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gnarcore
02-17-2009, 08:59 AM
Just the other day i saw some 10 year old kid grab the entire set of elfen lied asking his parents if they could buy it for him the entire time im thinking of his parents reactions when they walk in on what hes watching. The only reason he didnt get it was because he was short like 10 bucks and the store ( HMV ) would have sold it to him anyway it seems pointless to id for mature games or movies when they can just buy it at a store.
Waste
02-17-2009, 10:02 AM
"If its a cartoon it must be child friendly!"
bluraf
02-17-2009, 10:05 AM
ahhh....... that's how it is!!
leerock89
02-17-2009, 01:45 PM
Well some anime are NOT meant for children, Elfin Lief being one of them. Others are meant for children such as Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh. This is one of those things that is up to the parents really. The parents are the ones who have to know whats going on in their kids life and make sure to censure things that are inappropriate until they reach a certain age.
LadyHinata
02-17-2009, 01:59 PM
yeah but the only problem with that statement is that some of the parents just don't care what their kid/kids do or watch
leerock89
02-17-2009, 02:01 PM
Well then thats their thing. If they don't care then we can't make them care either.
LadyHinata
02-17-2009, 02:16 PM
unfortunatly true
danger
02-17-2009, 02:24 PM
Well some anime are NOT meant for children, Elfin Lief being one of them. Others are meant for children such as Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh. This is one of those things that is up to the parents really. The parents are the ones who have to know whats going on in their kids life and make sure to censure things that are inappropriate until they reach a certain age.
Like thats ever going to happen
Greatwhyte
02-17-2009, 02:28 PM
Yeah that is true but a lot of kids miss out on a lot of cool anime because of being over rated and some are under rated but come on you will never learn about them till you see them for yourself.:ramen::dancing::dance:::D::cute:
Koopaking
02-17-2009, 03:22 PM
Elfen Lied is a great anime. Oh, but it has "mature content" oh my - best not let the children see! I never quite understood the entire defense against children and mature content. Why isn't a child supposed to see certain things? You all know they will anyways. But what I never got is what's so bad about a kid watching nudity and violence, or to hear cursing? At this point the only reason seems to be because society has set up a useless status quo as to what is "family friendly". I say let the children watch the same things as the rest of us, and do away with the rating system - base everything on personal judgment and tastes. But I suppose society is not ready for Koopa's great reforms just yet.
Waste
02-17-2009, 04:16 PM
Elfen Lied is a great anime. Oh, but it has "mature content" oh my - best not let the children see! I never quite understood the entire defense against children and mature content. Why isn't a child supposed to see certain things? You all know they will anyways. But what I never got is what's so bad about a kid watching nudity and violence, or to hear cursing? At this point the only reason seems to be because society has set up a useless status quo as to what is "family friendly". I say let the children watch the same things as the rest of us, and do away with the rating system - base everything on personal judgment and tastes. But I suppose society is not ready for Koopa's great reforms just yet.
When hundreds of children across america become scared for life we know that koopa has come to power.
Ryuuzaki
02-17-2009, 05:48 PM
Actually, it's not just anime. A few years ago, I went into a video store, asked for Saturday Night Fever (Rated R, btw) got directed to where it was on the shelf, went back to the counter, paid, and left. I assure you, that if it's not a porno, anyone can go into a video store and buy anything they can, no matter what the rating on it is.
I'm going with Koopa on the why can't kids view "mature" content thing. It seems like total bullshit to me. Of course, even if we ourselves don't care for that rule, and let our kids (when we have them) view what would be considered mature content, that kid will be looked down on, as well as us, the parents. Him, for knowing things he shouldn't for his age, and sharing them, and the parents for letting the kid learn said things. Example: If your kid watched FMA (not really mature, but it still has plenty of swearing) and went to school the next day, said a few swear words he picked up in the show, he/she would be in trouble, or something because what they said was "indecent". Then of course, the parents would get a call and also have to go to the school and be yelled at for letting their kid learn such indecent words, then them themselves would be called indecent. Though, I bet you, that the ones who are scolding the kids, also swear in front of kids. Or talk about "indecent" things with kids around. Bullshit this is!
Koopaking
02-17-2009, 05:58 PM
I'm going with Koopa on the why can't kids view "mature" content thing. It seems like total bullshit to me. Of course, even if we ourselves don't care for that rule, and let our kids (when we have them) view what would be considered mature content, that kid will be looked down on, as well as us, the parents. Him, for knowing things he shouldn't for his age, and sharing them, and the parents for letting the kid learn said things. Example: If your kid watched FMA (not really mature, but it still has plenty of swearing) and went to school the next day, said a few swear words he picked up in the show, he/she would be in trouble, or something because what they said was "indecent". Then of course, the parents would get a call and also have to go to the school and be yelled at for letting their kid learn such indecent words, then them themselves would be called indecent. Though, I bet you, that the ones who are scolding the kids, also swear in front of kids. Or talk about "indecent" things with kids around. Bullshit this is!
Oh yes and even worse than that, what if the kid actually started relating the themes from the anime, like sacrificing in order to gain, or the meaning of being human,to his peers and teachers... CHILDREN SHOULDN'T BE THINKING SUCH DEEP THINGS!!! He would be branded a delinquent!
lee matsu
02-17-2009, 06:30 PM
...yeh by the age of 6 i knew bout sex an babies at the age of 4 i caught my uncle dressing up as santa clause so i say fuck beating around the bush an let the damn 10 yr old watch some good anime ....
leerock89
02-17-2009, 06:31 PM
Oh yes and even worse than that, what if the kid actually started relating the themes from the anime, like sacrificing in order to gain, or the meaning of being human,to his peers and teachers... CHILDREN SHOULDN'T BE THINKING SUCH DEEP THINGS!!! He would be branded a delinquent!
I'm not sure thats the main concern here. Granted their brains will still digest that type of information but the concern is the immediate effect, the point ryuu was making. The kid could learn the real meaning of life and all that good deep stuff from anime, but it won't take effect for many years and in the mean time the kid might think killing cussing and doing bad things are fun.
Once again, though, this is all on the parents. They would know what is best for their child even if people don't agree with them.
Silverleon
02-17-2009, 09:17 PM
Keep in mind that at an early age the mind is more "moldable" by which i mean that the kids don't know much about good/bad and they're more prone to imitate things they see. And some kids have been traumatized for seeing explizit images at such young age when the mind isn't ready for such. BUT it also depends on the kid, some are more mature than others and can understand things better. For what i've seen, the more matiure and prone to be able to handle those kinds of stuff are the ones that aren't overprotected from the truth, i'm not saying to show a 6yr. old all that stuff at once, but if they ask about certain themes that might seem "untouchable" and the parent always avoids a direct or truthfull answer and are always protected are more prone to be more gullible and prone to suffer consequences for that kind of material, (ran out of space)
...than the ones who's parents know they will learn it either by suddendly seeing it or by them explaining it in a way for them to understand it, which are the kids to be more prone to undestand things and can handle explicit material better.
So in other words, the product isn't the problem in most cases, but the person who's exposed to it.
analogZero
02-18-2009, 01:33 AM
I was watching the TMNT movie the other day. It's been a god aweful amount of years since I saw that movie. Likely the last time was when I was a pipsqueek. It brought back a lot of memories of childhood and more so, it brought to light how I took in media during my early years. When I was a junior, my friends and I would pick up sticks, manufacture nunchucks with some rope and bits of tree and have a good ol' time running around playing ninja turtles. That was about the bulk of what we took away from it. Be a good guy and kick some shell. There's limits to what a child's going to understand, and the intelligible surface of anything they take in is what's going to cause the most effect. Granted there may be some things that seep into their subconscious and they'll take away something that they'll likely take for granted and not know for sure where they learned it from.
The problem is kids are dumb and they don't see past that intelligible surface, the basic tits and blood and killing for the heck of it that dominates the first impression of elfen lied. There's more to be had, of course. It has it's depth and it has it's story and themes, but do you think a child so distracted by the world around him that he picks things up all slapdash after seeing cool pictures, or because his friends told him there's tits and gore in it, that he's actually going to analyse what he/she's watching? Kudos to the kid if so, but honestly if the parents are fronting the cash for it, then they ought to know what they're blowing their money away on. Then again this is all coming from somebody who isn't going to be paying for anything related to elfen lied any time in his future.
gnarcore
02-18-2009, 10:17 AM
movie stores like blockbuster and some rogersvideo depending on where you go will id to rent mature games. ive seen gets get shafted trying to rent games like fallout 3 and gears 2 i ussually say im with the kid and they let them rent it. It seems only recently this has come to pass i remember i bought resident evil 3 when i was 13 or 14 from the local zellers with out my mom and it seems like you cant even trade in used games unless your 17 with goverment issued id
Kira_
02-19-2009, 06:48 AM
My sister is 11, and she watches anime.
Not a lot, but some.
And there has been nudity and curse words in some of the anime she watches and she knows not to repeat that to adults at school.
Basically, since she was taught what society lables as "wrong and right", she understands what people would do if she did that.
I think if the parents let their children watch that, then the parents must think their child is mature enough, or responsible enough to watch it.
If a parent doesnt, then they are those kind of parents who just doesnt care what happens to their kid anyways.
Baby Naruto
02-19-2009, 07:56 AM
I say that kids should be able to watch any anime, as long as it doesn't have ecchi, yuri, yaoi, hentai, harem, murder, sexual, or anything else like that in it.
I believe this fully, and I was brought up on this too.
jyuukai
02-19-2009, 01:50 PM
Yeah that is true but a lot of kids miss out on a lot of cool anime because of being over rated and some are under rated but come on you will never learn about them till you see them for yourself.:ramen::dancing::dance:::D::cute:
I've never seen an underrated or overrated anime in my time. Then again I haven't seen Elfen Lied as yet
Ryudo
02-19-2009, 10:38 PM
Elfen Lied is a great anime. Oh, but it has "mature content" oh my - best not let the children see! I never quite understood the entire defense against children and mature content. Why isn't a child supposed to see certain things? You all know they will anyways. But what I never got is what's so bad about a kid watching nudity and violence, or to hear cursing? At this point the only reason seems to be because society has set up a useless status quo as to what is "family friendly". I say let the children watch the same things as the rest of us, and do away with the rating system - base everything on personal judgment and tastes. But I suppose society is not ready for Koopa's great reforms just yet.
Amen Reverand lol
partyprobe
02-19-2009, 10:46 PM
I think all children need to watch anime b/c there imagination will never dry up.
Ryuuzaki
02-19-2009, 10:53 PM
I say that kids should be able to watch any anime, as long as it doesn't have ecchi, yuri, yaoi, hentai, harem, murder, sexual, or anything else like that in it.
I believe this fully, and I was brought up on this too.
Why can't they watch ecchi, yuri, yaoi, hentai, etc etc? Why can't they be free to watch whatever they want to watch. It's not like they're never going to see it. Hell, when I was a wee lad, I was able to watch anything I could find (when given the chance). To me, it seems that the reason people don't want kids to watch whatever they want, is because it makes them look bad. Or they're afraid they'll be brought up in a bad way. It all leads to other people -- not the kids. Whether it be parents, Grandparents, brothers, sisters, whatever, it all leads to them looking bad.
Sadrith
02-20-2009, 12:32 AM
Hog wash I say my parents where catious but alowed me to watch almost what ever my first anime infact was Fatal Fury the motion picture, then when I was 9 I remeber watching Vampire Hunter D. There are somethings that I think you should watch out for as people have said its up to the parents I heard a lot of bad things from my parents particularly the colorful explotives. After pre school where i yelled Fuck as loud as I could I never remeber having a lapse so it is just a trust thing. If you can handle it then they should allow people to watch whatever its those few insedenses where people do something bad and they make these bad expectations making the need for a raiting system I hope this all makes sense.
xXWENWENXx
02-20-2009, 10:39 AM
I know teens that reads kid manga. It pisses me off.
So i guess is a problem that kids read teen manga as well.
JR-15
02-20-2009, 03:25 PM
its the fact that kids don't know restraint and will try to imitate what they see because they think it looks cool then they do some stupid shit out in public and the people will plame the anime and that is how stiffer laws on mature content
Dark_Angel
02-20-2009, 05:27 PM
I think kids should watch anime according to the ratings. Stuff like Elfen lief shouldn't be given to minors. Mature content is not for them.
shadowmaks
02-21-2009, 05:31 PM
I think that maturity rating only go so far. I saw Fatal Fury the movie when I was what 6-7. I remember bringing it to kindergarden and watching it there with everyone else. The first mature game I can remeber playing was Castlevania 64 at 6. Slash that, Robocop vs Terminator when I was 4, there was a lot a blood for a sega game. I came out okay. I'm not saying it doesn't effect kids completely, but for me for example, I think that was why I became more mature than the others. Elfen Lied was the first anime I saw online and that was almost 3-4 years ago when I was like 10-11. It is still my #1 favorite anime not because of the gore and nudity, but because of the story and kinda the music.
analogZero
02-21-2009, 08:04 PM
Why can't they watch ecchi, yuri, yaoi, hentai, etc etc? Why can't they be free to watch whatever they want to watch. It's not like they're never going to see it. Hell, when I was a wee lad, I was able to watch anything I could find (when given the chance). To me, it seems that the reason people don't want kids to watch whatever they want, is because it makes them look bad. Or they're afraid they'll be brought up in a bad way. It all leads to other people -- not the kids. Whether it be parents, Grandparents, brothers, sisters, whatever, it all leads to them looking bad.
good call, the societal impact of having the odd kid out can be a bit troublesome for some parents. From a playground perspective, you may be the cool kid who saw anime boobs, but from the parents' end, they have the kid who's 'influencing' (whether directly or indirectly it will be viewed as direct by other parents, because let's face it, somebody needs to be blamed for everything in life) the other kids around him. Nobody wants a black sheep in their flock.
Neophoenix
03-06-2009, 08:58 PM
whoa wait I am 12 and I watch a whole lot of anime like that my mom say if I don't repeat curse words and she she thinks I am mature enough to see that and not go ewww or anything like that whats the big thing bad here.
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