trees, etc., Perhaps life is just an anomaly. We have not evidence of life anywhere else in the universe thus far. Although the universe is so vast the fact that the Earth is a mere enigmatic singularity seems baffling to think, the possibility still rests there. As Dr. Manhattan put it, "Life is a highly overrated phenomenon." What if life was never meant to exist, yet somehow Earth managed to pull it off?

But if life is not an anomaly, if there truly was some sort of purpose for existence of living creatures, the true meaning could never be ascertained unless of course you can somehow trace them back to their origins. If a deity did in fact create life then of course they probably did it because they were bored, all alone in the universe, and it would make them feel nice to create all of existence. If everything was created from a single atom in the Big Bang, then this would mean that life, and the existence of the universe itself, was merely spontaneous, a reaction of elements that happened to come together from this and create autonomous beings.

I could ramble on for a while about this... I'm quite interesting in the philosophy of life, but I think I'll leave it at that. We exist in order to pursue meaning as we are doing in here, and came into existence from a sheer whim of circumstances.

Gin X
03-19-2009, 01:57 AM
The meaning of life is entirely up to u it's ur top priority it's the thing u feel u must do but i might be wrong. If u find the reason why u exist in the worl and that will be ur meaning of life

carolyn07
03-19-2009, 09:47 AM
...uhmmmm!,.

i think this thread should be moved to what's that forum the very lowest forum?,.hehehe!,.jokes!,.

well i guess,.were given an oppurtunity to live so that we could experience the world and all its inhabitants,.

i guess,.if im going to speak scientifically,.our purpose is just to multiply.you know what i mean,.to reproduce.

but if biblically,.coz i believe in this God,.everyone has their own purpose,.like to serve your country, others, follow God's rules and etc!,.

thats it!,.♥

leshinor
03-19-2009, 04:32 PM
As evidenced by this thread and many many other instances... people seek meaning of life. Perhaps the meaning of life is to seek the meaning of life? Perhaps we exist in order to question our existence? Perhaps we live in order to pursue our purpose for living?

For an existence that is not inquisitive is not much of an existence at all. If beings were content to sit about and wallow in their ignorance rather than pursue greater meaning, we would still be trapped in the Stone Age.

When you think about it, it makes sense, doesn't it? Life is about pursuing the meaning of life, and the journey that this pursuit takes you on. It is not about finding the solution.

As for the purpose of existence in general, with the plants, trees, etc., Perhaps life is just an anomaly. We have not evidence of life anywhere else in the universe thus far. Although the universe is so vast the fact that the Earth is a mere enigmatic singularity seems baffling to think, the possibility still rests there. As Dr. Manhattan put it, "Life is a highly overrated phenomenon." What if life was never meant to exist, yet somehow Earth managed to pull it off?

But if life is not an anomaly, if there truly was some sort of purpose for existence of living creatures, the true meaning could never be ascertained unless of course you can somehow trace them back to their origins. If a deity did in fact create life then of course they probably did it because they were bored, all alone in the universe, and it would make them feel nice to create all of existence. If everything was created from a single atom in the Big Bang, then this would mean that life, and the existence of the universe itself, was merely spontaneous, a reaction of elements that happened to come together from this and create autonomous beings.

I could ramble on for a while about this... I'm quite interesting in the philosophy of life, but I think I'll leave it at that. We exist in order to pursue meaning as we are doing in here, and came into existence from a sheer whim of circumstances.

I wouldn't say that our purpose is to search for our purpose. I do believe there is a purpose in life but what is more important in not the destination but the experiences and knowledge we get from the trip. So, there is a purpose but the search for it is what really matters!!!

Zebro-X
03-19-2009, 04:47 PM
humm i think the meaning of life has somthing to do with Chuck Norris.....

leshinor
03-19-2009, 04:51 PM
humm i think the meaning of life has somthing to do with Chuck Norris.....

Come on man! You didn't have to say that because it's so obvious! lol :hands: