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Ariya
02-23-2008, 12:59 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23229795

So it's a few days late, oh well.

M opinion, I doubt much is going to change, really. It's Castro's brother, and this guy has been in charge for what... two years now? And there's a law saying that Cuba can't trade with the US while both of the Castro brothers are alive. It's something like that. xD I'm not quite sure what the details are, but it's something that will ensure that not much will change.

Thoughts? Opinions? Discuss.

Gabe
02-23-2008, 01:25 AM
finally... oh and did u know that he has no (don't know wat this is in english how to spell this in english) ano thats a fact:)

leerock89
02-23-2008, 01:46 AM
uummm. wats an ano?? LONG LIVE COMMUNIST RULE!!!

Ariya
02-23-2008, 01:46 AM
@Gabe: I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're trying to say...Maybe try rewording your post?

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In the words of The Who "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

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@leerock89:
//LONG LIVE COMMUNIST RULE//

Seriously? Communism sucks, in my opinion. It's not going to work forever. What bothers me the most is that no matter how hard you work, you still going to get paid as much as the person who has the same job as you. For example, I could be the "Star Worker" at my job, but I'm going to be making as much money as that slacker over there in the corner drinking coffee the whole day. Now that just doesn't seem fair to me.

Crymson
02-23-2008, 02:19 AM
@leerock89:
//LONG LIVE COMMUNIST RULE//

Seriously? Communism sucks, in my opinion. It's not going to work forever. What bothers me the most is that no matter how hard you work, you still going to get paid as much as the person who has the same job as you. For example, I could be the "Star Worker" at my job, but I'm going to be making as much money as that slacker over there in the corner drinking coffee the whole day. Now that just doesn't seem fair to me.

For the sake of argument: the upside of communism that is properly run (granted, we haven't seen it since Vladimir Lenin died), is that corporations don't ship jobs overseas, operate sweat shops in foreign countries, or step on workers rights.

further, your argument doesn't take into account that communism doesn't guarantee a job, what I mean by that is that a communist country can fire people. so that lazy guy who drinks coffee all day gets fired from his job, and he has to pay for all the coffee that he stole.

And of course, capitalism has it's own set of problems

Ariya
02-23-2008, 02:28 AM
For the sake of argument: the upside of communism that is properly run (granted, we haven't seen it since Vladimir Lenin died), is that corporations don't ship jobs overseas, operate sweat shops in foreign countries, or step on workers rights.

further, your argument doesn't take into account that communism doesn't guarantee a job, what I mean by that is that a communist country can fire people. so that lazy guy who drinks coffee all day gets fired from his job, and he has to pay for all the coffee that he stole.

And of course, capitalism has it's own set of problems

I'm not exactly happy with Capitalism, but I don't think anyone will be truly happy with their government. Okay, so maybe I'm getting the wrong image from my History teacher. She says Lenin was an evil guy, yet you say he was a good guy. So which was he?

Even though I don't like communism, I would take it over socialism, which Hillary Clinton wishes to bring us if she becomes president. Oh lord, somebody kidnap me and take me to a different country if she does.

Ahem. We're getting a bit off-topic here. It's my fault completely. I apologize.

No back to Castro...

It's good to see him resign, but like I said before the other Castro is the same. So I guess Cuba's not really gaining much. :/

Crymson
02-23-2008, 02:34 AM
I'm not exactly happy with Capitalism, but I don't think anyone will be truly happy with their government. Okay, so maybe I'm getting the wrong image from my History teacher. She says Lenin was an evil guy, yet you say he was a good guy. So which was he?

Even though I don't like communism, I would take it over socialism, which Hillary Clinton wishes to bring us if she becomes president. Oh lord, somebody kidnap me and take me to a different country if she does.

Ahem. We're getting a bit off-topic here. It's my fault completely. I apologize.

No back to Castro...

It's good to see him resign, but like I said before the other Castro is the same. So I guess Cuba's not really gaining much. :/

To be finished with Lenin. take a look at what the Czars did before the communist revolution, then look at what he did for the common people. He may not be a saint, but he was a h*ll of a lot better than what they had before. And remember, if you live in a western country (North America, Western Europe, Australia, etc) then Communists are the bad guys from our golden age.

Looked at Obama? He's even more liberal than Clinton is.

anyway, It's true that nothing will change in Cuba for now. When both of the Castro's are gone it will be interesting to see what happens. I doubt the US will get involved again, not after the bay of pigs massacre, but you never know.

Ariya
02-23-2008, 02:43 AM
anyway, It's true that nothing will change in Cuba for now. When both of the Castro's are gone it will be interesting to see what happens. I doubt the US will get involved again, not after the bay of pigs massacre, but you never know.

There's actually a law that the U.S. can't trade with Cuba while the Castro's are in office. That really hurts them, but we don't care. Also, we aren't allowed to go to Cuba. However, we still do. We Americans are so bad, flying to Mexico, and then flying to Cuba. I personally wouldn't want to go to Cuba as long as a Castro is in charge. Just look at what happened during the Cold War. We don't need anymore trouble from Cuba.

//Looked at Obama? He's even more Liberal that Clinton.//

Oh gosh. You don't understand what will happen if Clinton wins office. America will be doomed. Never will we be ready for her. Never.

And Obama? He's better than Hillary, I can tell you that. At least he knows what he's doing.

Personally, I have no idea who to vote for this year. Nor do my parents. In fact, I do believe I remember my Dad saying he wasn't going to vote at all this year. We liked Fred Thompson, but sadly, he dropped out of the race.

leerock89
02-23-2008, 02:48 AM
And Lenin wasnt the bad guy here, Stalin was. That mother fucker killed millions of his own people for his own purposes turning U.S.S.R. into the country that everyone hated. And it was one paraniod senater during the 50's that turned communism into the devil's idea.

At any rate I believe that communism combined with democracy would be one hell of an idea.

Cuba shouldnt change much, but I wonder if its economy is going to boom when the Castros' are dead.

Ariya
02-23-2008, 02:53 AM
And Lenin wasnt the bad guy here, Stalin was. That mother fucker killed millions of his own people for his own purposes turning U.S.S.R. into the country that everyone hated. And it was one paraniod senater during the 50's that turned communism into the devil's idea.

Oh, I see. I had a little mix-up between the two. My bad. I'll pay better attention in class.

//At any rate I believe that communism combined with democracy would be one hell of an idea.//

That actually doesn't sound half bad. In fact, that's a pretty good idea. Both governments would keep their pros, while getting rid of their cons. :]

//Cuba shouldnt change much, but I wonder if its economy is going to boom when the Castros' are dead.//

Well yeah it's gonna sky rocket. The embargo on Cuba will most likely be taken away, so Cuba can trade with the U.S. again. The future beholds many great things for Cuba.

leerock89
02-23-2008, 03:19 AM
My friend and I were talking about Obama today. Basically if he got voted president then two years later he was assassinated wat would happen in the ghettos arcoss America, the size and control of the police force to respond to it, and who would be benefiting from Obama's death and the resulting chaos. I threw out there that after a 100 years the african americans would be inslaved again along with any other non-white race and turn into a socialist imperialist state.

Ariya
02-23-2008, 03:39 AM
@leerock89: Getting a bit off-topic. Back to Castro and Cuba. :]

Does anyone think the new Castro will be any different that Fidel? I personally don't.

leerock89
02-23-2008, 03:42 AM
Probably not. I guess it depends on how much of a bigot the brother is.

Crymson
02-23-2008, 05:49 AM
He's been running the country for the last how many years unofficially? And what is different from what happened when Fidel was running the country? I thought so.

Ariya
02-23-2008, 01:05 PM
I believe he ran the country for two years, not sure exactly. You have to keep in mind, though, that Fidel was still in office, so he could only do what Fidel would like. Now that he'll be a totalitarian, things might change with the way he runs Cuba. Who knows, he could turn out to be like Fidel, or he could be a pretty good leader. Personally, I think he's just like Fidel. :/