What is America's true form of government?

[Zaraki]

One of my uncles sent this to me it's interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7M-7LkvcVw

[strike7785]

To get into everyone elses issues. Im an American and it sad that Im admitting this

[analogZero]

for it's straight forwardness, that video is actually something I'd encourage people to watch. The US government in particular is masked and twisted by so many forms of government that it's easily coming to the point of being something completely different from what it originally was. It's even amazing that as the US follows the same path as did the Romans, they can't help themselves but to continue on toward inevitability.

[SmokedBoo]

When the Constitution was written it was power to the people, for the people, and of the people. Now? The Constitution has been burned, only to become a dream that should not have been forgotten. We were born a republic, but are now a democracy. People should not trust the government, no matter how appealing there side of the story really is. I hope I get labeled a terrorist for my views. It would make life for me better.

[acelomado]

The same as Licon form....
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[atomsk]

the problem is people who expect the government to make life easy.they think that this higher power will make their lives flawless. we depend to much on the government. the united states fedral government was not supposed to have this much power over the people. that was for the smaller state governments. and then theres religion. religion is not supposed to have anything to do with the U.S. government on any level, yet people expect it to solve their problems and make things easy for them

its the people that is wrong with america.

edit: i really didnt answer the question that well.
the us is a democracy. and at the current state of the people thats a problem

[SmokedBoo]

the problem is people who expect the government to make life easy.they think that this higher power will make their lives flawless. we depend to much on the government. the united states fedral government was not supposed to have this much power over the people. that was for the smaller state governments. and then theres religion. religion is not supposed to have anything to do with the U.S. government on any level, yet people expect it to solve their problems and make things easy for them

its the people that is wrong with america.

edit: i really didnt answer the question that well.
the us is a democracy. and at the current state of the people thats a problem

You're right, they do depend upon the government too much. My mother can be an example but not a really good one. She was getting paid around $300 every 2 weeks at the job we work at. But the way gas prices were going half of that money went towards gas. To save money we got rid of a lot of stuff we thought were maybe taking money away (WoW, GameTap, cable T.V.) little by little. IRS wouldn't let her gain food stamps because she made $300. The IRS doesn't even count gas as a "necessity". My mom had to quit, and was sorry to say that it paid better to sit on her ass and do nothing and let the government take care of us.

Nobody can do anything else themselves anymore, and the government today makes it that way. People really don't have a choice in the matter.

[analogZero]

It is troublesome when people are more afraid of their government than the government of their people. You can see rather strict contrasts in places like France where the government is weary of doing anything that might cause severe protests and reaction from the populace. One of the greatest problems is that a western life is made all too easy with all too many distractions from what it's government is doing. With no motivation to act on their governing rulers the people lose their freedom to live as they please rather than to live as something else dictates.

[wi_sam]

um ...... a pickle ?

[bluedragon]

well to me goverment just put their noses on other country business.....all war stuff is wat make prices to go up and end up hurting the economy.

[Zaraki]

well to me goverment just put their noses on other country business.....all war stuff is wat make prices to go up and end up hurting the economy.

not entirely true. if you remember studying about WW1 that war helped us get out of the depression b/c it created jobs thus helping the economy for a short period of time.

[Wonnetz]

new york islike hell for me.all those maggots running around with no lives.......the true form of goverment is power.with power u can make people fall to ur knees.

[bluedragon]

originally posted by zaraki
not entirely true. if you remember studying about WW1 that war helped us get out of the depression b/c it created jobs thus helping the economy for a short period of time.


ur right on that but back then there were not many ppl plus stuff were cheaper back then and war opened up new doors for job.........now everything is way up and our salary is to low to maintain a family.

[Jellee]

I kinda agree with the video, but it would be hard to see how a republic can ever truly stay as a republic. When the majority is happy, they will always turn a blind eye to changes in government, if the greedy elite behind it are careful enough about how they present it. Before people can say anything about it, the transition is made (does anyone know the moment the republic of the USA became a democracy?) and the cycle continues. It's always a cycle as well. Oligarchy -> Anarchy -> Democracy -> Oligarchy.

[lee matsu]

"white folks" who kill Color folks an ban them form there own lands and than set GOAL/LAWS/RELIGION on tribe men or DIE!!!!!!!!! we got nukes!!!!!!!!! wait so do asians an ..."damn us color folks aint got shits" ....

[Silverleon]

The current govt. is just some F'd up mutation of what it was originally meant to be. Where it may seem like it is, but at a closer look you can see it isn't what it they said it is at all.

[strike7785]

what govt. Its all politics one person talking about how to control each persons lives to make them feel better. Its all lies I tell you LIES

[Silverleon]

[U]what govt.[U] Its all politics one person talking about how to control each persons lives to make them feel better. Its all lies I tell you LIES

The way to abrebiate government if i'm not mistaking

[jamjfly]

I quite enjoyed that video. It was as truthful as it gets.

[brawler]

It's kind of interesting, how the government was actually set up to run perfectly by the Constitution, with helpful little pieces of advice *cough* Washington's Farewell Address *cough* to point the people in the right direction. Yet, situations such as the elastic clause and the nullification crisis during Andrew Jackson's presidency shows that the Constitution wasn't build perfectly, just decently enough to complete the mission as a guiding tool for democracy. Yet, this presumes that the world is perfect, and it's not; since three main problems exist in the human mind:

1.) avarice
2.) assumption
and 3.) overexertion.

Let me explain each: for the first one, the avarice of the American industries during the age of imperialism achieve us destroying a portion of our credibility and made us seems like hypocrites by taking over the Phillipines and forcing our "superior" culture on them (kind of similar to the relation we had with Britain before the Revolutionary War). For the second, we followed this scheme, similar to the what we're doing by following the obviously flawed to the point of being almost useless Stimulus package (that's a rant for another thread though), assuming that everything will go alright. Yes, everything did go alright, seeing as we entered WWI because of the plethora of treaties that we signed to protect our newly acquired territories, doh. And for the third, kind of a mixture of the previous two.

Now, what did this seemingly useless and irrevelant expatiation have anything to do with the true form of the American government? The true form of government isn't in the hands of the people, it is in the hands of those who manipulate these three flaws and use them to their advantage to achieve their ends at the expense of the people. Using the guise of foreign affairs which we were unwise to find ourselves in and economic situations that were easily preventable, they achieve the greatest levels of government to push their semi-socialist agendas down the American public's throats. Thus, because of the assumption of much of the American public that the government's there to baby-sit them, thus overexterting their rights, trashing the Constitution to falsely satisfy the insatiable avarice of human-kind, has completely closed off the idealistic form of government, thus showing a true face of what most democracies become. A pit full of avarice, corruption, and the few good souls still struggling to fulfill their campaign promises with minuscule success.

Sorry if this rant in the guise of an essay bored you, angered you, made you upset, and/or confused as hell. Also, if this was too long a post for this forum, please tell me, as this is my first post.... so don't be too hard on me alright? Also, one last thing, please tell me if you think my theory's a load of BS and you're able to easily refute it (aka with most accurate facts). As this is the only way that one can truly educate themselves in my opinion. Thanks again, and I'll be posting more crummy rantathons in the future....

[Dolly]

I smell dramatization.

[analogZero]

interesting brawler. I'll say as much as that so I don't get long winded myself. But as for your final paragraph, I've seen longer posts, and I've read longer posts...I've probably written longer posts too. Don't worry too much on being wordy, but take into account that a good handful of people here see long posts and just skip it or read a small portion. that being said, post away!

[Gin X]

I think that ur contry needes change and i think it's gonna happen even if people like it or not

[Zaraki]

I think that ur contry needes change and i think it's gonna happen even if people like it or not

already is.

[Mahlerian]

An oligarchy! Face it, that's what the whole world is turning into, globalization is going to make everyone a slave to the people that control the money. That, or I'm paranoid.